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scott11106 11/11/2017 07:29 PM
NEW 400 gallon in wall build NC
 
Hello all,

I started a thread in the "new to hobby" section but figured this would be a better place to start the full build thread. I will post some of the original drawings ect and then start the current build information.

A bit of background, I had a 90 gallon salt water reef tank many years ago and cut my teeth on that with the only automation being a couple timers and a few float valves so everything was done manual.

this time i am building a 400 gallon 7'x3'x2' tall built in tank with a full fish room behind it (14'x8').

Please let me know if anyone has any ideas or suggestions as i am going to be new to hobby again and alot has changed in the 15 years that i have been away......

scott11106 11/11/2017 07:37 PM
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here are the drawings, there are some small changes but i will make edits and upload them soon

asonitez 11/11/2017 07:46 PM
What part of NC any equipment choices yet?


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scott11106 11/11/2017 07:47 PM
here is a list of the equipment i am planning on getting:

CUSTOM TANK AND METAL STAND PLANET AQUARIUM - GLASS starfire 7'x3'x2'
REEF OCTOPUS - VARIOS-8 CONTROLLABLE DC CIRCULATION (2)
EcoTech Marine VorTech MP10wQD Propeller Pumps (2x) + Battery
ECOTECH MARINE VORTECH MP60W-ES W/WIRELESS WAVE (2)
Kessil AP700 (3)
TRIGGER EMERALD SUMP 39" X 16"
SPECTRAPURE MAXCAP UHE 100 GPD RO/DI SYSTEM
Neptune Systems APEX WiFi Controller System
WIRELESS EXPANSION MODULE/VORTECH COMPATIBLE
NEPTUNE SYSTEMS FLUID MONITORING KIT (FMM, (2) FS-50, (4)
NEPTUNE APEX AUTOMATIC TOP-OFF KIT
NEPTUNE SYSTEMS APEX AUTOMATIC FEEDING SYSTEM (AFS)
NEPTUNE SYSTEMS LEAK DETECTION KIT (FMM, (2) LD-2)

scott11106 11/11/2017 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by asonitez (Post 25271041)
What part of NC any equipment choices yet?


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i live south of Asheville NC (actually i live north of greenville SC right now ) but building a home and new fish room in NC. house will be done in february

OurCoralReef 11/11/2017 08:02 PM
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So a tank in the bedroom hmmmm [emoji848]

dcmartinpc 11/11/2017 08:15 PM
I would seriously consider upgrading those MP10wQD to MP40wQD assuming they are for the back of the tank. My tank is 5x3x2 and I run 2 60s, 1 on each end and 2 40s on the back. Also, the glass will likely be at least 1/2” thick and I haven’t had great luck getting 10s to stick with 1/2”.

Don


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scott11106 11/11/2017 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OurCoralReef (Post 25271058)
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So a tank in the bedroom hmmmm [emoji848]
it is actually in the living room and the door to the fish room is off the hallway to the bedroom.

i am going to have the walls insulated and plywood under the sheetrock for sound and for mounting abilities.

also there is going to be a exhaust fan in the fish room to remove any odor and humidity.

OurCoralReef 11/11/2017 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scott11106 (Post 25271095)
it is actually in the living room and the door to the fish room is off the hallway to the bedroom.



i am going to have the walls insulated and plywood under the sheetrock for sound and for mounting abilities.



also there is going to be a exhaust fan in the fish room to remove any odor and humidity.


Ohh ok
Very nice looking forward to the build

ca1ore 11/11/2017 10:36 PM
Those dimensions more like 300 gallons.

scott11106 11/12/2017 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ca1ore (Post 25271193)
Those dimensions more like 300 gallons.


Lol, you are correct, boy do I feel dumb. I was reading another thread and decided to start this one. Also I was going to build s 400 but the jump between 300 and 400 gallon was significant so I decided to drop down to 300 gallons.


