The Skimmer Comparison Chart

RobbyG · 12/10/2007, 01:16 PM

About 6 months ago I was contacted by RC member Straegen and asked if I could Upgrade and Host a Skimmer chart he had put together. He wanted other RC members to benefit from the chart. So over the next few months I added Pictures to the Chart and reformatted the style so as to put it more in line with the controller comparison chart. Then to finish things off RC member jdeick added his expert excel touches and DavidRyder reworked the web page to accommodate the chart.

So now I would like to share with you the work and efforts of all involved, and I would like to specially acknowledge the man who put together the core data, RC member Straegen.

Here is the Link for the Skimmer Comparison Chart.

http://www.aquariumcontrollers.com/a...p#skimmerchart

I hope this make purchasing a protien skimmer a little easier

and if you have any questions about all these various models of protien skimmers, possibly Straegen will come by and answer some questions, also there are numerous skimmer experts on RC who I hope will stay close to this thread and offer assistance.

As you can imagine with a chart this big there will be some mistakes in the first version so please post anything that you find.

Straegen · 12/10/2007, 01:28 PM

Looks incredible. You guys did a great job cleaning it up.

RobbyG · 12/10/2007, 02:10 PM

Thanks.

USC-fan · 12/10/2007, 02:14 PM

FYI- need to check the prices some are wrong.

Snowboarda42 · 12/10/2007, 02:17 PM

Nice!

Constructive Criticism - Maybe take the black bar at the top that tells what each column means and put it at the top of each company category. Its kinda annoying to have to jump back up to the top to see what number means what. Just a thought...

killagoby · 12/10/2007, 02:19 PM

Nice!

davidryder · 12/10/2007, 02:21 PM

Yes feedback is most certainly welcome!

RobbyG · 12/10/2007, 02:28 PM

Can you give me some idea as to what units are wrong?

Quote:

Originally posted by USC-fan
FYI- need to check the prices some are wrong.

luke33 · 12/10/2007, 03:04 PM

You also need to change the rating of the remora pro to a 29g or less ; ) Looks nice and with the proper feedback you will get a nice comparison chart. For the via aqua's the sk200's are recommended at 100g, i'd recommend them for up to a 65g tank. the sk388's are recomended up to a 150g tank. I would suggest a 100g or smaller. Prices for both are 89sk200 and 115 sk388. Thats my start

RobbyG · 12/10/2007, 03:09 PM

Thanks Luke33
After a few days and I get enough corrected data, I will go in and fix the problems.

luke33 · 12/10/2007, 03:31 PM

I'll try and take a look at it more after i get off work. I think it can be a great piece for beginners if done correctly.

USC-fan · 12/10/2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobbyG
Can you give me some idea as to what units are wrong?

i didn't look at much but i saw the H&S prices are not correct.

FishAreFriends2 · 12/10/2007, 03:46 PM

I think the octopus hob skimmer bh100/f are higher than 40gallons for actual ratings. Its more like 55gallons, I own a bh100 and I'm getting great skimmate any higher I wouldnt recommend. Theres one reefer who has the bh100 on a 90gallon which is too much but hes getting serious skimmate, so the actual rating should be a 55gallon. And the price of the BH100f is wrong. It cost 141.99 at reefstop average is 150. It also comes with a surface skimming box and pumps in the back chamber.
I don't see the rogue up there.

bhdmc · 12/10/2007, 03:49 PM

Thanks for the great work.

luke33 · 12/10/2007, 03:58 PM

One thing i think would be super helpful would be another field for airdraw. That would be excellent. Because when comparing a skimmer to a skimmer one could pull 40scfh and the other 10scfh and there the same size, shape similar gph pump and whatnot.

FishAreFriends2 · 12/10/2007, 04:04 PM

Does that involve mods?

fahadahmed · 12/10/2007, 04:08 PM

This might be complex but it would be REALLY cool to have some kind of rating system. Something lest complex would be "Editor's Choice" where you can give a personal recommendation about a certain skimmers.

Really cool chart!!! Kudos!

USC-fan · 12/10/2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by luke33
One thing i think would be super helpful would be another field for airdraw. That would be excellent. Because when comparing a skimmer to a skimmer one could pull 40scfh and the other 10scfh and there the same size, shape similar gph pump and whatnot.

That wouldn't be a good idea. While one pump may pull the same amount of air, one could be pumping out twice the amount of water.

chrissreef · 12/10/2007, 04:48 PM

Very nice!!

Comments...Where's orca/reeflo, MTC, DAS, or those cone skimmers? I didn't check if the new octo xtreme's are there.

Personally I'd like general gallon categories because it's inconvenient to filter it down by 12, 29, 30, 40, 90 etc. etc.
i.e. 0-50g 50-100, 100-150, 150-250, 250-400, 400+

edit: I just saw your note on RK3... I'm building my tank now... can you give me a ballpark range or availability date on this? i.e. $250-400? 1st quarter '08 release? etc.

