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Rare Angels · 11/06/2009, 06:10 PM

I like the way you think Chris!

tanglovers · 11/06/2009, 06:13 PM

Awesome pickup John! A very cool addition for sure!

Mentat · 11/06/2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by copps

Oh... and I'll post more pictures for you guys when I receive this fish...

Copps

Learning lots while reading you post over a cup of coffee and then chocked on it while laughing at this part

. Kindly post more pictures of this beauty once you get it settled at home John.

ckuhndog77 · 11/06/2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by copps

Oh... and I'll post more pictures for you guys when I receive this fish...

Copps

I get to see it tomorrow

see you in morning bro.

Iwishihadgills · 11/06/2009, 10:56 PM

Good job on your quick computer skills and grabbing that sweet fish quickly copps. How long did it take for you to buy it once it was up? lol

Beaun · 11/07/2009, 12:15 AM

Just got back from our monthly reef club meeting (long island reef association) with Kevin from DD as the speaker. He mentioned that they had this fish in their quarantine/holding system for 5 months before putting it up for sale. Just thought it was kind of interesting and worth sharing.

copps · 11/07/2009, 01:00 AM

Thanks so much guys... it really is a pleasure sharing this with you guys... This is the blueline she'll be joining after a few months of QT and transition... sorry for the blurry pic, but this is why I take pics in a specimen container! Also in this system are my trio of Red Sea regal angels that have been together almost five years now, amongst many others...

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Originally Posted by ccampbell57

Throw the conspic in the mix and see if you can get a REALLY funky mixture

This system runs too high in temp for my tiny conspic... I have a number of very cool (and very cool water) small specimens that the conspic will join in a new coolwater tank I'm adding to one of my large systems, with a dedicated chiller to drop the temp down an extra 5-7 degrees (to around 70-72), trickle fed from the main system so that I do not need to add all of the required life support of a separate system... I have some very very special fish going into this tank... always keeping it exciting!

Here's the little guy...

Copps

LuvAngels88 · 11/07/2009, 02:47 AM

That is an awesome tank this fish is going into, John! Congrats on the beautiful new addition! As always, thanks for all the great info all of us angelfish nuts love. Can't wait to see more pics!

amore169 · 11/07/2009, 04:20 AM

Amazing fish!! Very nice.

kinlayan · 11/07/2009, 03:17 PM

what a beautiful conspic wow!!! you are blessed to have these fish!
Thank you for sharing!

copps · 11/10/2009, 04:56 PM

I wish I had better news... I received the fish Saturday, packed of course excellently in its own 40 lb. box by LA. This fish was in excellent shape before shipping... I trust and respect Kevin Kohen and the DD more than any other online retail outlet... Kevin is a good friend and knows his stuff... but unfortunately whenever you ship something you take a risk... the fish came in on its side, only swimming when coaxed, in that "tail down" position... I knew immediately it was in the "living dead" category, and the fish passed less than 72 hours later in QT... no outward signs of disease or anything... an otherwise apparently healthy fish with no swim bladder control... it's happened to me before with well shipped healthy fish... oh well...

Fortunately, this fish's death was not in vain, and this fish will be donated to science. As I've mentioned before I've partnered up with a couple of ichthyologists to answer many of the angelfish questions I've had for years, and this guys DNA will come in handy...

Any way you look at it, uncontrollable fish deaths suck... but more mazes will come... long ago in this hobby (and now in life), I've learned to only worry about things under my control...

Copps

Luiz Rocha · 11/10/2009, 05:06 PM

That really sucks, when I saw the first posts I was expecting to see pics of it swimming in your QT towards the end of the thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by copps

Fortunately, this fish's death was not in vain, and this fish will be donated to science. As I've mentioned before I've partnered up with a couple of ichthyologists to answer many of the angelfish questions I've had for years, and this guys DNA will come in handy...

I've received a lot of Chaetodontoplus from a few RC members and have almost all species of the genus now, this will be a marvelous addition if you can spare a sample for me... I have a box of tubes and preservative for you on its way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by copps

I've learned to only worry about things under my control...

Now that's the attitude!

mpoletti · 11/10/2009, 05:10 PM

I'm sorry to hear John. Good luck with the next one

copps · 11/10/2009, 05:16 PM

Thanks guys... Luiz buddy... no worries! As we spoke about I've got so many specimens lined up to look at... living and dead... either way I'm fin chopping!

