New Deodronephthya sp. study group? - Page 29

aninjaatemyshoe · 03/03/2008, 10:24 PM

I have this exact coral. It has been doing ok for me, hasn't exactly exploded in growth, but hasn't declined either. It has the exact same habits as the purple "Neospongodes" that I got from Erik.

Genetics · 02/13/2009, 12:37 PM

Any updates?

Moser · 02/15/2009, 07:33 AM

Does anyone have update pics on this tank?.
http://www.cpfarm.com/

I'm not sure how long it's been running, but this is the only pic I have seen of it. The Dendro's seem to be doing well though.....

Mo

Kreeger1 · 02/15/2009, 09:14 AM

i believe that was a staged photo, not a setup tank for any period of time. Beautiful but just done for photo opt.

graveyardworm · 02/15/2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kreeger1
i believe that was a staged photo, not a setup tank for any period of time. Beautiful but just done for photo opt.

I'm going to agree, I believe it was just set up for an exhibition or something if I remember correctly. There was a lot of discussion about it awhile back.

muzzler · 03/02/2009, 03:00 PM

hello!!!

please tell me Chuck use alive Rotifers and phytoplancton or not?

Kreeger1 · 03/02/2009, 05:02 PM

He uses Reed's products, Shell fish diet and Roti feast. His tank is no longer. He's starting a small 30 gal tank to see if he can reproduce his results small scale.

slapshot · 10/31/2009, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreeger1

He uses Reed's products, Shell fish diet and Roti feast. His tank is no longer. He's starting a small 30 gal tank to see if he can reproduce his results small scale.

Just dug this up again. Could someone please report on the demise? The failure is just as important as the success from a learning perspective.

aninjaatemyshoe · 10/31/2009, 11:07 AM

It wasn't a failure in the sense that Chuck's methods didn't work. He was having great results with dendronephthya. He just had a major power outage that winter that killed his tank.

CLINTOS · 10/31/2009, 04:53 PM

Anyone try a algae turf scrubber along with a refuge so large amount's of food can be dosed/grown while exporting inorganics and keeping the food inside?

herring_fish · 10/31/2009, 10:51 PM

Yes I have an ATS and a refugium. I don't run anythink else.

I have a 130 gallon main tank and 55 gallon sump/refugium that is fill to the brim with a special coral rubble from Caribsea. It is very porus but unfortunatly it is not offered for sale to the public.

I use a dump bucket style Algal Turf Scrubber (ATS). You can see is running on Youtube using these links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRoKX8AjEbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARl3jzpVd0g
There were taken right after is was installed.
By the way, I raised it up until the splash was strong enough for my liking, which is purly cosmetic and not for the health of the tank. I like the look and the soothing sound of the splash, which is quieter with the cabinet doors closed.
You can also see my website with some old articles on my last project and some rendering on that project and my new one, by clicking on this: http://asaherring.com

I started my tank about 10 months ago and I have been biulding up the feeding regement slowly as I work up the filter feeding higherarchy. I wanted to feed heavily and not have the food skimmed out right away. Instead, I wanted to food to circulate as long as possible. That is why I pulled out my old dump bucket that I used for about 10 years without an refugium and re-used it.
I have lots of feather dusters and am starting to find sponges growning on a few of the rocks. I also have a couple of gargonions as well. Dendros are next on my list but I didn't want to simply let them wast away until I was ready. Now I am.

I have worked up on the feeding, using lots of powders and other things but I have a mixed use tank that also includes SPS and LPS as well so I have high light levels and am keeping the rock clean as I increase the feeding. I have never had a messuable cycle spike, which is typical for well built ATS tanks. Also, I am never able to messure any nutrients of my test kits.

I don't get any algae growth at all on the rock but it does turn a little dark if I rush the feeding. I don't think that the ATS effects the bacerial load which seems to help the snails. The turbo snails and asteas starved to death long ago becuase of the lack of hair algae but I bought some small soft shell snails that like the brown coating.

My ATS was running fine until I hooked up my 55g refugium about 4 months ago. In just a couple of weeks, after a harvest, the algae stopped growing back. The nutriant levels were always too low to measure on normal hobby test kits or at the store but they fell so low that the fast growning turf algae didn't grown back.

Basically, the refugium went into compatitoin with the ATS. I seeded the rock with a little bottled bacteria and a small sample of the oldest piece of live rock that I could buy from the store. If you look at the licks above, you will see that there is lots of air exchange from the energetic splash so oxygen was never an issue even though the ATS was no longs doing anything but offer insurence against an occational over dose of food or additives. If that happened, th algae grew for a short period of time once and a while but then return to a no growth state. At first the ATS started growing lots of brown slim from the powder and other foods but than it's growth also slowed and then stopped.

