RVANANO's 300 peninsula reef build - Page 3

RVANANO · 03/31/2014, 05:48 PM

3 syllables I never want to hear. I've got my blowtorch ready, John.

RVANANO · 04/02/2014, 05:41 PM

It's in place and looks great!! Although I noticed that there are slight gaps b/t the tank and stand on each end. Not sure if the metal will deflect a little in the center when filled or if I should put a piece of plywood in place first etc. Any thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I decided to push it to the right b/c it seemed pointless to have in centered and only have 30" on each side. Especially since one side is completely closed off. The builder came over to get measurements for the floor to ceiling cabinetry that will skin the frame.

KafudaFish · 04/02/2014, 05:50 PM

That looks ok at best I guess.

Nice try though.

RVANANO · 04/02/2014, 05:56 PM

I knew you wouldn't be pleased, Mike. I have listed the tank on craigslist and will start over

RVANANO · 04/02/2014, 06:13 PM

Was reading that I should put plywood b/t the tank and stand and then shim b/t the stand and ply.

johnike · 04/02/2014, 06:22 PM

Freakin ameteur.

KafudaFish · 04/02/2014, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVANANO

I knew you wouldn't be pleased, Mike. I have listed the tank on craigslist and will start over

Your wife thinks that is for the best you know.

RVANANO · 04/02/2014, 06:47 PM

She said no more sammich's and beers until the tank is finished

KafudaFish · 04/02/2014, 08:09 PM

Wow hardball man.

Go play with Greyson then.

Misled · 04/02/2014, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVANANO

She said no more sammich's and beers until the tank is finished

That's horrible!!! I've been working on getting my hands on a rootbeer float. KafudaMike mentioned having a rasberry float the other day and man did I get some cravings. I'm gonna get me one by the weekend.

KafudaFish · 04/02/2014, 08:38 PM

I guess we shouldn't tell Jesse I was having a birch beer and vanilla ice cream float earlier then huh?

Ambition · 04/02/2014, 08:50 PM

Brandon, I don't know much about larger tanks, but would ply with some of the insulation board/foam work at all? The board being a little bit thicker than what most typically use under smaller tanks with the larger weight of your tank.

Misled · 04/02/2014, 08:53 PM

RVANANO · 04/03/2014, 05:26 AM

^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambition

Brandon, I don't know much about larger tanks, but would ply with some of the insulation board/foam work at all? The board being a little bit thicker than what most typically use under smaller tanks with the larger weight of your tank.

Kyle,
I have been told foam is a no no under a rimmed tank. I like the idea of both though.

KafudaFish · 04/03/2014, 06:23 AM

All joking aside or just to the back of the line, the thing that this has going is location.

No matter where you are in that part of the house you get to enjoy it. Too often people have spectacular systems that are somewhere that the owner has to go see. If it is too far away and life changes the system suffers and we all know that can mean a dry tank.

RVANANO · 04/03/2014, 06:52 AM

Thanks, Mike. I couldn't agree more. That was the goal with the house design and with the choice to go penninsula. I literally chose that house b/c when I walked into another he was building with the same plan, I immediately knew that was the perfect tank location. Then I just told to add a 3 car garage with room for lift

I really had a hard time deciding whether to center the tank in b/t the columns or push it up to the one side but I think this is the best location for keeping the house open and for the best views. And once it's all built in floor to ceiling, it will look like that was the original plan.

I have two things I need to address before water. One is the 4 holes in the bottom. 2 on each end from the original corner overflows. I was going to use bulkheads and plugs but the threads on the bulkheads barely touch the metal frame below. So I am going to silicone glass to the top and bottom instead. The other are the 1/16" gaps on each side. My builder is bringing me a piece of ply and foam insulation cut to size. I am liking Kyle's idea of foam then ply then tank and if need be, I can still try and shim. Unless anyone can tell me why that may be a bad idea or if there is a better one.

KafudaFish · 04/03/2014, 07:04 AM

My only regret is I didn't post on Tuesday. That would have been fun.