Thanks!

chrissreef · 12/10/2007, 04:58 PM

just saw the XWave controller by PCI - not sure if it works with all powerheads but wanted to mention it.

Great site!

RobbyG · 12/10/2007, 05:20 PM

Re: Orca skimmer, maybe Straegen can jump in

Straegen is the skimmer Brain, I only added eye candy.

Some of the listing eg. 20 gal 60gal etc. are just numbers from the manufactorers website or help manual. We don't want to mess with there numbers unless the company updates there info.

Re: RK3 / RKE, it will be out near Feb 08.

Quote:

Originally posted by chrissreef
Very nice!!

Comments...Where's orca/reeflo, MTC, DAS, or those cone skimmers? I didn't check if the new octo xtreme's are there.

Personally I'd like general gallon categories because it's inconvenient to filter it down by 12, 29, 30, 40, 90 etc. etc.
i.e. 0-50g 50-100, 100-150, 150-250, 250-400, 400+

edit: I just saw your note on RK3... I'm building my tank now... can you give me a ballpark range or availability date on this? i.e. $250-400? 1st quarter '08 release? etc.

Thanks!

xparky · 12/10/2007, 05:30 PM

Great job guys. I wish there was a tool like this to aid me when I was looking for skimmer. Just bought skimmer a month back I can recognize the value this sheet brings.

RobbyG · 12/10/2007, 06:48 PM

I have only tested 2 skimmers on the whole chart

I doubt you will find anybody on RC that has used more than 6 out of the 120+ skimmers listed, so ratings are not going to be easy.

Quote:

Originally posted by fahadahmed
This might be complex but it would be REALLY cool to have some kind of rating system. Something lest complex would be "Editor's Choice" where you can give a personal recommendation about a certain skimmers.

Really cool chart!!! Kudos!

RobbyG · 12/10/2007, 06:49 PM

Use the Excel version, it is much easier to navigate thanks to JDieck's modifications.

Quote:

Originally posted by Snowboarda42
Nice!

Constructive Criticism - Maybe take the black bar at the top that tells what each column means and put it at the top of each company category. Its kinda annoying to have to jump back up to the top to see what number means what. Just a thought...

FishAreFriends2 · 12/10/2007, 06:50 PM

Where did you gather the info from for the actual size rating of the tank?

12/10/2007, 01:16 PM	#1
RobbyG Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 600 Ft From the Reef Posts: 2,099	The Skimmer Comparison Chart About 6 months ago I was contacted by RC member Straegen and asked if I could Upgrade and Host a Skimmer chart he had put together. He wanted other RC members to benefit from the chart. So over the next few months I added Pictures to the Chart and reformatted the style so as to put it more in line with the controller comparison chart. Then to finish things off RC member jdeick added his expert excel touches and DavidRyder reworked the web page to accommodate the chart. So now I would like to share with you the work and efforts of all involved, and I would like to specially acknowledge the man who put together the core data, RC member Straegen. Here is the Link for the Skimmer Comparison Chart. http://www.aquariumcontrollers.com/a...p#skimmerchart I hope this make purchasing a protien skimmer a little easier and if you have any questions about all these various models of protien skimmers, possibly Straegen will come by and answer some questions, also there are numerous skimmer experts on RC who I hope will stay close to this thread and offer assistance. As you can imagine with a chart this big there will be some mistakes in the first version so please post anything that you find.

12/10/2007, 02:10 PM	#3
RobbyG Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 600 Ft From the Reef Posts: 2,099	Thanks. __________________ The Optimist says the glass is half full, the Pessimist says it’s half empty, an engineer only see's a glass that’s twice as big as it needs to be! Current Tank Info: Insanely Automated Low Power Consumption 90 Gal Oceanic Bow System/Aquatronica Touch Controller/AQ Dosing Pump/AQT LEDS/AQ SMS/Seq Dart Pump/ASM G3/Ozotech Ozonizer/Koralin 1502/Chiller/Typhoon3 Ro/S.Squirt /Phos React/Rmt DSB

12/10/2007, 02:17 PM	#5
Snowboarda42 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 1,094	Nice! Constructive Criticism - Maybe take the black bar at the top that tells what each column means and put it at the top of each company category. Its kinda annoying to have to jump back up to the top to see what number means what. Just a thought... __________________ 40B Mixed Reef 100% Captive Grown Corals See, that's the trouble with the world today. Not enough danger to kill off stupid people before they get old enough to breed. Bring back lawn darts! -PrivateJoker64 Current Tank Info: 40B, 20L Sump/Fuge, Mag 9.5 Return, 2x Hydor Koralia #2's, 150W 14K HQI, 139W T-5, Euro-Reef RS-80P Mesh Modded, 40LB LR, 80LB LS, 54x Turnover, Mostly SPS, Some Softys Too.

12/10/2007, 02:19 PM	#6
killagoby Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Monroe, NJ Posts: 2,150	Nice! __________________ How much money did you spend on that rock again?

12/10/2007, 02:21 PM	#7
davidryder Claris or Elliot? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nightopia Posts: 2,750	Yes feedback is most certainly welcome! __________________ A rolling stone gathers no moss... Current Tank Info: 90g mixed reef, corner overflow (Mag 9.5), 25g refugium (Mag 5), 15g refugium, Orbit 260w pc, Pan World 50PX-X (Closed loop), AquaC EV-120 (now skimmerless)

12/10/2007, 01:28 PM	#2
Straegen Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 59	Looks incredible. You guys did a great job cleaning it up.

12/10/2007, 02:14 PM	#4
USC-fan Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,626	FYI- need to check the prices some are wrong.

12/10/2007, 03:04 PM	#9
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	You also need to change the rating of the remora pro to a 29g or less ; ) Looks nice and with the proper feedback you will get a nice comparison chart. For the via aqua's the sk200's are recommended at 100g, i'd recommend them for up to a 65g tank. the sk388's are recomended up to a 150g tank. I would suggest a 100g or smaller. Prices for both are 89sk200 and 115 sk388. Thats my start

12/10/2007, 03:09 PM	#10
RobbyG Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 600 Ft From the Reef Posts: 2,099	Thanks Luke33 After a few days and I get enough corrected data, I will go in and fix the problems. __________________ The Optimist says the glass is half full, the Pessimist says it’s half empty, an engineer only see's a glass that’s twice as big as it needs to be! Current Tank Info: Insanely Automated Low Power Consumption 90 Gal Oceanic Bow System/Aquatronica Touch Controller/AQ Dosing Pump/AQT LEDS/AQ SMS/Seq Dart Pump/ASM G3/Ozotech Ozonizer/Koralin 1502/Chiller/Typhoon3 Ro/S.Squirt /Phos React/Rmt DSB

12/10/2007, 03:31 PM	#11
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	I'll try and take a look at it more after i get off work. I think it can be a great piece for beginners if done correctly.

12/10/2007, 03:46 PM	#13
FishAreFriends2 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,163	I think the octopus hob skimmer bh100/f are higher than 40gallons for actual ratings. Its more like 55gallons, I own a bh100 and I'm getting great skimmate any higher I wouldnt recommend. Theres one reefer who has the bh100 on a 90gallon which is too much but hes getting serious skimmate, so the actual rating should be a 55gallon. And the price of the BH100f is wrong. It cost 141.99 at reefstop average is 150. It also comes with a surface skimming box and pumps in the back chamber. I don't see the rogue up there. Last edited by FishAreFriends2; 12/10/2007 at 03:55 PM.

12/10/2007, 03:49 PM	#14
bhdmc Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York Posts: 956	Thanks for the great work.

12/10/2007, 03:58 PM	#15
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	One thing i think would be super helpful would be another field for airdraw. That would be excellent. Because when comparing a skimmer to a skimmer one could pull 40scfh and the other 10scfh and there the same size, shape similar gph pump and whatnot.

12/10/2007, 04:04 PM	#16
FishAreFriends2 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,163	Does that involve mods?

12/10/2007, 04:08 PM	#17
fahadahmed Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale Heights, IL (Chicago) Posts: 427	This might be complex but it would be REALLY cool to have some kind of rating system. Something lest complex would be "Editor's Choice" where you can give a personal recommendation about a certain skimmers. Really cool chart!!! Kudos! __________________ I ride because... Motorcycles KILL billions of bugs every year! Current Tank Info: FOWLR - 125g 100lbs LR, Sump, 25W UV, 260w PC lights & Euro-Reef 135 Skimmer -

12/10/2007, 04:48 PM	#19
chrissreef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,252	Very nice!! Comments...Where's orca/reeflo, MTC, DAS, or those cone skimmers? I didn't check if the new octo xtreme's are there. Personally I'd like general gallon categories because it's inconvenient to filter it down by 12, 29, 30, 40, 90 etc. etc. i.e. 0-50g 50-100, 100-150, 150-250, 250-400, 400+ edit: I just saw your note on RK3... I'm building my tank now... can you give me a ballpark range or availability date on this? i.e. $250-400? 1st quarter '08 release? etc. Thanks! __________________ One's standard of living is determined by the size of their reef Learn and you continue to adapt, stop learning and you become obsolete We live with each other, not for ourselves, protect our planet Current Tank Info: 300g Starfire/Starboard A.G.E. mixed reef

12/10/2007, 04:58 PM	#20
chrissreef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,252	just saw the XWave controller by PCI - not sure if it works with all powerheads but wanted to mention it. Great site! __________________ One's standard of living is determined by the size of their reef Learn and you continue to adapt, stop learning and you become obsolete We live with each other, not for ourselves, protect our planet Current Tank Info: 300g Starfire/Starboard A.G.E. mixed reef

12/10/2007, 05:30 PM	#22
xparky Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 7	Great job guys. I wish there was a tool like this to aid me when I was looking for skimmer. Just bought skimmer a month back I can recognize the value this sheet brings.

12/10/2007, 06:50 PM	#25
FishAreFriends2 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,163	Where did you gather the info from for the actual size rating of the tank?