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01/09/2017, 01:08 PM | #1 |
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phosguard vs phosband
what's the difference between Seachem phosguard and phosband? Are they not the same product? What's the pros and cons?
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They are both useful to lower phosphates in a tank but they are very different products.
Phosguard is alluminium based. Phosban is iron based. Some people, not all, do not want alluminium based products releasing aluminium in their reef tanks. Some claim no alluminium is released if washed carefully beforehand. Some report soft corals may react to Phosguard if not washed carefully before use. Phosguard is cheaper by the volume but you need more to remove phosphates and need to change it more often. Iron based phosphate removers have gained more popularity in general with reefers these days. |
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I just bought the one from Aqua Forest...............have not used it yet but the price is great and I read you do not even need to rince it before use.
http://www.reefsolution.com/catalog/...us-p-9117.html |
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I started with GFO but after a few days no matter what I did it would clump up in the reactor and stop tumbling. I switched to Phosguard and have had no problems with any of my corals. I did read about aluminum particles being released and agitating coral, but I have the output from the reactor draining into a filter sock and none of the corals seem to be effected. I run it together with GAC separated by sponges and put enough of each so that they get depleted around the same time.
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is there negative effects of continuously running phosband in reactor?
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All of these products are forms of GFO:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.htm They might be able to lower the phosphate level in a system low enough that corals have problems growing. That seems to be have happened to a number of people, although it's hard to know exactly what's happening in our systems.
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I think the phosphate comes from the fish pellets. I only feed them a pinch though. Last night Phosphate reading was 0.06 ppm. Is this high? If I run reactor with phosbound, will it not just strip phosphate? Is it okay to have 0 phosphate in reef tank? |
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I have two spots where I am getting some kind of blackish hair algae. The funny thing is the HA only grow on the Fauna Marin aquascape fix glue that I use to joint the rocks. It is not growing on the rocks. Only on the glue. That is why I am reducing the lights from 13 hours a day to 10 hours a day. I also want to get GFO reactor as well. This is my reasoning. |
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You are not targeting colors in an exclusively SPS tank so I do not think you should aim for 0 phosphates. I think your 0.06 is pretty good. Anywhere between 0.02 and 0.06 I think would be a good target. A little algae in a reef tank in my opinion is a sign of good health. If you get too much algae, take your 0.06 down to 0.02. Aiming for 0 may starve your softies and even some LPS. I will let others chime in with other opinions.
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Maybe the smoother surface makes it easier for algae to attach to?
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The rock surface might have other organisms that are inhibiting algal growth, as another idea.
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My bryopsis on my coral/invert QT grew on a ball of phosguard...
I have not seen a bad reaction to phosguard. IME people who had a bad reaction likely dropped phosphates rapidly causing the issue. You have to start slow and work your way up.
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