Do you have a rock plan and stock list on excel yet?

Misled · 04/03/2014, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVANANO

I really had a hard time deciding whether to center the tank in b/t the columns or push it up to the one side but I think this is the best location for keeping the house open and for the best views. And once it's all built in floor to ceiling, it will look like that was the original plan.

I like where you have it against the pillar. This gives a better walk through area. I also like that the opening/walk through is on the kitchen side.

RVANANO · 04/03/2014, 07:43 AM

The rock plan is 2 islands like my usual. But that's about it. Really haven't started working on stock list either. I just know I want another Majestic Angel.

After reading some more on here, it seems the foam really is a no beuno so my only option is 3/4 cabinet grade ply and shims. So nervous about a tank this size.

RVANANO · 04/03/2014, 07:52 AM

The frame builder just sent me a message when I asked him if it would deflect enough in the middle to bring it level.

And just a background, he is an industrial welder that now overseas pipe welding for chemical companies. The welds/specs have to be critically precise and are all x=ray'd etc.

Yes on the deflection. The intent is to have positive camber in the middle to achieve flatness when loaded. I worked my structural engineer (friend, too) on what we could to to mitigate the deflection.

Mhay · 04/03/2014, 08:30 AM

Off topic: I am in LOVE with your flooring.

RVANANO · 04/03/2014, 08:33 AM

Thanks, Maggie. It's my favorite part of the house. It's character grade 3 1/4" Hickory site finished. I couldn't even get a sample b/c it's an odd flooring. Most people actually don't want it b/c there are lots of knots, color variations and small length boards. Which made it only a little bit more expensive than 2 3/4" standard oak.

Ratpack · 04/03/2014, 08:46 AM

This is going to be an awesome build. That is the exact same tank size I plan to have when I am able to upgrade. Maybe in a few years, but for now I will enjoy yours!

Mhay · 04/03/2014, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVANANO

Thanks, Maggie. It's my favorite part of the house. It's character grade 3 1/4" Hickory site finished. I couldn't even get a sample b/c it's an odd flooring. Most people actually don't want it b/c there are lots of knots, color variations and small length boards. Which made it only a little bit more expensive than 2 3/4" standard oak.

That's what makes it beautiful! I think I have found the flooring we are going to do in the kitchen!

RVANANO · 04/03/2014, 08:56 AM

I have heard that a lot lately

If you like wood, you love it. If you aren't a fan, it probably makes you want to puke. I would imagine an OCD person would have a panic attack in there too.

03/31/2014, 05:48 PM	#51
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	3 syllables I never want to hear. I've got my blowtorch ready, John. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/02/2014, 05:41 PM	#52
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	It's in place and looks great!! Although I noticed that there are slight gaps b/t the tank and stand on each end. Not sure if the metal will deflect a little in the center when filled or if I should put a piece of plywood in place first etc. Any thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I decided to push it to the right b/c it seemed pointless to have in centered and only have 30" on each side. Especially since one side is completely closed off. The builder came over to get measurements for the floor to ceiling cabinetry that will skin the frame. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/02/2014, 05:56 PM	#54
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	I knew you wouldn't be pleased, Mike. I have listed the tank on craigslist and will start over __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/02/2014, 06:13 PM	#55
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	Was reading that I should put plywood b/t the tank and stand and then shim b/t the stand and ply. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/02/2014, 06:47 PM	#58
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	She said no more sammich's and beers until the tank is finished __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/02/2014, 05:50 PM	#53
KafudaFish Cyprinius carpio Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,496	That looks ok at best I guess. Nice try though.

04/02/2014, 06:22 PM	#56
johnike Moved On Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bureau County Illinois Posts: 5,406	Freakin ameteur.

04/02/2014, 08:09 PM	#59
KafudaFish Cyprinius carpio Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,496	Wow hardball man. Go play with Greyson then.

04/02/2014, 08:38 PM	#61
KafudaFish Cyprinius carpio Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,496	I guess we shouldn't tell Jesse I was having a birch beer and vanilla ice cream float earlier then huh?

