Wild Onyx Clownfish. Take 3 - Page 14

CoralsAddiction · 06/30/2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThRoewer

I don't think it makes too much of a difference if you feed Hikkari or other frozen food when it comes to anemones (BTW, what qualifies as "premium" frozen food).

I would say brands like LRS Fish Frenzy fall into that category.

CoralsAddiction · 06/30/2015, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThRoewer

I don't think it makes too much of a difference if you feed Hikkari or other frozen food when it comes to anemones .

To me it's about controlling the quality of water. PE mysis always caused phosphate and nitrate spikes. Some food manufacturers are known for using RO/DI water in their foods while others may use reg tap water. So it's more than just what goes in the anemone's mouth in my case.

domination2580 · 06/30/2015, 11:33 PM

I have a lightning maroon I'm paying off hopefully soon with a morse code maroon to breed with...certified png lineage

ThRoewer · 06/30/2015, 11:38 PM

I always rinse the food before giving it to my fish (or anemones). Also I doubt tap water makes that much of a difference when it comes to phosphate and nitrate loads (unless it comes from an agricultural area). The amount of water in the food is just too small.
What may rather cause elevated phosphates and nitrates is the bleeding of the food organisms.

CoralsAddiction · 06/30/2015, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by domination2580

I have a lightning maroon I'm paying off hopefully soon with a morse code maroon to breed with...certified png lineage

Sweet. Post some pics.

CoralsAddiction · 06/30/2015, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThRoewer

What may rather cause elevated phosphates and nitrates is the bleeding of the food organisms.

I hear some frozen foods can carry bacteria harmful to anemones...but I don't know how much truth there is to it given the low temperature the food is kept in for bacteria to survive.

ThRoewer · 07/01/2015, 02:22 AM

Not all bacteria are equally bad for anemones. The ones on food may or may not be harmful. Also, it is almost impossible to tell which food contains which bacteria. This actually depends more on where the food was harvested than anything else.

domination2580 · 07/01/2015, 02:43 AM

These are the exact ones I'm getting. I'm still paying them off but Mr cob keeps me well informed with pics.

Dkuhlmann · 07/01/2015, 03:10 AM

How much was the pair if you don't mind my asking. I've been amazed at the prices of some of the designer clownfish. The designer clowns came about while I was on leave from the hobby.

ThRoewer · 07/01/2015, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dkuhlmann

... The designer clowns came about while I was on leave from the hobby.

Yeah, me too, and the guppyfication of clownfish I found upon my return to the hobby was quite disturbing.

Though those Premnas are not really designer clowns, more rare variations found in the wild (PNG & Solomons).

CoralsAddiction · 07/03/2015, 03:54 PM

5 days after tank upgrade everyone is doing good.

Dkuhlmann · 07/04/2015, 09:15 AM

Awesome, I'll be doing my upgrade in a few weeks. I've got everything but I just had spine surgery a little over 3 weeks ago and on Wed had to go in for emergency surgery to get rid of a bad infection that hit. So might be a while.

Do you have any full tank shots?

CoralsAddiction · 07/04/2015, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dkuhlmann

Awesome, I'll be doing my upgrade in a few weeks. I've got everything but I just had spine surgery a little over 3 weeks ago and on Wed had to go in for emergency surgery to get rid of a bad infection that hit. So might be a while.

Do you have any full tank shots?

I sold off my corals before the upgrade and don't have much in the tank right now. But I will probably put another gig or two in it.

CoralsAddiction · 07/04/2015, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dkuhlmann

I just had spine surgery a little over 3 weeks ago and on Wed had to go in for emergency surgery to get rid of a bad infection that hit. So might be a while.

Get well soon.

Dkuhlmann · 07/04/2015, 09:09 PM

Thanks for the well wishes and trust me, I really can't wait for the healing to be done. I've had leg pain/numbness since an accident in 97 so this is a very long time coming.

Tank looks great, I didn't think I'd like one that minimal but yours looks great. What size is it?

Mine is only a 40b and that's as big as I want to go on a mixed reef/fish tank. I've had up to 200 gal in the past and it's just too much work IMO. So I'm going to keep it simple.

domination2580 · 07/04/2015, 10:46 PM

They cost me 300$ it's not a mates pair but broodstock ready. They Are together at all times and sleep together so that's a good sign. I'm getting a frosted rainbow bubble tip anemone from the same guy for them . It's going to be my "special" tank.

domination2580 · 07/04/2015, 10:47 PM

I'm going to have my 125 gallon and the 55 with the clowns. They will have the entire 55gallon to themselves.

CoralsAddiction · 07/05/2015, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dkuhlmann

So I'm going to keep it simple.

That's what has kept me in the hobby lately. My tank is 42 gallons (30x18x18) and is hooked up to a 12 gallon sump.

CoralsAddiction · 07/05/2015, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by domination2580

I'm going to have my 125 gallon and the 55 with the clowns. They will have the entire 55gallon to themselves.

That's nice. My clowns rule the tank. I added a bicolor chromis yesterday and have noticed a significant change in my clowns' behavior. They began to venture out more from their anemone. So sometimes adding a fish like that makes clowns more comfortable and secure. I also have a purple firefish but it's too shy and only comes out at feeding time.

ThRoewer · 07/05/2015, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CoralsAddiction

I sold off my corals before the upgrade and don't have much in the tank right now. But I will probably put another gig or two in it.