All was fine but my pH begain to fall and I had to add 8.4 and Balance more and more. I search around the web and confirmed that a rise in CO2 will cause that problem so I bought some birds nest macro algae and put it in the dump bucket. It didn't grow much at all but it did breath under the close by lighting. The CO2 went down and the pH stablized.

I am up to 18 fish and enogh coral food to completly cloud the water to the point that you can't see anything in the tank. ...but no alae ....all clean rock.

I am working on new feeding formuli as I get ready to go to the dendros. I am confedent that the tank is quite read. I have not been adding the growned squid and stuff like that because I have nothing to eat it yet. When I do, the scrubber should kick back in. In my old tank, I added fish furtalizer to keep up the algae production when I over scrubbed so this should be no problem. I think that I have lots of capacity that I have not tapped yet.

CLINTOS · 11/01/2009, 12:47 AM

That's what I was told about the ATS aswell that it would out compete cheato

a ATS is the next thing that I'm adding to my refugeless/skimmerless DT and I'm leaning towards dosing alot of phyto and meaty food

I'm hoping to add a tester dandro someday

Does anyone know which specific dendro might consume nano phyto?

slapshot · 11/01/2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aninjaatemyshoe

It wasn't a failure in the sense that Chuck's methods didn't work. He was having great results with dendronephthya. He just had a major power outage that winter that killed his tank.

Uggg that sucks! Thank you.

uhuru · 11/01/2009, 07:09 PM

herring_fish that is an awesome design you have there, please let everyone know how it works out for you with the Dendronephthya

CLINTOS · 11/01/2009, 08:41 PM

I agree

uhuru · 11/03/2009, 07:31 PM

HD video of former TOTM winner Pieter van Suijekom's NPS tank:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFjMBws7Tgg

The water is SWARMING with pods!

CLINTOS · 11/03/2009, 09:54 PM

I wonder if those are pods indroduced live shortly before feeding or grown in population?

or live at all?

03/03/2008, 10:24 PM	#701
aninjaatemyshoe Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 2,053	I have this exact coral. It has been doing ok for me, hasn't exactly exploded in growth, but hasn't declined either. It has the exact same habits as the purple "Neospongodes" that I got from Erik. __________________ For your health!

02/13/2009, 12:37 PM	#702
Genetics Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Fl. Posts: 3,341	Any updates? __________________ Nate Current Tank Info: In planning.

02/15/2009, 07:33 AM	#703
Moser Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 166	Japanese Tank Does anyone have update pics on this tank?. http://www.cpfarm.com/ I'm not sure how long it's been running, but this is the only pic I have seen of it. The Dendro's seem to be doing well though..... Mo

02/15/2009, 09:14 AM	#704
Kreeger1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cleveland Ohio area Posts: 6,039	i believe that was a staged photo, not a setup tank for any period of time. Beautiful but just done for photo opt. __________________ Coming up on 20 years in this hobby...That's a lot of skimmate Current Tank Info: Undecided 360 gal tank, 120 sps

03/02/2009, 05:02 PM	#707
Kreeger1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cleveland Ohio area Posts: 6,039	He uses Reed's products, Shell fish diet and Roti feast. His tank is no longer. He's starting a small 30 gal tank to see if he can reproduce his results small scale. __________________ Coming up on 20 years in this hobby...That's a lot of skimmate Current Tank Info: Undecided 360 gal tank, 120 sps

03/02/2009, 03:00 PM	#706
muzzler Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Russia Posts: 33	hello!!! please tell me Chuck use alive Rotifers and phytoplancton or not?

10/31/2009, 11:07 AM	#709
aninjaatemyshoe Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 2,053	It wasn't a failure in the sense that Chuck's methods didn't work. He was having great results with dendronephthya. He just had a major power outage that winter that killed his tank. __________________ For your health!

10/31/2009, 04:53 PM	#710
CLINTOS Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: windsor,ontario Canada Posts: 482	Anyone try a algae turf scrubber along with a refuge so large amount's of food can be dosed/grown while exporting inorganics and keeping the food inside? __________________ 90G coral prop,8-t5 h.o,25G sump,20G coral prop,4-t5 h.o,25g coral prop,4-t5 h.o,phosban reactor with no sponges loaded with biomax ceramic cyclinders as pod pile on all tanks, phytoplankton station/dosing on all tanks

10/31/2009, 10:51 PM	#711
herring_fish Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Winston-Salem NC Posts: 131	Yes Yes I have an ATS and a refugium. I don't run anythink else. I have a 130 gallon main tank and 55 gallon sump/refugium that is fill to the brim with a special coral rubble from Caribsea. It is very porus but unfortunatly it is not offered for sale to the public. I use a dump bucket style Algal Turf Scrubber (ATS). You can see is running on Youtube using these links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRoKX8AjEbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARl3jzpVd0g There were taken right after is was installed. By the way, I raised it up until the splash was strong enough for my liking, which is purly cosmetic and not for the health of the tank. I like the look and the soothing sound of the splash, which is quieter with the cabinet doors closed. You can also see my website with some old articles on my last project and some rendering on that project and my new one, by clicking on this: http://asaherring.com I started my tank about 10 months ago and I have been biulding up the feeding regement slowly as I work up the filter feeding higherarchy. I wanted to feed heavily and not have the food skimmed out right away. Instead, I wanted to food to circulate as long as possible. That is why I pulled out my old dump bucket that I used for about 10 years without an refugium and re-used it. I have lots of feather dusters and am starting to find sponges growning on a few of the rocks. I also have a couple of gargonions as well. Dendros are next on my list but I didn't want to simply let them wast away until I was ready. Now I am. I have worked up on the feeding, using lots of powders and other things but I have a mixed use tank that also includes SPS and LPS as well so I have high light levels and am keeping the rock clean as I increase the feeding. I have never had a messuable cycle spike, which is typical for well built ATS tanks. Also, I am never able to messure any nutrients of my test kits. I don't get any algae growth at all on the rock but it does turn a little dark if I rush the feeding. I don't think that the ATS effects the bacerial load which seems to help the snails. The turbo snails and asteas starved to death long ago becuase of the lack of hair algae but I bought some small soft shell snails that like the brown coating. My ATS was running fine until I hooked up my 55g refugium about 4 months ago. In just a couple of weeks, after a harvest, the algae stopped growing back. The nutriant levels were always too low to measure on normal hobby test kits or at the store but they fell so low that the fast growning turf algae didn't grown back. Basically, the refugium went into compatitoin with the ATS. I seeded the rock with a little bottled bacteria and a small sample of the oldest piece of live rock that I could buy from the store. If you look at the licks above, you will see that there is lots of air exchange from the energetic splash so oxygen was never an issue even though the ATS was no longs doing anything but offer insurence against an occational over dose of food or additives. If that happened, th algae grew for a short period of time once and a while but then return to a no growth state. At first the ATS started growing lots of brown slim from the powder and other foods but than it's growth also slowed and then stopped. All was fine but my pH begain to fall and I had to add 8.4 and Balance more and more. I search around the web and confirmed that a rise in CO2 will cause that problem so I bought some birds nest macro algae and put it in the dump bucket. It didn't grow much at all but it did breath under the close by lighting. The CO2 went down and the pH stablized. I am up to 18 fish and enogh coral food to completly cloud the water to the point that you can't see anything in the tank. ...but no alae ....all clean rock. I am working on new feeding formuli as I get ready to go to the dendros. I am confedent that the tank is quite read. I have not been adding the growned squid and stuff like that because I have nothing to eat it yet. When I do, the scrubber should kick back in. In my old tank, I added fish furtalizer to keep up the algae production when I over scrubbed so this should be no problem. I think that I have lots of capacity that I have not tapped yet.

11/01/2009, 12:47 AM	#712
CLINTOS Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: windsor,ontario Canada Posts: 482	That's what I was told about the ATS aswell that it would out compete cheato a ATS is the next thing that I'm adding to my refugeless/skimmerless DT and I'm leaning towards dosing alot of phyto and meaty food I'm hoping to add a tester dandro someday Does anyone know which specific dendro might consume nano phyto? __________________ 90G coral prop,8-t5 h.o,25G sump,20G coral prop,4-t5 h.o,25g coral prop,4-t5 h.o,phosban reactor with no sponges loaded with biomax ceramic cyclinders as pod pile on all tanks, phytoplankton station/dosing on all tanks Last edited by CLINTOS; 11/01/2009 at 12:53 AM.

11/01/2009, 07:09 PM	#714
uhuru Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus Posts: 1,667	herring_fish that is an awesome design you have there, please let everyone know how it works out for you with the Dendronephthya

11/01/2009, 08:41 PM	#715
CLINTOS Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: windsor,ontario Canada Posts: 482	I agree __________________ 90G coral prop,8-t5 h.o,25G sump,20G coral prop,4-t5 h.o,25g coral prop,4-t5 h.o,phosban reactor with no sponges loaded with biomax ceramic cyclinders as pod pile on all tanks, phytoplankton station/dosing on all tanks

11/03/2009, 07:31 PM	#716
uhuru Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus Posts: 1,667	HD video of former TOTM winner Pieter van Suijekom's NPS tank: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFjMBws7Tgg The water is SWARMING with pods!

11/03/2009, 09:54 PM	#717
CLINTOS Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: windsor,ontario Canada Posts: 482	I wonder if those are pods indroduced live shortly before feeding or grown in population? or live at all? __________________ 90G coral prop,8-t5 h.o,25G sump,20G coral prop,4-t5 h.o,25g coral prop,4-t5 h.o,phosban reactor with no sponges loaded with biomax ceramic cyclinders as pod pile on all tanks, phytoplankton station/dosing on all tanks