Elegance coral

Budman422 · 12/24/2015, 10:37 AM

So as I have eluded to in another post my elegance collection is not doing good . I have 3 colonys of what I call budmans purple haze elegance that I frag 20 + times a year. That started off a colony from about 20 years ago. I also have a big pink tipped australian that I have had for 3 years. 2 green with blue tipped I got over 4 months ago and 1 bright electric green I got 2 months ago. All was going good until I added the last one . All my elegances look like death except the 2 blue tipped green ones. They had a white stringy cotton look to them all tentacles shrunk I lost a couple frags. Don't know if this is elegance coral disease or chemical warfare. Either way not good. I have seperated the new one that I suspected after the first month and they are slowly recovering. I have done a couple water changes and I am running my skimmer wet. I am also going to add carbon to a reactor.

TangingOut · 12/24/2015, 01:10 PM

That's terrible to hear. It's an amazing collection that you have and I hope you figure out what is happening and that they all recover.

You were the one that inspired me to frag my Australian which have recovered beautifully and have even started growing again.

180+55reef · 12/25/2015, 04:31 PM

Guessing your parameters are fine?

Budman422 · 12/25/2015, 06:14 PM

Yep all are good and all other corals in tank are good.

180+55reef · 12/25/2015, 06:20 PM

Make sure the alk is nine, this made all the difference to me

You motivated me so best if luck

Budman422 · 02/02/2016, 04:28 PM

So here is an update with pics. I removed the one that had ECD as it was not going to make it . My elegances are boucing back but slowly. Wish I would have taken pics and documented it. As I always doubted that as the problem now I believe. I did not lose any of my main pieces I did lose about 3 or 4 frags. These are the only elegance frags I have lost. All the white stringy cotton looking stuff is gone color is coming back and starting to expand better. Oddly enough two colonys did not even get phased and they were put in two months before.

Budman422 · 02/02/2016, 04:30 PM

Here are what they looked like before

And the one that caused the trouble

HammerLover · 02/02/2016, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budman422

Here are what they looked like before

And the one that caused the trouble

Those elegance were sick! Love that purple one ^u^

I'm gonna try that coral soon and hope that it will thrive in my tank

Dkuhlmann · 02/02/2016, 08:19 PM

Budman I'm glad to hear and see they're doing better.

I've got a question for you. My Elegance after one night when I fed it all of a sudden started to become Puffed up all over. Almost like it ingested a lot of water but kept it in. My parameters were good accept for nitrates. I had skipped a WC by over two weeks and was over feeding my fish and... Nitrates of 60-80.

Well I've started getting them down with 20% wc weekly instead of two weeks and started dosing NoPox. Still waiting for the NoPox to start working but I've got the nitrates down to around 20. The elegance is looking better but still puffy at times though not as bad and parts of it are faded in color. The tentacles on the best looking part are colorful and have their purple tips but the others are kinda clear with no purple tips.

I have done 3 dips in Revive and think it's helped. Any idea what happened or what I can do to help it out? I have not been feeding it since this happened but it does catch food floating around in the water. So it's better but not well yet. So any advice you can offer is much appreciated.

Budman422 · 02/03/2016, 05:24 AM

I have had mine puff up several times . I feed my tank heavy and it gets what it catches. I think your headed in the right direction. They can be a tricky coral that is slow to recover.

Dkuhlmann · 02/03/2016, 06:15 AM

Thanks for the info. I haven't done a dip in Revive in two or three weeks, do you think I should dip it again, or just wait it out?

Budman422 · 02/03/2016, 06:40 AM

I would wait it out. I don't like to stress them any more than they are

Dkuhlmann · 02/03/2016, 07:02 AM

Ok, thanks for your help. I'll just keep an eye on it and do nothing as long as it doesn't start getting worse.

I do notice during the day at some point it starts to shrink and I'm thinking from too much light. So I reduce my lighting when this happens. The other corals think it's night time and time to go to sleep LOL But my elegance expands more when I lower them. New lights coming today

Getting rid of the Chinese Black Box for a Ocean Revive Arctic T-247-B

Budman422 · 02/03/2016, 07:28 AM

It's easy to over illuminate them.

Dkuhlmann · 02/03/2016, 09:27 AM

Yes I found that out the hard way. When they want light they respond well and when they don't not so much...