That looks like a CAD Lights tank - what's the size?
I have a 30"x18"x18" from them.

Dkuhlmann · 07/05/2015, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CoralsAddiction

That's what has kept me in the hobby lately. My tank is 42 gallons (30x18x18) and is hooked up to a 12 gallon sump.

I recently bought my current setup on Craigslist for $50

and what I thought was a 30 gal DT with a 20 gal tall sump. Well after checking the dimensions of the DT it's only a 20 gal long 30x12x12 So I'm going to keep the sump setup and use the new 40b that I just got from Petco last weekend. This will be the perfect mixed reef for me. I agree with you as the big tanks are just too much work that I'm not interested in doing anymore, just want to enjoy a nice sized tank and the 40 b fits that ticket perfectly

Dkuhlmann · 07/05/2015, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by domination2580

They cost me 300$ it's not a mates pair but broodstock ready. They Are together at all times and sleep together so that's a good sign. I'm getting a frosted rainbow bubble tip anemone from the same guy for them . It's going to be my "special" tank.

So you are planning on producing babies I take it.

I saw in another post you put up that you are keeping this pair in a 55gal tank? Why so large, if in fact you are going to be raising young? A 20 gal would be so much easier to deal with all the way around, especially when collecting the lava after they hatch. I think in most cases people who breed go with 10 gal for the most part. Of course this is all speculating that you are going to actually raise them.

Don't think I've actually seen a frosted BTA. Do you have a picture of it?

ThRoewer · 07/05/2015, 02:40 AM

Collecting larva is the most inefficient way when breeding clownfish. Best is to either keep them in a ceramic flowerpot, or if you give them an anemone to offer a flowerpot shard for them to lay their eggs on. That way you can move the eggs to the larva tank the evening before the hatch and lose next to none.

Dkuhlmann · 07/05/2015, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ThRoewer

Collecting larva is the most inefficient way when breeding clownfish. Best is to either keep them in a ceramic flowerpot, or if you give them an anemone to offer a flowerpot shard for them to lay their eggs on. That way you can move the eggs to the larva tank the evening before the hatch and lose next to none.

You really should write a thread about the process to share with us. I know I for one would greatly appreciate it, I'm sure many others will as well. Oh and don't forget the pictures... lots of pictures

domination2580 · 07/05/2015, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ThRoewer

Collecting larva is the most inefficient way when breeding clownfish. Best is to either keep them in a ceramic flowerpot, or if you give them an anemone to offer a flowerpot shard for them to lay their eggs on. That way you can move the eggs to the larva tank the evening before the hatch and lose next to none.

This is exactly the way I plan. Which is why so large. I want them to feel they have a lot of room to wander and feel safe.

06/30/2015, 11:38 PM	#329
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	I always rinse the food before giving it to my fish (or anemones). Also I doubt tap water makes that much of a difference when it comes to phosphate and nitrate loads (unless it comes from an agricultural area). The amount of water in the food is just too small. What may rather cause elevated phosphates and nitrates is the bleeding of the food organisms. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

07/01/2015, 02:22 AM	#332
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Not all bacteria are equally bad for anemones. The ones on food may or may not be harmful. Also, it is almost impossible to tell which food contains which bacteria. This actually depends more on where the food was harvested than anything else. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

07/01/2015, 03:10 AM	#334
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	How much was the pair if you don't mind my asking. I've been amazed at the prices of some of the designer clownfish. The designer clowns came about while I was on leave from the hobby. __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

07/04/2015, 09:15 AM	#337
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Awesome, I'll be doing my upgrade in a few weeks. I've got everything but I just had spine surgery a little over 3 weeks ago and on Wed had to go in for emergency surgery to get rid of a bad infection that hit. So might be a while. Do you have any full tank shots? __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

07/04/2015, 09:09 PM	#340
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Thanks for the well wishes and trust me, I really can't wait for the healing to be done. I've had leg pain/numbness since an accident in 97 so this is a very long time coming. Tank looks great, I didn't think I'd like one that minimal but yours looks great. What size is it? Mine is only a 40b and that's as big as I want to go on a mixed reef/fish tank. I've had up to 200 gal in the past and it's just too much work IMO. So I'm going to keep it simple. __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

06/30/2015, 11:33 PM	#328
domination2580 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 191	I have a lightning maroon I'm paying off hopefully soon with a morse code maroon to breed with...certified png lineage

07/01/2015, 02:43 AM	#333
domination2580 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 191	These are the exact ones I'm getting. I'm still paying them off but Mr cob keeps me well informed with pics.

07/03/2015, 03:54 PM	#336
CoralsAddiction Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: L.A./Tahoe Posts: 6,003	5 days after tank upgrade everyone is doing good.

07/04/2015, 10:46 PM	#341
domination2580 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 191	They cost me 300$ it's not a mates pair but broodstock ready. They Are together at all times and sleep together so that's a good sign. I'm getting a frosted rainbow bubble tip anemone from the same guy for them . It's going to be my "special" tank.

07/04/2015, 10:47 PM	#342
domination2580 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 191	I'm going to have my 125 gallon and the 55 with the clowns. They will have the entire 55gallon to themselves.

07/05/2015, 02:40 AM	#348
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Collecting larva is the most inefficient way when breeding clownfish. Best is to either keep them in a ceramic flowerpot, or if you give them an anemone to offer a flowerpot shard for them to lay their eggs on. That way you can move the eggs to the larva tank the evening before the hatch and lose next to none. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...