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Old 12/06/2017, 01:59 PM   #1
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Is there any competition for Divers Den?

If i am looking to buy quarantined fish or invert, is my only option online Divers Den?


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Old 12/06/2017, 02:18 PM   #2
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People here won't consider what Diver's Den does quarantining either.

Other websites do have wysiwyg options.


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Old 12/06/2017, 02:46 PM   #3
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People here won't consider what Diver's Den does quarantining either.

Other websites do have wysiwyg options.
I thought divers den was mostly considered acceptable on here. Have people gotten burnt on here with sick fish from DD?


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Old 12/06/2017, 02:57 PM   #4
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I thought divers den was mostly considered acceptable on here. Have people gotten burnt on here with sick fish from DD?
They are acceptable...

But I believe that even with quarantine the stresses involved in transportation can cause the ICH to flare right back up...

Those that actively/religiously quarantine will still do their own quarantine no matter what DD or even their own mother said she did already..


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Old 12/06/2017, 03:09 PM   #5
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They are acceptable...

But I believe that even with quarantine the stresses involved in transportation can cause the ICH to flare right back up...

Those that actively/religiously quarantine will still do their own quarantine no matter what DD or even their own mother said she did already..

^^^This^^^ x 1000


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Old 12/06/2017, 03:39 PM   #6
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^^^This^^^ x 1000
got it, so is there another company out their doing the same as divers den?


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I think there are several that claim to b e QT'ing, but until they creature has passed my own QT I just cannot bring myself to trust that it is disease free.


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Old 12/06/2017, 04:20 PM   #8
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If you are not able to quarantine them yourself, you could ask the best saltwater LFS in your area about this. They are in the business to sell fish. If they have display tanks with fish that they keep and don't sell they might be able to quarantine them for you or point you in the right direction for disease free fish in the industry. (If there is such a thing these days.)


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Old 12/07/2017, 11:57 AM   #9
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I ordered a Black Axil Chromis from Live Aquaria as I also trusted them because I didn't have a quarantine tank. 2 weeks after it came I noticed it had a parasite, It then died, and took down another fish with it. Now I'm trying to get the parasite out of my display tank that has a coral and inverts in it.


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Old 12/07/2017, 12:05 PM   #10
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I ordered a Black Axil Chromis from Live Aquaria as I also trusted them because I didn't have a quarantine tank. 2 weeks after it came I noticed it had a parasite, It then died, and took down another fish with it. Now I'm trying to get the parasite out of my display tank that has a coral and inverts in it.
Did you order from DD or LA? They have VERY distinct differences.


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Old 12/07/2017, 01:41 PM   #11
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i don't trust anyone to QT except me.

DD will even tell you that you need to actually QT their fish, just like any other.


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Old 12/07/2017, 02:49 PM   #12
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anyone have any idea what the percentages are on getting a healthy fish from LA, or from DD?

is it like 75% and 95%? or more like 50 and 95?


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Old 12/07/2017, 05:14 PM   #13
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Honestly just QT your fish for a few weeks no matter how well someone else claimed to. Or you may learn the hard way which is a 200-300 dollar tank wipeout and a 10 week fallow period (your choice).


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Old 12/07/2017, 05:36 PM   #14
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Doesn’t work wide corals do this too?


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Old 12/07/2017, 07:48 PM   #15
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Honestly just QT your fish for a few weeks no matter how well someone else claimed to. Or you may learn the hard way which is a 200-300 dollar tank wipeout and a 10 week fallow period (your choice).
i dont have alot of space for another tank.

But that is my plan now, i will find a way to make it work. it is certainly not worth a real problem.

one problem is it basically has to go right next to my DT, and i am worried water can splash over


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I'm glad I found this thread I was about to order a few from them and go straight in due to the quarantine process they say they go through... I think I will not be skipping that...


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Old 12/07/2017, 11:18 PM   #17
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My experience has been that DD fish usually appear to be healthier, fatter, and eating great when compared to LA or other places. Not saying that they are disease free, as I qt DD fish too.

As far as competition, I've ordered from other WYSIWYG places and had good and bad experiences but overall, I prefer DD.


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Old 12/07/2017, 11:24 PM   #18
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anyone have any idea what the percentages are on getting a healthy fish from LA, or from DD?

is it like 75% and 95%? or more like 50 and 95?
I can only tell you my own experience (over many shipments). I've yet to get an observably diseased fish from DD, and my overall success rate is 90% plus. Not so good with regular LA, though still better than 75% disease free. If I did not do a thorough QT myself, I'd have introduced two strains of ich, one strain of velvet, lots of flukes and most damaging of all uronema (though not all from LA). If you cannot or will not do a proper QT then so be it. Short of buying from a trusted local reefer, DD is your best bet if you're going to skip QT.


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Old 12/08/2017, 06:58 AM   #19
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What is this divers den you speak of (yes I have heard of them but apparently it's just another mane for live aquaria). If you google divers den the whole first page is live aquaria.


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Old 12/08/2017, 07:29 AM   #20
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It's the BIG square box (second row left) that says Divers Den, WYSIWYG Store BROWSE>


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Old 12/08/2017, 07:30 AM   #21
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Look for the Diver's Den WYSIWYG link on the Liveaquaria page. DD fish/inverts come fro their facility in Wisconsin. LA fish/inverts come from California. Plenty of information on their qt process on the site and there's a recent facility tour on here and youtube. DD is my best option and I've had no issues.


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Old 12/08/2017, 07:35 AM   #22
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If i am looking to buy quarantined fish or invert, is my only option online Divers Den?
Divers Den "conditions" fish for 2 weeks before offering them for sale. Which means they make sure the fish is eating. You would still need to QT any fish you purchase from them, unless you like to take chances. Anything that comes from the LiveAquaria site, comes directly from Quality Marine.


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