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Ncfishguy 11/12/2017 07:34 AM
Cool I'm in n.c also

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ca1ore 11/12/2017 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by scott11106 (Post 25271339)
Lol, you are correct, boy do I feel dumb. I was reading another thread and decided to start this one. Also I was going to build s 400 but the jump between 300 and 400 gallon was significant so I decided to drop down to 300 gallons.


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Haha, don't. Done the same thing myself many times. Now I always just do the math :lol: either way, it'll be a kickin tank.

10Seconds 11/12/2017 09:30 PM
300 is still huge. I just did my 220 build and thought that was huge!

vitodog 11/13/2017 08:18 AM
Where are you planning to use those MP10's? If you are going to use them on the D/T, your glass may be too thick for the MP10.

scott11106 11/13/2017 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by vitodog (Post 25272435)
Where are you planning to use those MP10's? If you are going to use them on the D/T, your glass may be too thick for the MP10.
i was planning to use them for the display but i was thinking of going a different route and use varioS pumps and drill the tank.this way i would not need any powerheads and it works with the Apex system.

what do you all think of this idea?

Unicorn2093 11/14/2017 03:34 PM
Looking forward to follow your thread ��

scott11106 11/14/2017 05:38 PM
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here are some pics of the house under construction (fish room)
4212 and 4204 are viewing from living room to tank/fish room, 4208 is from inside fish room looking to living room....we are officially dried in as of today, shingles go on thursday.

we are on our way.....

Unicorn2093 11/14/2017 05:43 PM
Yaay, exciting.
Keep those updates coming!

JaySchulz 11/14/2017 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scott11106 (Post 25273188)
i was planning to use them for the display but i was thinking of going a different route and use varioS pumps and drill the tank.this way i would not need any powerheads and it works with the Apex system.

what do you all think of this idea?
I think it really depends on what type of livestock you are planning on. If you are planning on keeping SPS then I don’t feel this would be sufficient. You’ll need atleast 30x gph of water flow. You might even limit some fish you should probably keep. A lot of tangs live in surge zones and require extreme flow. If you’re planning FOWLR (with compatible fish) then that would probably be okay. Also, I’m not sure why you are trying to abandon power heads. Your tank is an in wall and you won’t see the dry end of the vortechs.

Lastly, I’d reconsider your sump. I don’t think that trigger sump will be big enough. You will have a hard time fitting the right sized equipment that’s needed for a tank your size. More importantly, the sump might not be big enough to support the amount of water that back flows when you turn off your pumps for maintance. That to me is a flood waiting to happen.

I look forward to more pictures and following along.

scott11106 11/15/2017 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JaySchulz (Post 25274188)
I think it really depends on what type of livestock you are planning on. If you are planning on keeping SPS then I don’t feel this would be sufficient. You’ll need atleast 30x gph of water flow. You might even limit some fish you should probably keep. A lot of tangs live in surge zones and require extreme flow. If you’re planning FOWLR (with compatible fish) then that would probably be okay. Also, I’m not sure why you are trying to abandon power heads. Your tank is an in wall and you won’t see the dry end of the vortechs.



Lastly, I’d reconsider your sump. I don’t think that trigger sump will be big enough. You will have a hard time fitting the right sized equipment that’s needed for a tank your size. More importantly, the sump might not be big enough to support the amount of water that back flows when you turn off your pumps for maintance. That to me is a flood waiting to happen.



I look forward to more pictures and following along.


I will look into that, does anyone have ideas on heat/air as I need to let ac guy know what to do pretty soon here, not sure if I should integrate it into the house central heat and air or spend the money to have a small stand also be unit in the room


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sjaz 11/17/2017 09:17 AM
I had a central air duct put into my tank room. Makes it nicer to work in a climate controlled tank room. Also had an exhaust fan (bathroom type) put in to help pull humidity out. Still need a chiller to control tank temp in Houston, TX.


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