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Unread 10/14/2018, 09:51 AM   #1
Beakman
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Is there anything wrong with a simple 2 baffle sump?

A while back, as my first foray into having a sump, I built a very simple sump that had 3 chambers. 1 baffle placed 1/3rd of the way across the sump, the other places 2/3rds across. With about a 2” height difference between them.

That was it. No over unders, no filter sock holders, etc.

I told myself that when it was time to upgrade I would design something much more sophisticated. But now that the time is here, and I’ve planned out the more sophisticated sump that includes over unders and a horizontal glass piece with holes for filter socks, I can’t see any reason why this setup will achieve any of my specific needs better than just having 2 single glass piece baffles.

All I really want is a place to put my heaters, my HOB skimmer, and grow chaeto.

Important note in my case: I’m using a reef octopus HOB skimmed that has a built in bubble trap in the body, so I don’t really need baffles for a bubble trap.

I guess my main question is: if I can do this in a very simple and inexpensive way that will meet my needs, is there anything obvious that I’m missing that will make me regret having this kind of sump?


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Unread 10/14/2018, 11:34 AM   #2
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How do you plan to keep the cheato out of the skimmer?.
While a 2 chamber will work just fine for a non-fuge setup once you want to have a fuge in it thats best placed where there is no skimmer or return pump for it to get clogged in

If microbubbles wont be a problem then over/under setups arent really needed...I have all simple baffles in my sump but enough chambers to keep everything separated..


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Unread 10/14/2018, 12:52 PM   #3
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I have 3 compartments. Drain from DT, middle for pump to external skimmer and ATS, 3rd for return to DT and ATO sensor, my ca reactor also flows into the 3rd chamber


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Unread 10/14/2018, 01:30 PM   #4
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The skimmer will hang on the side of the tank in the first chamber, where the water from the tank flows into. The 2nd chamber will be the refugium where the chaeto is.

On my previous setup, I affixed some egg crate onto the 2nd baffle so the chaeto didn’t flow over into the return chamber.


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Unread 10/14/2018, 02:54 PM   #5
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You should have a sperate return chamber as the level in that chamber will change as a result of evaporation and the other chambers will stay at a constant level which is best for maintaining consistent level in the skimmer.


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Unread 10/14/2018, 03:08 PM   #6
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The 3rd chamber is the dedicated return pump chamber. If I wasn’t posting from my phone I’d post a quick mspaint drawing

Chamber 1: water flows in from display tank, protein skimmer, heaters

Chamber 2: Refugium with chaeto. Egg crate at end of chamber to prevent chaeto from flowing into chamber 3

Chamber 3: return pump and auto top off sensor


Thanks for all the feedback so far!


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Unread 10/14/2018, 03:16 PM   #7
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The 3rd chamber is the dedicated return pump chamber. If I wasn’t posting from my phone I’d post a quick mspaint drawing

Chamber 1: water flows in from display tank, protein skimmer, heaters

Chamber 2: Refugium with chaeto. Egg crate at end of chamber to prevent chaeto from flowing into chamber 3

Chamber 3: return pump and auto top off sensor


Thanks for all the feedback so far!
Maybe I don't understand. If the only sepreation between chambers 2 and 3 is the egg crate, than it is only 2 chambers.


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Unread 10/14/2018, 03:54 PM   #8
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You should have a sperate return chamber as the level in that chamber will change as a result of evaporation and the other chambers will stay at a constant level which is best for maintaining consistent level in the skimmer.
This, which will be important if you ever decide to change out your HOB skimmer.

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Unread 10/14/2018, 04:43 PM   #9
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Sorry the egg crate is an EXTRA piece that is pushed up against the glass baffle


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Unread 10/14/2018, 07:04 PM   #10
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I clearly wasnt reading well earlier today...


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Unread 10/16/2018, 08:29 AM   #11
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none of my sumps have ever had baffles. haven't noticed any issues.


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