Revo31 · 03/06/2016, 12:44 PM

I need help please….recommendations.
Running out of options….

90g reef Tank parameters:
Everything is good except Nitrates @ 40 ppm
Elegance coral about 2 months old.
Open fully when I got it.
For the past week, it starts to shrink and never open.
Brown Jelly coming out.

What I did.
Flatworm exit because I notice there are flat worms.
A few days later, Coral RX.
Yesterday, J Crow Iodine dip 10 drops for 1.5 liter.
Soak it for 45 seconds. Soak it in clean tank water for 1 1/2 min.
Put it back in tank. See attached picture of what it looks like now.

Microbacter7 dose:

March 1 to March 4 added 10ml MB7
March 5, 6 added 18ml MB7

Nitrates @ 40 ppm

Revo31 · 03/06/2016, 01:00 PM

In addition, I did water change:
Last Saturday Feb 27, 16g
yesterday, I added new 4g.

Revo31 · 03/06/2016, 01:04 PM

90g reef Tank Setup:
Reef octopus HOB skimmer
HOB Aqua clear power filter 30g; no carbon, only foam and Biomax

Budman422 · 03/07/2016, 03:06 PM

Put it in a place where it is partly shaded and leave it. These take forever to adjust.

micgloth18 · 03/17/2016, 10:40 AM

everyone says these corals are a hard to keep coral. Can you tell my why you are so successful.

Dkuhlmann · 03/17/2016, 05:23 PM

There are really no secrets to keeping most any coral, yet some are pickier than others and want stable water parameters. All you need to do is keep everything stable and give them what they require as far as flow, light and additional food. There are some exceptions to that but they are few really.

Budman422 · 03/20/2016, 10:30 AM

They are not hard to keep but hard to get acclimated. They take forever to finally adjust. You also have to get a good piece to start with. Once they are in your tank and stable they grow fast and open huge. Generally if you get one live past the 3 to 4 months then it will be healthy and live.

royceholder70 · 01/24/2018, 12:38 PM

So an update. I lost my aussie elegance with the pink tips. I have 3 huge green ones that need fragged. And the purple with green rim is fully recovered and starting to grow again. I left them alone and let them recover. Hopefully in 6 months or so they will be ready to frag again.

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12/24/2015, 10:37 AM	#1
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	Elegance coral So as I have eluded to in another post my elegance collection is not doing good . I have 3 colonys of what I call budmans purple haze elegance that I frag 20 + times a year. That started off a colony from about 20 years ago. I also have a big pink tipped australian that I have had for 3 years. 2 green with blue tipped I got over 4 months ago and 1 bright electric green I got 2 months ago. All was going good until I added the last one . All my elegances look like death except the 2 blue tipped green ones. They had a white stringy cotton look to them all tentacles shrunk I lost a couple frags. Don't know if this is elegance coral disease or chemical warfare. Either way not good. I have seperated the new one that I suspected after the first month and they are slowly recovering. I have done a couple water changes and I am running my skimmer wet. I am also going to add carbon to a reactor.

02/02/2016, 08:19 PM	#9
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Budman I'm glad to hear and see they're doing better. I've got a question for you. My Elegance after one night when I fed it all of a sudden started to become Puffed up all over. Almost like it ingested a lot of water but kept it in. My parameters were good accept for nitrates. I had skipped a WC by over two weeks and was over feeding my fish and... Nitrates of 60-80. Well I've started getting them down with 20% wc weekly instead of two weeks and started dosing NoPox. Still waiting for the NoPox to start working but I've got the nitrates down to around 20. The elegance is looking better but still puffy at times though not as bad and parts of it are faded in color. The tentacles on the best looking part are colorful and have their purple tips but the others are kinda clear with no purple tips. I have done 3 dips in Revive and think it's helped. Any idea what happened or what I can do to help it out? I have not been feeding it since this happened but it does catch food floating around in the water. So it's better but not well yet. So any advice you can offer is much appreciated. __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

02/03/2016, 06:15 AM	#11
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Thanks for the info. I haven't done a dip in Revive in two or three weeks, do you think I should dip it again, or just wait it out? __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

