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Unread 05/07/2019, 12:30 PM   #1
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Are there any macro algaes or plants that can live in saltwater that are considered

Weeds? I know there are tons of freshwater ones and I’d love to get something similar started in my saltwater tanks.


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Unread 05/07/2019, 09:41 PM   #2
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Your question is unclear. Are you asking if there are salt water plants that grow prolifically? Like weeds?


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Unread 05/08/2019, 10:18 PM   #3
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Yes, sorry, that’s what I meant


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Yes, there are several! Most of the Caulerpas, Ulva and Grasilaria come to mind. There are also more that are considered undesirable, like Dictoya, though some of them are nice. Generally the greens grow faster than the reds. You might enjoy this site: https://www.marineplantbook.com.

I had a nice fresh water planted tank myself. Now I've combined what I learned from both fresh and salt, in a marine planted tank, with seagrass and macro algae. It sounds like you are interested in going that direction as well. You might get some good info from my thread, Weeds, here in the Macro Section.

I hope this helps!


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Unread 05/09/2019, 01:36 AM   #5
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Since you're in Sacramento, you should know that there are nine varieties of caulerpa that are illegal in California.
Caulerpa Brachypus is the fastest growing (and coolest) of the legal varieties that I've found.


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Unread 05/09/2019, 05:39 AM   #6
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Thanks! Yeah I looked through your thread but didn’t go through each page! I hate that most caulerpa is illegal here


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It’d be nice to find some caulerpa for a reasonable price or even someone that has too much and is giving it away


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I’d love to find this somewhere! https://www.marineplantbook.com/mari...teromorpha.htm


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Unread 05/09/2019, 06:08 AM   #9
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Lots of that on eBay. I've considered that myself. I'd think it would move beautifully in the current. My experience with eBay is that they usually sell tiny frags of macros, which arrive in rough shape, and die before they recover. The last one I ordered had ice in the bag! That one is available in larger amounts though, so it could work. The smaller the frag the shorter the fuse, so to speak. A larger plant can have some die off and still recover.


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Oh cool, didn’t think to check eBay!


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Keep us apprised of your progress. Best of luck!


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How did you find it on eBay? I tried searching for enteromorpha but nothing came up so I’m looking through macro algae and not seeing it. Lots of chaeto and caulerpa though... �� wish I could just order caulerpa damnit!

I’m thinking of getting an order on kpaquatics with three of the toadstool algae


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Unread 05/09/2019, 06:31 AM   #13
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Google enteromorpha for sale, or ulva intestinalis for sale. That should get you some eBay hits.


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Thanks, just got a softball size clump for $25! Do you know what caulerpa species are legal here?


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I don't. I'd start with phobos2deimos's post above.


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Unread 05/10/2019, 09:47 PM   #16
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Quote:
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Thanks, just got a softball size clump for $25! Do you know what caulerpa species are legal here?
C. Brachypus
C. Prolifera
C. Paspaloides
C. Serrulata

Off the top of my head. All are great varities with good growth and unique roles aesthetically speaking. C. Brachypus can be a pest depending on how uptight you are, but can also add a really cool natural feel the others don't. The others are quite easy to contain.

I'm working on my growout tanks now but don't have any to sell quite yet.


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Thanks!! Makes it easier to search for them!


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Unread 05/13/2019, 10:16 PM   #18
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How was your softball size enteromorpha?


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Hasn’t even shipped yet :/

But my caulerpa has and it’ll be interesting to see if it gets past the government! Both were ebay


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Unread 05/15/2019, 07:34 PM   #20
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Well I got the caulerpa prolifera in the mail today... smaller than I was expecting :/ was it worth $16?




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If that included shipping, it's about right for what the market is right now. Not bad, not great.
Looks like it's in good shape so it should grow out very nicely for you.

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C. prolifera is a beautiful plant. Have fun!


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In California, the rule for caulerpa is simple: If it's a leaf, it's legal. If it's razor, grape, looks like little round shields on top of stems, looks like feathers... it's all illegal. And there are a lot more illegal forms than legal ones.


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