Let's get these questions answered!

ccampbell57 · 11/10/2009, 05:18 PM

Damn dude...sorry John.

I know how you feel man. How big was the little guy?

Luiz Rocha · 11/10/2009, 05:20 PM

No worries, just excited about the possibility of putting my hands (or pipettes) on some of these species that I never had the chance to study before

I just feel bad it took me so long to find these forums! Duh

copps · 11/10/2009, 05:21 PM

This fish was not that big in "maze angel" standards... about 5 inches... every inch up in length results in an exponentially larger fish... fortunately this past week I received another little angelfish hybrid that is doing excellently... this of the eastern Pacific variety...

copps · 11/10/2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luiz Rocha

No worries, just excited about the possibility of putting my hands (or pipettes) on some of these species that I never had the chance to study before

I just feel bad it took me so long to find these forums! Duh

Thanks Luiz... wait until you see what I have in my freezer... I've saved everything through the years... and what I can get my hands on from my living collection I'm willing to chop too... I'm even gathering others frozen fish...

mpoletti · 11/10/2009, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by copps

This fish was not that big in "maze angel" standards... about 5 inches... every inch up in length results in an exponentially larger fish... fortunately this past week I received another little angelfish hybrid that is doing excellently... this of the eastern Pacific variety...

Tease

copps · 11/10/2009, 06:17 PM

I figured I'd throw a bone to the angelfish nuts that can extrapolate what this fish is and figure it out 100% based on that info...

mpoletti · 11/10/2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by copps

I figured I'd throw a bone to the angelfish nuts that can extrapolate what this fish is and figure it out 100% based on that info...

I'd rather just get a PM, email or see a thread with a whole bunch of pictures

Iwishihadgills · 11/10/2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpoletti

I'd rather just get a PM, email or see a thread with a whole bunch of pictures

+1 for pictures of this other hybrid

Sheol · 11/10/2009, 07:23 PM

Copps got it? Why am I not surprised?!! LOL

Matthew

Sheol · 11/10/2009, 07:25 PM

Sigh.. Cancel my above quip. Sorry, John. Tho that is why some of us hesitate when it comes to very expensive fish..
Anyway, sorry to hear it.

Matthew

Dejavu · 11/10/2009, 07:25 PM

Sorry about the loss.... I'm sure another one will find it's way to you.

11/06/2009, 06:10 PM	#26
Rare Angels Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Appleton, Wi Posts: 808	I like the way you think Chris! __________________ Do, or Do Not, There is No Try!!--Yoda Current Tank Info: Currently working on 300 and 250 gallon tanks

11/06/2009, 10:56 PM	#30
Iwishihadgills Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lodi,CA Posts: 321	Good job on your quick computer skills and grabbing that sweet fish quickly copps. How long did it take for you to buy it once it was up? lol __________________ cameron

11/07/2009, 12:15 AM	#31
Beaun It's pronounced Bone Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Hampton, NY Posts: 550	Just got back from our monthly reef club meeting (long island reef association) with Kevin from DD as the speaker. He mentioned that they had this fish in their quarantine/holding system for 5 months before putting it up for sale. Just thought it was kind of interesting and worth sharing. __________________ -Tyler "Do, or do not. There is no try." Current Tank Info: 65g mixed reef, natural sea water

11/07/2009, 04:20 AM	#34
amore169 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: El Paso Tx. Posts: 714	Amazing fish!! Very nice. __________________ Arnie. Current Tank Info: 215 Oceanic RR Starphire front glass, BubbleKing Deluxe 300 Internal, Lumen Brights Reflectors, CoralVue 400 Ballast, Radium SE Bulbs, 83 Gallon Sump,

11/10/2009, 04:56 PM	#36
copps Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,796	I wish I had better news... I received the fish Saturday, packed of course excellently in its own 40 lb. box by LA. This fish was in excellent shape before shipping... I trust and respect Kevin Kohen and the DD more than any other online retail outlet... Kevin is a good friend and knows his stuff... but unfortunately whenever you ship something you take a risk... the fish came in on its side, only swimming when coaxed, in that "tail down" position... I knew immediately it was in the "living dead" category, and the fish passed less than 72 hours later in QT... no outward signs of disease or anything... an otherwise apparently healthy fish with no swim bladder control... it's happened to me before with well shipped healthy fish... oh well... Fortunately, this fish's death was not in vain, and this fish will be donated to science. As I've mentioned before I've partnered up with a couple of ichthyologists to answer many of the angelfish questions I've had for years, and this guys DNA will come in handy... Any way you look at it, uncontrollable fish deaths suck... but more mazes will come... long ago in this hobby (and now in life), I've learned to only worry about things under my control... Copps __________________ - John Taxonomic distinctions based on either coloration or genetics alone can be hazardous. What is recommended to the novice and what experienced reefers do are two different things. Current Tank Info: ~1000 gallons throughout the house (yes I'm nuts)

11/06/2009, 06:13 PM	#27
tanglovers Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 657	Awesome pickup John! A very cool addition for sure!

11/07/2009, 02:47 AM	#33
LuvAngels88 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: VA Posts: 280	That is an awesome tank this fish is going into, John! Congrats on the beautiful new addition! As always, thanks for all the great info all of us angelfish nuts love. Can't wait to see more pics!

11/07/2009, 03:17 PM	#35
kinlayan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 184	what a beautiful conspic wow!!! you are blessed to have these fish! Thank you for sharing!

11/10/2009, 05:10 PM	#38
mpoletti Centropyge Joculator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 13,621	I'm sorry to hear John. Good luck with the next one __________________ -Mark I'm not cool enough for any clubs Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon Lee Mar starfire custom

11/10/2009, 05:16 PM	#39
copps Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,796	Thanks guys... Luiz buddy... no worries! As we spoke about I've got so many specimens lined up to look at... living and dead... either way I'm fin chopping! Let's get these questions answered! __________________ - John Taxonomic distinctions based on either coloration or genetics alone can be hazardous. What is recommended to the novice and what experienced reefers do are two different things. Current Tank Info: ~1000 gallons throughout the house (yes I'm nuts)

11/10/2009, 05:18 PM	#40
ccampbell57 Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Highlands Ranch, Colorado Posts: 1,289	Damn dude...sorry John. I know how you feel man. How big was the little guy? __________________ -Chris I have a fever and the only cure is more Angelfish!!!! Current Tank Info: 600 gallon DT in progress (900g system)

11/10/2009, 05:20 PM	#41
Luiz Rocha Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Port Aransas, TX Posts: 230	No worries, just excited about the possibility of putting my hands (or pipettes) on some of these species that I never had the chance to study before I just feel bad it took me so long to find these forums! Duh

11/10/2009, 05:21 PM	#42
copps Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,796	This fish was not that big in "maze angel" standards... about 5 inches... every inch up in length results in an exponentially larger fish... fortunately this past week I received another little angelfish hybrid that is doing excellently... this of the eastern Pacific variety... __________________ - John Taxonomic distinctions based on either coloration or genetics alone can be hazardous. What is recommended to the novice and what experienced reefers do are two different things. Current Tank Info: ~1000 gallons throughout the house (yes I'm nuts)

11/10/2009, 06:17 PM	#45
copps Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,796	I figured I'd throw a bone to the angelfish nuts that can extrapolate what this fish is and figure it out 100% based on that info... __________________ - John Taxonomic distinctions based on either coloration or genetics alone can be hazardous. What is recommended to the novice and what experienced reefers do are two different things. Current Tank Info: ~1000 gallons throughout the house (yes I'm nuts)

11/10/2009, 07:23 PM	#48
Sheol Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Waxahachie, Tx. Posts: 2,026	Copps got it? Why am I not surprised?!! LOL Matthew

11/10/2009, 07:25 PM	#49
Sheol Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Waxahachie, Tx. Posts: 2,026	Sigh.. Cancel my above quip. Sorry, John. Tho that is why some of us hesitate when it comes to very expensive fish.. Anyway, sorry to hear it. Matthew

11/10/2009, 07:25 PM	#50
Dejavu Team RC Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,281	Sorry about the loss.... I'm sure another one will find it's way to you. __________________ Brian You can not solve problems with the same thinking that caused those problems. -Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 270 Starphire by Miracles in GlassBK 250 InternalSequence Blackfin 1800(4) 6105 Tunzes Streams(3) 400 watt Blueline E-Ballast400w 20k Radiums(3) Lumanarc IIIGEO 624 Ca ReactorTunze OsmolotorPM SR45 and TLF PhosBan Reactor 150Apex