02/03/2016, 07:02 AM	#13
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Ok, thanks for your help. I'll just keep an eye on it and do nothing as long as it doesn't start getting worse. I do notice during the day at some point it starts to shrink and I'm thinking from too much light. So I reduce my lighting when this happens. The other corals think it's night time and time to go to sleep LOL But my elegance expands more when I lower them. New lights coming today Getting rid of the Chinese Black Box for a Ocean Revive Arctic T-247-B __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

02/03/2016, 09:27 AM	#15
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Yes I found that out the hard way. When they want light they respond well and when they don't not so much... __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

12/24/2015, 01:10 PM	#2
TangingOut Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,511	That's terrible to hear. It's an amazing collection that you have and I hope you figure out what is happening and that they all recover. You were the one that inspired me to frag my Australian which have recovered beautifully and have even started growing again.

12/25/2015, 04:31 PM	#3
180+55reef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New England Posts: 359	Guessing your parameters are fine?

12/25/2015, 06:14 PM	#4
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	Yep all are good and all other corals in tank are good.

12/25/2015, 06:20 PM	#5
180+55reef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New England Posts: 359	Make sure the alk is nine, this made all the difference to me You motivated me so best if luck

02/02/2016, 04:28 PM	#6
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	So here is an update with pics. I removed the one that had ECD as it was not going to make it . My elegances are boucing back but slowly. Wish I would have taken pics and documented it. As I always doubted that as the problem now I believe. I did not lose any of my main pieces I did lose about 3 or 4 frags. These are the only elegance frags I have lost. All the white stringy cotton looking stuff is gone color is coming back and starting to expand better. Oddly enough two colonys did not even get phased and they were put in two months before.

02/02/2016, 04:30 PM	#7
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	Here are what they looked like before And the one that caused the trouble

02/03/2016, 05:24 AM	#10
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	I have had mine puff up several times . I feed my tank heavy and it gets what it catches. I think your headed in the right direction. They can be a tricky coral that is slow to recover.

02/03/2016, 06:40 AM	#12
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	I would wait it out. I don't like to stress them any more than they are

02/03/2016, 07:28 AM	#14
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	It's easy to over illuminate them.

03/06/2016, 12:44 PM	#16
Revo31 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 6	I need help please….recommendations. Running out of options…. 90g reef Tank parameters: Everything is good except Nitrates @ 40 ppm Elegance coral about 2 months old. Open fully when I got it. For the past week, it starts to shrink and never open. Brown Jelly coming out. What I did. Flatworm exit because I notice there are flat worms. A few days later, Coral RX. Yesterday, J Crow Iodine dip 10 drops for 1.5 liter. Soak it for 45 seconds. Soak it in clean tank water for 1 1/2 min. Put it back in tank. See attached picture of what it looks like now. Microbacter7 dose: March 1 to March 4 added 10ml MB7 March 5, 6 added 18ml MB7 Nitrates @ 40 ppm

03/06/2016, 01:00 PM	#17
Revo31 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 6	In addition, I did water change: Last Saturday Feb 27, 16g yesterday, I added new 4g.

03/06/2016, 01:04 PM	#18
Revo31 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 6	90g reef Tank Setup: Reef octopus HOB skimmer HOB Aqua clear power filter 30g; no carbon, only foam and Biomax

03/07/2016, 03:06 PM	#19
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	Put it in a place where it is partly shaded and leave it. These take forever to adjust.

03/17/2016, 10:40 AM	#20
micgloth18 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 109	everyone says these corals are a hard to keep coral. Can you tell my why you are so successful.

03/17/2016, 05:23 PM	#21
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	There are really no secrets to keeping most any coral, yet some are pickier than others and want stable water parameters. All you need to do is keep everything stable and give them what they require as far as flow, light and additional food. There are some exceptions to that but they are few really. __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

03/20/2016, 10:30 AM	#22
Budman422 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 218	They are not hard to keep but hard to get acclimated. They take forever to finally adjust. You also have to get a good piece to start with. Once they are in your tank and stable they grow fast and open huge. Generally if you get one live past the 3 to 4 months then it will be healthy and live.

01/24/2018, 12:38 PM	#23
royceholder70 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1	So an update. I lost my aussie elegance with the pink tips. I have 3 huge green ones that need fragged. And the purple with green rim is fully recovered and starting to grow again. I left them alone and let them recover. Hopefully in 6 months or so they will be ready to frag again. Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk