My City water quality report

Bioguy7 · 08/18/2019, 06:18 AM

Hi All, I am a newbie and am setting up a 125G reef tank. I have read through this forum and understand that RODI water is vital. But just for discussion sake here is my city water report. Say I use a water conditioner to remove the chloramines, would this water be OK for the initial setup. I do plan to use distilled water for subsequent regular top-off maintenance, as I have access to DI water at my work place but only 2 gallons at a time.

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Oldreeferman · 08/18/2019, 11:42 AM

Everything over time is accumulative that you add that does not get used up by the fish or corals or Coralline algae. This is why city water isn't recommended has too many contaminants, its not just a chlorine issue or else one could just add a neutralizer for that.
Id start with RODI & stick with it, i use distilled water myself for top offs that idea i like myself adds nothing to the tank but what evaporated.

tkeracer619 · 08/18/2019, 12:32 PM

Chloramines are a combination of ammonia and chlorine. Prime will break the bond between the two, neutralize the chlorine, and convert the ammonia to from free to bound. The ammonia will still remain and unless something can uptake it, it will remain until the tank can process it into nitrates.

I would advise against using tap in this instance. Also, if you do purchase an RODI, you will need to take extra steps regarding chloramines. Standard units are inadequate.

Uncle99 · 08/18/2019, 12:36 PM

I don't see phosphates on the chart and that one builds and Feeds GHA.
Also some metals, they will accumulate as well.

That's a sizable tank. Since water quality is paramount, I take no risks by removing everything to 0 TDS, and putting back only what I want.

Set up and cycling is a critical step, you can use conditioned tap water but you'll likely pay later in cleaning up those same organics you did not remove from the water.

Having access to 0 TDS water is an important consideration. For $100, cheapest insurance ever.

bertoni · 08/18/2019, 03:43 PM

The ammonia from the chloramine would be a very minor nutrient addition to the tank. The primary issue is what might be in the water, either currently or in the future, that is toxic. Cities sometimes treat water with anti-corrosion chemicals, including zinc, I believe, that can be very toxic. Also, copper can leach from the plumbing in your house.

All that said, it's reasonably likely that your tank will be okay, at least for a while, with tap water. Still, I chose to use RO/DI out of general caution. I know of successful tanks that are run with tap water, but we've also had reports of tanks that were fine until the city ran some zinc in the system, and killed everything.

Bioguy7 · 08/31/2019, 07:50 AM

Thanks all for the feedback. Got an Aquatic Life buddy RODI system today.

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Uncle99 · 08/31/2019, 08:07 AM

Good decision
I have same two years now.
I still use 1ml per 10 gallons prime after DI stage.

08/18/2019, 06:18 AM	#1
Bioguy7 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 34	My City water quality report Hi All, I am a newbie and am setting up a 125G reef tank. I have read through this forum and understand that RODI water is vital. But just for discussion sake here is my city water report. Say I use a water conditioner to remove the chloramines, would this water be OK for the initial setup. I do plan to use distilled water for subsequent regular top-off maintenance, as I have access to DI water at my work place but only 2 gallons at a time. Sent from my SM-N960W using Tapatalk

08/18/2019, 11:42 AM	#2
Oldreeferman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: NW Indiana Valparaiso Posts: 505	Everything over time is accumulative that you add that does not get used up by the fish or corals or Coralline algae. This is why city water isn't recommended has too many contaminants, its not just a chlorine issue or else one could just add a neutralizer for that. Id start with RODI & stick with it, i use distilled water myself for top offs that idea i like myself adds nothing to the tank but what evaporated. __________________ Montipora Digitas, Cyphastrea, Blastos, different Leptoseris, Green Stylo, GSP, gorgonions, Ricordea mushrooms, psammocoras, Birdsnest coral, Clownfish, Watchman goby, Royal gamma. Current Tank Info: Nano Reef tank

08/18/2019, 12:32 PM	#3
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Chloramines are a combination of ammonia and chlorine. Prime will break the bond between the two, neutralize the chlorine, and convert the ammonia to from free to bound. The ammonia will still remain and unless something can uptake it, it will remain until the tank can process it into nitrates. I would advise against using tap in this instance. Also, if you do purchase an RODI, you will need to take extra steps regarding chloramines. Standard units are inadequate. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

08/18/2019, 12:36 PM	#4
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	I don't see phosphates on the chart and that one builds and Feeds GHA. Also some metals, they will accumulate as well. That's a sizable tank. Since water quality is paramount, I take no risks by removing everything to 0 TDS, and putting back only what I want. Set up and cycling is a critical step, you can use conditioned tap water but you'll likely pay later in cleaning up those same organics you did not remove from the water. Having access to 0 TDS water is an important consideration. For $100, cheapest insurance ever. Last edited by Uncle99; 08/18/2019 at 12:47 PM.

08/18/2019, 03:43 PM	#5
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	The ammonia from the chloramine would be a very minor nutrient addition to the tank. The primary issue is what might be in the water, either currently or in the future, that is toxic. Cities sometimes treat water with anti-corrosion chemicals, including zinc, I believe, that can be very toxic. Also, copper can leach from the plumbing in your house. All that said, it's reasonably likely that your tank will be okay, at least for a while, with tap water. Still, I chose to use RO/DI out of general caution. I know of successful tanks that are run with tap water, but we've also had reports of tanks that were fine until the city ran some zinc in the system, and killed everything. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

08/31/2019, 07:50 AM	#6
Bioguy7 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 34	Thanks all for the feedback. Got an Aquatic Life buddy RODI system today. Sent from my SM-N960W using Tapatalk

08/31/2019, 08:07 AM	#7
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Good decision I have same two years now. I still use 1ml per 10 gallons prime after DI stage.