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Unread 10/20/2019, 11:25 PM   #1
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Palys taking over

Ahh, those green palys look so nice, I’ll take a few...
Fast forward 1 year: “OMG these palys are over taking all my other corals!!!”
I have a super low nutrient tank, just due to a crazy productive fuge. I send in ICP tests and get back that Nitrates are below detection levels. How do I rid myself of these palys, now that they are growing so much? Since they are on base rock, I can’t just replace the rock without a massive re-scape.


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Unread 10/21/2019, 04:35 AM   #2
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Nothing you can really do besides removing the rocks..

Use caution Palys can be very...very toxic.. Do not disturb them or they can/will release toxins into the water and air,etc...


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Unread 10/21/2019, 04:40 PM   #3
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Nothing you can really do besides removing the rocks..

Use caution Palys can be very...very toxic.. Do not disturb them or they can/will release toxins into the water and air,etc...

Amen to that!
I think unless your willing to restart over your sorta SOL from a safety standpoint except maybe if your brave & confident do this:

Only way id even consider it would be on a perfect weather day, ALL windows open..... with a window fan sucking towards the outside & a seriously good respirator for chemical toxins on along with to the armpits vinyl gloves, Vet style types. And then id remove all the offending rocks slowly & carefully to 5gal water filled buckets, then move them outside downwind with lids on them.
From there you can do whatever you want new rock in DT etc....Id personally pre treat the new dead rock for a few months first to fully cycle it then do all this after its ready to go in tank.
Then never add Palys again.............................


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Unread 10/22/2019, 01:17 PM   #4
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they are worst than aiptasia. nothing eats them!


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Unread 10/22/2019, 01:22 PM   #5
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I use a hypodermic needle filled with vinegar and hit one or 3 heads a day til the colony is gone.
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Unread 10/23/2019, 03:55 AM   #6
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amen to that!
I think unless your willing to restart over your sorta sol from a safety standpoint except maybe if your brave & confident do this:

Only way id even consider it would be on a perfect weather day, all windows open..... With a window fan sucking towards the outside & a seriously good respirator for chemical toxins on along with to the



armpits vinyl gloves, vet style types. And then id




remove all the offending rocks slowly & carefully to 5gal water filled buckets, then move them outside downwind with lids on them.
From there you can do whatever you want new rock in dt etc....id personally pre treat the new dead rock for a few months first to fully cycle it then do all this after its ready to go in tank.
Then never add palys again.............................
you make it sound like biochemical warfare!


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Unread 10/23/2019, 06:35 AM   #7
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Ask the ones on this forum who "survived" palytoxin & still are recovering & see what response they have to say about it..............Better to have & not need then to need & not have when Palytoxin may be involved. It IS biochemical warfare.........


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Unread 10/23/2019, 12:42 PM   #8
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I use a hypodermic needle filled with vinegar and hit one or 3 heads a day til the colony is gone.
Cheers! Mark
this, its a lot of work though. I ended up throwing another rock away. No more soft corals.


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Unread 10/27/2019, 09:15 AM   #9
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needle filled with vinegar, i actually use a feeder wand filled with vinegar .works well,


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Unread 10/28/2019, 07:50 AM   #10
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Good reminder to keep them isolated on their own island.


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Unread 10/28/2019, 10:25 AM   #11
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you make it sound like biochemical warfare!

Yes.. Its only one of the most poisonous substances known..


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Unread 10/28/2019, 02:45 PM   #12
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The EMT who googled it when they were getting me ready for transport me just said "damn that the second most deadly marine toxin known".

Yup I went through it. They will NEVER be in my tank again. They sure where pretty.


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This is what I do to get rid of various unwanted algaes and polyps:

https://youtu.be/QkABhAFhGKQ


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Ctenochaetus klienii

Just have to yank it after they all get eaten because they will start picking at LPS .


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Unread 11/12/2019, 02:24 PM   #15
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Uhm, wow, okay. HASMAT suit ordered....
Maybe these aren't what I think they are? I threw out a pretty big pile so far and escaped any poisoning.


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Ctenochaetus klienii

Just have to yank it after they all get eaten because they will start picking at LPS .
Chaetodon klienii, we can assume.


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Unread 11/12/2019, 05:39 PM   #17
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Chaetodon klienii, we can assume.
Chaetodon kleinii, if we're spell checking... I would be pretty nervous to introduce that, given I have a beautiful clam, hammer, rics, and some fun zoas.
or, I need to just give up the mixed tank idea and go all SPS.

Explain the vinegar idea. Just inject them with distilled vinegar, a few at a time? I don't have a needle. Just the one that came with my AiptasiaX bottle.


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Unread 11/13/2019, 06:23 PM   #18
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You can not kill....... a few years ago pulled all pally rock and left outside in freezing temps for 4 days.On the fifth day put rock in ro-di and vinegar .Then scrubbed the dead carcasses off. In a few months they started to pop out.Now it is a full blown invasion ........


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You can not kill....... a few years ago pulled all pally rock and left outside in freezing temps for 4 days.On the fifth day put rock in ro-di and vinegar .Then scrubbed the dead carcasses off. In a few months they started to pop out.Now it is a full blown invasion ........
I think we have all learned NOT to scrub the carcasses off.
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Unread 11/13/2019, 07:20 PM   #20
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these were quite dead /freezing cold for days/ vinegar and ro -di bath..


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Unread 11/13/2019, 09:50 PM   #21
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I guess I’ll have to take off and nuke ‘em from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.


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Unread 11/16/2019, 10:54 AM   #22
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I had to leave my rocks outside for a few months, when the rock turned white, and the carcasses easily rubbed off. I used my water hose outside to blow them off the rocks.

NOTHING eats or kills them.


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