04/02/2014, 08:50 PM	#62
Ambition Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,138	Brandon, I don't know much about larger tanks, but would ply with some of the insulation board/foam work at all? The board being a little bit thicker than what most typically use under smaller tanks with the larger weight of your tank. __________________ Kyle A day off? That's an illusion. Current Tank Info: 460+ Gallons in the making

04/02/2014, 08:53 PM	#63
Misled RC Mod Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 11,440 Blog Entries: 11	__________________ Jesse I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm just saying nobody has ever seen me and Batman in a room together.

04/03/2014, 06:23 AM	#65
KafudaFish Cyprinius carpio Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,496	All joking aside or just to the back of the line, the thing that this has going is location. No matter where you are in that part of the house you get to enjoy it. Too often people have spectacular systems that are somewhere that the owner has to go see. If it is too far away and life changes the system suffers and we all know that can mean a dry tank.

04/03/2014, 06:52 AM	#66
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	Thanks, Mike. I couldn't agree more. That was the goal with the house design and with the choice to go penninsula. I literally chose that house b/c when I walked into another he was building with the same plan, I immediately knew that was the perfect tank location. Then I just told to add a 3 car garage with room for lift I really had a hard time deciding whether to center the tank in b/t the columns or push it up to the one side but I think this is the best location for keeping the house open and for the best views. And once it's all built in floor to ceiling, it will look like that was the original plan. I have two things I need to address before water. One is the 4 holes in the bottom. 2 on each end from the original corner overflows. I was going to use bulkheads and plugs but the threads on the bulkheads barely touch the metal frame below. So I am going to silicone glass to the top and bottom instead. The other are the 1/16" gaps on each side. My builder is bringing me a piece of ply and foam insulation cut to size. I am liking Kyle's idea of foam then ply then tank and if need be, I can still try and shim. Unless anyone can tell me why that may be a bad idea or if there is a better one. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/03/2014, 07:04 AM	#67
KafudaFish Cyprinius carpio Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,496	My only regret is I didn't post on Tuesday. That would have been fun. Do you have a rock plan and stock list on excel yet?

04/03/2014, 07:43 AM	#69
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	The rock plan is 2 islands like my usual. But that's about it. Really haven't started working on stock list either. I just know I want another Majestic Angel. After reading some more on here, it seems the foam really is a no beuno so my only option is 3/4 cabinet grade ply and shims. So nervous about a tank this size. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/03/2014, 07:52 AM	#70
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	The frame builder just sent me a message when I asked him if it would deflect enough in the middle to bring it level. And just a background, he is an industrial welder that now overseas pipe welding for chemical companies. The welds/specs have to be critically precise and are all x=ray'd etc. Yes on the deflection. The intent is to have positive camber in the middle to achieve flatness when loaded. I worked my structural engineer (friend, too) on what we could to to mitigate the deflection. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/03/2014, 08:30 AM	#71
Mhay Crazy Cat Lady Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 468	Off topic: I am in LOVE with your flooring. __________________ Maggie Current Tank Info: Coralife Biocube 29

04/03/2014, 08:33 AM	#72
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	Thanks, Maggie. It's my favorite part of the house. It's character grade 3 1/4" Hickory site finished. I couldn't even get a sample b/c it's an odd flooring. Most people actually don't want it b/c there are lots of knots, color variations and small length boards. Which made it only a little bit more expensive than 2 3/4" standard oak. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress Last edited by RVANANO; 04/03/2014 at 08:52 AM.

04/03/2014, 08:46 AM	#73
Ratpack Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 709	This is going to be an awesome build. That is the exact same tank size I plan to have when I am able to upgrade. Maybe in a few years, but for now I will enjoy yours!

04/03/2014, 08:56 AM	#75
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	I have heard that a lot lately If you like wood, you love it. If you aren't a fan, it probably makes you want to puke. I would imagine an OCD person would have a panic attack in there too. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress