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Old 03/19/2006, 10:02 PM   #1
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My New 400 Gallon [Attention Equipment Junkies!]

Its been quite a journey. Early last year I started acquiring equipment for what for me would be the most up to date efficient tank I could possibly design arrange. Instead of trying to buy all the equipment at once and get divorce I picked up pieces of equipment here and there.

Tank 84x36x30
My tank was manufactured by Innovative Aquariums in Washington. The tricky part here was I wanted no streams or circ devices showing. Mojoreef helped me out with the early design. I came up with CL return ducts that surround both overflows. In theory they work just like A/C ducts to distribute CL suction and disch evenly. Down side here was they took up a lot of room.

Filtration

Well here is most of the cash...Some were bought on ebay some used someflown straight from Germany...

250 External BK skimmer
2-10m3 Red Dragon Pumps [one on a CL and one on sump water return]
1-Red Dragon 12m3 [main CL]
OM 4way
Deltec PF600 Ca Reactor
Deltec FR616 Fluidized Bed
Deltec KM500s Kalk Stirrer
Ozotech250
Aquatronica

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Photon 4x250 8xT5 39w. The uber light straight from Germany.....

Rock
So far 450 of Totoka LR.

Preparations for the tank kinda drug along through 2005. The person who built the 2" tubular steel stand moved overseas so I had to find someone to finish the stand. Then in September Hurrican Rita completely took out all fish in my 215RR.

Its been a long journey. It became apparent early on that a fish room wasn't feasible so all the equipment is under the stand which was challenging to say the least.

I welcome your questions or comments.I will try to explain the plumbing/tank design as we go enjoy.....

First set of pictures is from around a month ago......











The BK working on the Live Rock



Plumbing nightmare, I'm kinda a control freak.I wanted valves on everything





Older Picture with old tank in backround




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Old 03/19/2006, 10:09 PM   #2
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Overflow Box, Sump return in center CL Dishcarge on sides.


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Dont have a good picture of the other end, same concept. Two side boxes for CL suction. One centered in front of sump return box is CL2. Can see a bit of it here








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Old 03/19/2006, 10:19 PM   #3
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wow definately an equipment junkies wet dream... So when do you plan on throwing some coral in there?


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Old 03/19/2006, 10:26 PM   #4
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Now updated pictures....

Tank is shown with T5's only. New ballast boxes being built by Icecap to arrive this week.







Cleaned up a bit in stand



Ca Reactor installed [not a great picture]



Other side of stand





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Old 03/19/2006, 10:58 PM   #5
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Awsome setup......What type of live rock is that?....Kaleani?


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Old 03/19/2006, 11:41 PM   #6
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Wow, I wish I had the patience to take that long to acquire equipment, I'd probably have the stuff I want not the stuff I settled for. Very nice setup!!


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Old 03/20/2006, 01:38 AM   #7
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Love the LR aquascaping and the towers and how you've hid them. BRAVO!!!


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Old 03/20/2006, 01:44 AM   #8
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Awsome,

Just @ 4-5 thousand under the tank in filtration, reactors, and BK plus the ozone. What controller are your using or going to use with all that?


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Old 03/20/2006, 01:45 AM   #9
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oops I just finished reading your equipment list aquatronica controller.


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Old 03/20/2006, 02:24 AM   #10
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That is one CLEAN setup. I love your valvework.


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Old 03/20/2006, 02:31 PM   #11
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Looking good. How did you attach the rocks to the overflows? Or did you just stack them around them and hope they don't fall.

I had the same idea for doing my center overflow in my 400.


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Old 03/20/2006, 03:45 PM   #12
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Very impressive! Keep us updated with more pics when you can!


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Old 03/20/2006, 05:24 PM   #13
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Thanks for all the kind words.

Corals are about a month off, I want to cycle the rock completely siphon off detritus and add a substrate. Before that happens I'll also probably do a near 100% water change as well. Which will in a word, suck.

The rock was placed by me, by hand in the tank. I used a case of the Deltec epoxy. To be honest I wasnt impressed with it very much. I relocated some rock that was epoxied a month ago and the epoxy was the consistency of gum or clay. Not very hard at all. When I do the big water change I am going to try a German product I've been hearing about.

Also with good life rock like this is, you really can wedge it together. Which is scary but works. Scary because you actually
have to beat it into place and the rocks wedge together. Being coral skeletons it wedges together well. I just cant afford a landslide on the main CL tower. Acrylic doesnt forgive much.

Anyone doing a room divider or three side viewable should really consider turning the overflow to a diamond shape. I really like it.

The discharge ducts are designed around a 1.5" BH. I did this to be able to run a flow and not pressure pump in the application.
Downside to this was size, which really turned out okay considering what I was able to accomplish with the rock.

BTW two tips for anyone planning,plumbing a large tank.

1-Use the Savko BH's. Even the Haywards I have arent that impressive. IMO

2-Never ever ever silicone a BH gasket.


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Old 03/20/2006, 08:45 PM   #14
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Where did you get your rock from?? I really like it.


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Old 03/20/2006, 08:49 PM   #15
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Hey Kris,
Great Kick A.. equipment!!! how is that Kalk reacor working for you ia m conisdering getting oen myself?


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Old 03/20/2006, 09:21 PM   #16
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The rock is from Fijian area called Totoka. Marine Center I believe carries it online.

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Wish I could help you bro, get back to me this weekend. Really sound design though. I had no luck with the MRC/Stir bar version.


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Old 03/20/2006, 09:23 PM   #17
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Yeah, i heard a lot of people are not loving hte MRC kalk reactor.


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Old 03/20/2006, 10:16 PM   #18
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Once again, looks nice. Time for some frags! Tank tours, tank tours!


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Old 03/21/2006, 09:55 AM   #19
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Is that were you got your rock from?


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Old 03/21/2006, 01:12 PM   #20
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Nice Job. I really like the lights. That looks like as really thin fixture to me. Very cool.
I also like the overflow with the return areas. Very neat.

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Old 03/21/2006, 02:10 PM   #21
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Incredible setup kris4647 !

I'm an equipement junkie so for me this setup is to drool for !

Wondering if you could comment on the Red Dragon pumps you use for your close-loop ? Are they strong enough, are they worth it ?

Also, just wondering if your happy with your BK 250..it seems to be performing wonderfully !


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Old 03/21/2006, 04:05 PM   #22
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Looking great Kris What sort of livestock plans do you have for this tank?

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Old 03/21/2006, 05:44 PM   #23
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Ginzo.
The Dragons are really impressive. I really like the 10's they push a ton of water and are dead silent. The 12 is great but humms more than I thought it would. I am discussing this with Gary [at Captive Oceans] and Klaus to see if I may have an impeller issue. I was genuinely surprised but the amt of flow into the tank from both pumps. The draw is more like 170w for the 12 and around a 100w for the 10 btw.

The BK is as billed. The best skimmer I have owned or seen [pulls 40watts!]. I bought it used early last year when they were pretty hard to come by; hence the size is smaller than I would go for now, but I'm pretty confident it can handle the tank. I also couldn't really afford to use anything with a larger footprint in my stand.

The downside is there though. The parts for the BK are hard to come by, the folks at Captive Oceans have bent over backwards for me when something comes up, but at times the supply just isn't there. Even the piping is rough. All metric. The silicone adapters on the pumps help out here a bit. I personally screwed
up the drain piping on the BK and had to end up ordering fittings from Canada. You cant just go to Home Depot to fix a problem.


Brandon I have no clue . Probably sps but I cant make it without my anemones and clownfish. So pretty mixed.


Alien I was wondering if anyone would notice the lights. They are just like the BK. Very well engineered. I believe Photon made their stateside debut at the last Macna. Expensive though.


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Old 03/21/2006, 05:54 PM   #24
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I bet they are exoensive...but what isnt lol. The lights themselves look great and make your tank even better. Great job kris. Im tagging along if you dont midn lol.

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Old 03/21/2006, 06:33 PM   #25
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I am buying rock right now for my 360gl and I REALLY like your rock. IS MARINE CENTER WERE YOU BOUGHT YOURS FROM??? I didn't really get an answer from you. You answered everyone else but the easiest question. PLEASE let me know. Thanks


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