Uronema Marinum in 375g

aquaticsbeyond · 01/23/2017, 09:41 AM

So I was an idiot over the weekend and didn't QT some new Chromis. I just finished setting up a 375 gallon tank and it finished cycling. These were the first fish going into the tank to make sure it was cycled enough for other fish. The seven Chromis I bought on Saturday died within 48 hours. They all had bruising on their sides that turned red. At first I thought the group were just attacking each other, but after some research I think it is Uronema Marinum. My question now is what to do about the tank. It currently is cycled with sand, live rock, CUC, and 3 peppermint shrimp. I have filter socks, skimmer, and bio pellets running. What would you recommend I do in this situation? I was contemplating running hyposalinity for a few months or dosing my entire tank with CP. I know some people recommend a Bleach treatment but I would like to avoid that if I can.

Khazmodain · 01/23/2017, 09:53 AM

If I were in this situation I'd try to pull out as much of your CUC and any corals that you can and put them into a non-treated tank. Then dose 20mg/L of CP into your display.

pfan151 · 01/24/2017, 02:15 PM

Only thing I'd trust to be sure it's gone for good is bleach. Run it a couple days, do a big WC and dump some prime in and you're ready to restart your cycle.

Dmorty217 · 01/24/2017, 05:15 PM

Chloroquine Phosphate will work for your problem

aquaticsbeyond · 01/24/2017, 07:59 PM

If I use CP will the tank re-cycle? Or will all the beneficial bacteria remain?

Khazmodain · 01/24/2017, 08:24 PM

It won't directly cause an issue with your bacteria, however, it does kill algae and inverts. So you may end up with an ammonia spike which could restart a bit of cycle.

Dmorty217 · 01/25/2017, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquaticsbeyond

If I use CP will the tank re-cycle? Or will all the beneficial bacteria remain?

The tank won't re-cycle and it will NOT harm the beneficial bacteria. 20mg/g is not the correct dose for urenoma FYI

Khazmodain · 01/25/2017, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmorty217

The tank won't re-cycle and it will NOT harm the beneficial bacteria. 20mg/g is not the correct dose for urenoma FYI

+1. You want to dose 20mg per liter.. not per gallon.

scooter31707 · 01/25/2017, 10:19 AM

I would leave off the lights also during the treatment.

caliMako · 02/19/2018, 10:31 PM

hi. in the same situation. where to buy cp?
thanks

scooter31707 · 02/27/2018, 01:31 PM

BTW, IME, CP did not work. I had to break down the tank, clean w/ bleach, rinse well, let air, and refill.

Louis Z · 02/27/2018, 07:49 PM

Sorry to hear that. But worth it in the long run . All of your future fish purchases could be at risk . Tough way to learn that all fish need qt and medication. Don’t want to sound perfect because I have to treat all of my fish for possible intestinal worms . I initially treated several times with metronidazole and praziquantel. Now that fish have been in DT for 3 weeks , I have a rabbitfish that eats like a pig yet slowly becoming emaciated. I have been feeding tank heavy yet to no avail .

Dmorty217 · 02/28/2018, 09:08 AM

For Urenoma 80mg/g is what the dosage is

01/23/2017, 09:41 AM	#1
aquaticsbeyond Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Posts: 6	Uronema Marinum in 375g So I was an idiot over the weekend and didn't QT some new Chromis. I just finished setting up a 375 gallon tank and it finished cycling. These were the first fish going into the tank to make sure it was cycled enough for other fish. The seven Chromis I bought on Saturday died within 48 hours. They all had bruising on their sides that turned red. At first I thought the group were just attacking each other, but after some research I think it is Uronema Marinum. My question now is what to do about the tank. It currently is cycled with sand, live rock, CUC, and 3 peppermint shrimp. I have filter socks, skimmer, and bio pellets running. What would you recommend I do in this situation? I was contemplating running hyposalinity for a few months or dosing my entire tank with CP. I know some people recommend a Bleach treatment but I would like to avoid that if I can.

01/24/2017, 05:15 PM	#4
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	Chloroquine Phosphate will work for your problem __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

01/24/2017, 08:24 PM	#6
Khazmodain Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 231	It won't directly cause an issue with your bacteria, however, it does kill algae and inverts. So you may end up with an ammonia spike which could restart a bit of cycle. Last edited by Khazmodain; 01/24/2017 at 08:59 PM.

02/28/2018, 09:08 AM	#13
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	For Urenoma 80mg/g is what the dosage is __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

01/23/2017, 09:53 AM	#2
Khazmodain Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 231	If I were in this situation I'd try to pull out as much of your CUC and any corals that you can and put them into a non-treated tank. Then dose 20mg/L of CP into your display.

01/24/2017, 02:15 PM	#3
pfan151 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,897	Only thing I'd trust to be sure it's gone for good is bleach. Run it a couple days, do a big WC and dump some prime in and you're ready to restart your cycle.

01/24/2017, 07:59 PM	#5
aquaticsbeyond Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Posts: 6	If I use CP will the tank re-cycle? Or will all the beneficial bacteria remain?

01/25/2017, 10:19 AM	#9
scooter31707 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,971	I would leave off the lights also during the treatment.

02/19/2018, 10:31 PM	#10
caliMako Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: simi valley, ca Posts: 141	hi. in the same situation. where to buy cp? thanks

02/27/2018, 01:31 PM	#11
scooter31707 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,971	BTW, IME, CP did not work. I had to break down the tank, clean w/ bleach, rinse well, let air, and refill.

02/27/2018, 07:49 PM	#12
Louis Z Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Montgomery Posts: 1,257	Sorry to hear that. But worth it in the long run . All of your future fish purchases could be at risk . Tough way to learn that all fish need qt and medication. Don’t want to sound perfect because I have to treat all of my fish for possible intestinal worms . I initially treated several times with metronidazole and praziquantel. Now that fish have been in DT for 3 weeks , I have a rabbitfish that eats like a pig yet slowly becoming emaciated. I have been feeding tank heavy yet to no avail .