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Old 11/03/2009, 07:49 PM   #76
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this is sad!


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Old 11/03/2009, 07:52 PM   #77
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Sad, yes but I bet most of us have had to confront the issue at some point.


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Old 11/03/2009, 09:07 PM   #78
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How can hammer not be the best ?


it takes a split second.


bam on the head and its no more.
It's because they don't really want to pony up to the fact that they are killing something.

IMO, the fastest method possible is best for the animal. If you are going to do the deed then own up to it and do it fast. All of this anesthetic crap is just a way for you to try and not feel guilty about doing it.


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Old 11/03/2009, 09:26 PM   #79
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put it in your mouth and chew.


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Old 11/03/2009, 09:47 PM   #80
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I've never had to do it; I have a 15 year old dog that is really starting to slow down; cannot walk up the stairs, having accidents in the house, etc......its just hard to think about! Fish, dogs, cats, whatever it is...this is never easy. I personally think anything quick is the best...but the hammer sounds a little scary for me....not sure if I could man up to it....


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Old 11/03/2009, 11:30 PM   #81
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Dude, don't hammer your dogs head


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Old 11/04/2009, 12:30 AM   #82
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Dude, don't hammer your dogs head
LOL; you know what I mean!!!


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Old 11/04/2009, 09:28 AM   #83
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Old 11/04/2009, 01:56 PM   #84
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Dude, don't hammer your dogs head
That is funny!


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Old 11/13/2009, 02:56 PM   #85
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This is something everyone has to do sooner or later and should of course be done as humanely as possible.

The best way is to cut through the brain or upper spine (directly behind the eye) severing the head. This is the method recommended by the American Veterinarian Association and obviously makes the most sense.

it results in an instantaneous loss of consciousness. There may be reflex movements in the body, but the fish is already unconscious. Just make sure the knife is sharp, big enough, and well-positioned before making the cut.

Anesthetics would do the job but are not available. Clove Oil etc. are not reliable. Freezing causes pain and is slow (fish have cold (pain) receptors). The idea that the severed head continues to feel pain makes no sense, because the brain is destroyed and the fish is unconscious.


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Old 11/13/2009, 03:28 PM   #86
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technically it is not poison but anesthesia.

are you from the Jeffery Dalmer school of euthanasia? is that how you would want to go over an anesthetic?

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Old 11/13/2009, 04:21 PM   #87
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This is something everyone has to do sooner or later and should of course be done as humanely as possible.

The best way is to cut through the brain or upper spine (directly behind the eye) severing the head. This is the method recommended by the American Veterinarian Association and obviously makes the most sense.

it results in an instantaneous loss of consciousness. There may be reflex movements in the body, but the fish is already unconscious. Just make sure the knife is sharp, big enough, and well-positioned before making the cut.

Anesthetics would do the job but are not available. Clove Oil etc. are not reliable. Freezing causes pain and is slow (fish have cold (pain) receptors). The idea that the severed head continues to feel pain makes no sense, because the brain is destroyed and the fish is unconscious.
I second this motion and move to have it written into law.....


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Old 11/14/2009, 12:30 PM   #88
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Anesthetics would do the job but are not available.
Fish anesthetics are indeed readily available from several mail order places, both hobby suppliers and aquaculture suppliers. While I might order MS-222 in 1kg jars, it is also available in small hobby sized quantities as well


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