4g Frag Tank

Lakejoery · 01/13/2018, 05:59 PM

I have a 40g tank that has been going for the last 3 months, slowly filling with coral

. But I had the idea of getting a frag tank, so I found the 10g oceanbox designs frag tank. It is small which is what I am looking for, just for zoas and lps, maybe a monti. I am wondering if I should get a protein skimmer for it? Should I put in a simple small fish, or an invert for bioload? Would it be smart to put live rock rubble in the back chamber for bio filtration? What type of light should I get? I was thinking a Kessil A80 or an AI Prime. Any advice appreciated. I know so many questions.

Lakejoery · 01/13/2018, 06:32 PM

I am just looking for a low maintenance frag tank

PhishyRupert · 01/13/2018, 06:49 PM

If it’s simple coral I don’t see a huge issue but you will be topping off like crazy from Evap. Harder coral needing stable levels will be more
Of a challenge

Lakejoery · 01/13/2018, 06:54 PM

Makes sense and i plan to get an ato

Lakejoery · 01/13/2018, 07:35 PM

Do you think I could pull of some LPS? I love LPS, I need a place to grow out the pieces.

DreadCapn · 01/13/2018, 07:35 PM

Do you have a sump for your 40g? If you do, hooking the 4 gallon into your existing system is the best way to go by far.

Lakejoery · 01/13/2018, 07:44 PM

I don't have a sump for it. It would be a stand alone, but I saw they had a 7g frag tank, would that make a huge difference

Lakejoery · 01/13/2018, 08:45 PM

Or even a 10 if its worth double the price

pfan151 · 01/13/2018, 10:33 PM

4 gal is pretty useless IMO. Get the 10 if you can afford it and even that is probably not a great option if it won’t be hooked up to a bigger system.

Just looked up the price. Paying $150 for a 4gal tank with basically a false wall and powerhead is nuts. Just buy a 10g tank and HOB filter and you’ll have a bigger tank for a quarter of the price.

Lakejoery · 01/13/2018, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfan151

4 gal is pretty useless IMO. Get the 10 if you can afford it and even that is probably not a great option if it won’t be hooked up to a bigger system.

I think thats what I will do. I just need a frag tank for soft and lps. Would you recommend I pick up a skimmer for it? Also what light would you recommend?

Reefpuck · 01/13/2018, 10:40 PM

Something that small is gonna be tough to keep stable. If you can plumb it into the main system somehow... that'd be best.

Lakejoery · 01/13/2018, 10:42 PM

I would if I could but its an AIO 40g

Lakejoery · 01/14/2018, 08:11 AM

I am currently considering what tank to get. However I still don't know if I should run a protein skimmer. If I should add a fish or invert for bioload. Also what type of light would be best? I was think AI Prime or Kessil A80

pfan151 · 01/14/2018, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakejoery

I am currently considering what tank to get. However I still don't know if I should run a protein skimmer. If I should add a fish or invert for bioload. Also what type of light would be best? I was think AI Prime or Kessil A80

Protein skimmer is not needed for a tank that small and with the corals you want to grow. Do a 2 gal water change per week and you’ll be fine.

Lakejoery · 01/14/2018, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfan151

Protein skimmer is not needed for a tank that small and with the corals you want to grow. Do a 2 gal water change per week and you’ll be fine.

What light would you recommend? I am also wondering if a 8 in deep tank is good enough? I can't find a 10in deep and I don't want to go deeper because it will be wasting water space, and require more powerful lighting. Would you recommend I add a bioload source?

Lakejoery · 01/14/2018, 09:35 PM

Anyone ^

Lakejoery · 01/17/2018, 09:42 PM

Anyone have any opinions on this nano frag tank idea?

01/13/2018, 05:59 PM	#1
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	4g Frag Tank I have a 40g tank that has been going for the last 3 months, slowly filling with coral . But I had the idea of getting a frag tank, so I found the 10g oceanbox designs frag tank. It is small which is what I am looking for, just for zoas and lps, maybe a monti. I am wondering if I should get a protein skimmer for it? Should I put in a simple small fish, or an invert for bioload? Would it be smart to put live rock rubble in the back chamber for bio filtration? What type of light should I get? I was thinking a Kessil A80 or an AI Prime. Any advice appreciated. I know so many questions. Last edited by Lakejoery; 01/14/2018 at 10:54 AM. Reason: Change in idea

01/13/2018, 07:35 PM	#6
DreadCapn Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tennessee Posts: 82	Do you have a sump for your 40g? If you do, hooking the 4 gallon into your existing system is the best way to go by far. __________________ 92g corner, 40b sump, 40b refugium Avast Pegleg Skimmer

01/13/2018, 10:40 PM	#11
Reefpuck Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Georgetown, TX Posts: 1,122	Something that small is gonna be tough to keep stable. If you can plumb it into the main system somehow... that'd be best. __________________ Josh Current Tank Info: 90g mixed reef w/ 55g sump/fuge.

01/13/2018, 06:32 PM	#2
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	I am just looking for a low maintenance frag tank

01/13/2018, 06:49 PM	#3
PhishyRupert Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 52	If it’s simple coral I don’t see a huge issue but you will be topping off like crazy from Evap. Harder coral needing stable levels will be more Of a challenge

01/13/2018, 06:54 PM	#4
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	Makes sense and i plan to get an ato

01/13/2018, 07:44 PM	#7
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	I don't have a sump for it. It would be a stand alone, but I saw they had a 7g frag tank, would that make a huge difference

01/13/2018, 08:45 PM	#8
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	Or even a 10 if its worth double the price

01/13/2018, 10:33 PM	#9
pfan151 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,897	4 gal is pretty useless IMO. Get the 10 if you can afford it and even that is probably not a great option if it won’t be hooked up to a bigger system. Just looked up the price. Paying $150 for a 4gal tank with basically a false wall and powerhead is nuts. Just buy a 10g tank and HOB filter and you’ll have a bigger tank for a quarter of the price.

01/13/2018, 10:42 PM	#12
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	I would if I could but its an AIO 40g

01/14/2018, 08:11 AM	#13
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	I am currently considering what tank to get. However I still don't know if I should run a protein skimmer. If I should add a fish or invert for bioload. Also what type of light would be best? I was think AI Prime or Kessil A80

01/14/2018, 09:35 PM	#16
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	Anyone ^

01/17/2018, 09:42 PM	#17
Lakejoery Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 100	Anyone have any opinions on this nano frag tank idea?