Adding Blue Damsel-Yellow Tailed or others??

NYG 010 · 11/02/2009, 10:51 PM

Hey guys I currently have a tank thats been running for about 2 months now its a 30 gallon (36''X12'') I have a good amount of Live Rock and all. The clowns I have are 1 Medium/Large Size Ocellaris and 1 baby black/white ocellaris.

My question: Can I add 1 or 2 Blue Damsels (Yellow Tailed) to the tank? If so, what size, etc.
Also, What other fishes if not this would you guys recommend I add? (at what size please!)

dalston · 11/03/2009, 12:07 AM

You could add them, but I can put money on it you will regret it later on. They are agressive and terratorial and anything you wish to add from there on may be bullied. They are also a nightmare trying to catch them when you realize they need to come out

Personally, I would look at a royal grammar or maybe a bottom dweller like a yellow watchman, JMO.

NYG 010 · 11/03/2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dalston

You could add them, but I can put money on it you will regret it later on. They are agressive and terratorial and anything you wish to add from there on may be bullied. They are also a nightmare trying to catch them when you realize they need to come out

Personally, I would look at a royal grammar or maybe a bottom dweller like a yellow watchman, JMO.

Thanks for the advice dude!

NYG 010 · 11/03/2009, 12:09 AM

Btw I just checkedo ut the Royal Grammar I like it a lot...any experience/suggestions with this?

dalston · 11/03/2009, 12:35 AM

No problem

I had a grammar in my old tank and while it was quite shy when first introduced, it soon became more active. It really adds a nice splash of color to your tank. It was always out and about and swimming along with my other fishes, great eater too. I have heard of some peoples being agressive towards more docile fish, but mine never bothered anything.

hotrodolds · 11/03/2009, 12:39 AM

royal gramma lol, sorry but grammar was to funny to just let slide.

NYG 010 · 11/03/2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dalston

No problem

I had a grammar in my old tank and while it was quite shy when first introduced, it soon became more active. It really adds a nice splash of color to your tank. It was always out and about and swimming along with my other fishes, great eater too. I have heard of some peoples being agressive towards more docile fish, but mine never bothered anything.

Sweet! I might be checkin that out instead of the blue damsels

dalston · 11/03/2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrodolds

royal gramma lol, sorry but grammar was to funny to just let slide.

Ooops

dc · 11/03/2009, 07:29 AM

How about a pair of Watchman gobies. They'll play around at the bottom and the clowns will have the top half of the tank. Grammas are one of my favorites tho.

NYG 010 · 11/03/2009, 08:39 PM

Will 2 Grammas mix with my baby black/white clown and mid sized Ocellaris?

dalston · 11/03/2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NYG 010

Will 2 Grammas mix with my baby black/white clown and mid sized Ocellaris?

Unless they are a mated pair of grammas, no. They are agressive towards their own species.

NYG 010 · 11/03/2009, 09:30 PM

I'm planning on getting 2 more fish (besides my baby clown and mid size clown) What else can I add with the Gramma thats pretty cool?

clowns101 · 11/03/2009, 10:01 PM

Oh theres a crap load

1.If you dont got a lot of coral mabey a dwarf angel?
2.There are some Butterflys that can live in a 55 gal!
3.Group of Kauderns Cardinals(3 to 5)
4.Group of Chromis!(3 to 5 also)
5.Fire Fish!
6.Mabey some wrasses!
7.Blue Dot Jaw Fish!
8.Mandarin(once the tank gets good and asstablished!)
9.Bi-Color Blenny!
10.Canary Deep Water Damsel(lots of people dont lke damsels but I reall ylike this one!)

dalston · 11/03/2009, 10:55 PM

^ I think a dwarf angel or butterfly would get too big for the 30 gallon. It's not enough room to house a group of cardinals either IMO...

I would suggest a bottom dweller like a yellow watchman goby. As those clowns become sexually mature i'm sure they will rule a part of the tank with an iron fist (or fin!?) A fish that stays at the bottom or perches around the rock should stay out of the way of your clowns terratory for the most part. Also take a look at a midas blenny, tons of character and many hobbiest's all time favourite fish.

All of course is JMO

clowns101 · 11/03/2009, 11:14 PM

I thought he had a 55 gallon!I guess I should have read a bit beter!...lol

NYG 010 · 11/03/2009, 11:47 PM

Yup 30 gallon! I'm still deciding on the 2 fish to add (I have no idea what to get!) I was going to go to the fish store today but I have noooo ideaa ahhh!!

amore169 · 11/04/2009, 12:24 AM

A Midas Blenny has a lot of personality and is always in the open.

11/02/2009, 10:51 PM	#1
NYG 010 The man, The Legend Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 198	Adding Blue Damsel-Yellow Tailed or others?? Hey guys I currently have a tank thats been running for about 2 months now its a 30 gallon (36''X12'') I have a good amount of Live Rock and all. The clowns I have are 1 Medium/Large Size Ocellaris and 1 baby black/white ocellaris. My question: Can I add 1 or 2 Blue Damsels (Yellow Tailed) to the tank? If so, what size, etc. Also, What other fishes if not this would you guys recommend I add? (at what size please!) __________________ -NYG Current Tank Info: 30 gallon - Coralife 150 W Halide (soon to be reef tank) Currently: Aquaclear 70, Aquaclear 20, Aqueon 10 Quiet Flow, Live Stock: 1 Black baby Ocellaris. 1 Regular Ocellaris

11/03/2009, 12:07 AM	#2
dalston Nano reefer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 789	You could add them, but I can put money on it you will regret it later on. They are agressive and terratorial and anything you wish to add from there on may be bullied. They are also a nightmare trying to catch them when you realize they need to come out Personally, I would look at a royal grammar or maybe a bottom dweller like a yellow watchman, JMO. __________________ Profoundly in love with Pandora ___________________________ Current Tank Info: 30 gal custom...RIP, 12 gal nano DX

11/03/2009, 12:09 AM	#4
NYG 010 The man, The Legend Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 198	Btw I just checkedo ut the Royal Grammar I like it a lot...any experience/suggestions with this? __________________ -NYG Current Tank Info: 30 gallon - Coralife 150 W Halide (soon to be reef tank) Currently: Aquaclear 70, Aquaclear 20, Aqueon 10 Quiet Flow, Live Stock: 1 Black baby Ocellaris. 1 Regular Ocellaris

11/03/2009, 12:35 AM	#5
dalston Nano reefer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 789	No problem I had a grammar in my old tank and while it was quite shy when first introduced, it soon became more active. It really adds a nice splash of color to your tank. It was always out and about and swimming along with my other fishes, great eater too. I have heard of some peoples being agressive towards more docile fish, but mine never bothered anything. __________________ Profoundly in love with Pandora ___________________________ Current Tank Info: 30 gal custom...RIP, 12 gal nano DX

11/03/2009, 12:39 AM	#6
hotrodolds Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Marietta, Ga Posts: 423	royal gramma lol, sorry but grammar was to funny to just let slide. __________________ 29g mixed reef. Broke college kid special 150w fishneedit halide. 2K1s and walmart HOB filter. finished cycle 1/18/09 Current Tank Info: 29g finished cycle 1/18/09. 2 K1s, FNI 150wMH Occ. Clown, LPS, and a monti cap.

11/03/2009, 07:29 AM	#9
dc Moved In... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Wyoming Posts: 31,431	How about a pair of Watchman gobies. They'll play around at the bottom and the clowns will have the top half of the tank. Grammas are one of my favorites tho. __________________ Debi ><> Now that we're all moved, Please be patient there's still lot's of tweaking to do. THANKS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Current Tank Info: :^( Soon to be none!

11/03/2009, 08:39 PM	#10
NYG 010 The man, The Legend Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 198	Will 2 Grammas mix with my baby black/white clown and mid sized Ocellaris? __________________ -NYG Current Tank Info: 30 gallon - Coralife 150 W Halide (soon to be reef tank) Currently: Aquaclear 70, Aquaclear 20, Aqueon 10 Quiet Flow, Live Stock: 1 Black baby Ocellaris. 1 Regular Ocellaris

11/03/2009, 09:30 PM	#12
NYG 010 The man, The Legend Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 198	I'm planning on getting 2 more fish (besides my baby clown and mid size clown) What else can I add with the Gramma thats pretty cool? __________________ -NYG Current Tank Info: 30 gallon - Coralife 150 W Halide (soon to be reef tank) Currently: Aquaclear 70, Aquaclear 20, Aqueon 10 Quiet Flow, Live Stock: 1 Black baby Ocellaris. 1 Regular Ocellaris

11/03/2009, 10:01 PM	#13
clowns101 Clowns Crazy!!!!!! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,048	Oh theres a crap load 1.If you dont got a lot of coral mabey a dwarf angel? 2.There are some Butterflys that can live in a 55 gal! 3.Group of Kauderns Cardinals(3 to 5) 4.Group of Chromis!(3 to 5 also) 5.Fire Fish! 6.Mabey some wrasses! 7.Blue Dot Jaw Fish! 8.Mandarin(once the tank gets good and asstablished!) 9.Bi-Color Blenny! 10.Canary Deep Water Damsel(lots of people dont lke damsels but I reall ylike this one!) __________________ clowns.101@hotmail.com is my email Thanks, Austin/clowns101 Current Tank Info: 3 tanks 30,10,8 and working on a 300 to 400 gallon clownfish breeding system and a anemone propagation system of about 100 gallons!

11/03/2009, 10:55 PM	#14
dalston Nano reefer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 789	^ I think a dwarf angel or butterfly would get too big for the 30 gallon. It's not enough room to house a group of cardinals either IMO... I would suggest a bottom dweller like a yellow watchman goby. As those clowns become sexually mature i'm sure they will rule a part of the tank with an iron fist (or fin!?) A fish that stays at the bottom or perches around the rock should stay out of the way of your clowns terratory for the most part. Also take a look at a midas blenny, tons of character and many hobbiest's all time favourite fish. All of course is JMO __________________ Profoundly in love with Pandora ___________________________ Current Tank Info: 30 gal custom...RIP, 12 gal nano DX

11/03/2009, 11:14 PM	#15
clowns101 Clowns Crazy!!!!!! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,048	I thought he had a 55 gallon!I guess I should have read a bit beter!...lol __________________ clowns.101@hotmail.com is my email Thanks, Austin/clowns101 Current Tank Info: 3 tanks 30,10,8 and working on a 300 to 400 gallon clownfish breeding system and a anemone propagation system of about 100 gallons!

11/03/2009, 11:47 PM	#16
NYG 010 The man, The Legend Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 198	Yup 30 gallon! I'm still deciding on the 2 fish to add (I have no idea what to get!) I was going to go to the fish store today but I have noooo ideaa ahhh!! __________________ -NYG Current Tank Info: 30 gallon - Coralife 150 W Halide (soon to be reef tank) Currently: Aquaclear 70, Aquaclear 20, Aqueon 10 Quiet Flow, Live Stock: 1 Black baby Ocellaris. 1 Regular Ocellaris

11/04/2009, 12:24 AM	#17
amore169 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: El Paso Tx. Posts: 714	A Midas Blenny has a lot of personality and is always in the open. __________________ Arnie. Current Tank Info: 215 Oceanic RR Starphire front glass, BubbleKing Deluxe 300 Internal, Lumen Brights Reflectors, CoralVue 400 Ballast, Radium SE Bulbs, 83 Gallon Sump,