Saltmix Parameters bring on the test results - Page 6

jason2459 · 08/30/2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jason2459

Have these

SPotter · 08/30/2016, 07:12 PM

Jason I just want to say thank you for all of the work you have put into this. With all of this testing, which salt would you use? I know so many shop owners, growers and hobbyists that still use IO and have amazing systems.

bertoni · 08/30/2016, 08:31 PM

If we could trim that down to the basics, and some how get alkalinity numbers, that'd be a useful chart for a lot of people. I'd like to ditch the data in the sticky note. It's rather old now.

bif24701 · 08/30/2016, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPotter

Jason I just want to say thank you for all of the work you have put into this. With all of this testing, which salt would you use? I know so many shop owners, growers and hobbyists that still use IO and have amazing systems.

That's is the $64,000 question...

Aaron

SPotter · 08/30/2016, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bertoni

If we could trim that down to the basics, and some how get alkalinity numbers, that'd be a useful chart for a lot of people. I'd like to ditch the data in the sticky note. It's rather old now.

That is one of, if not the best sticky on all of rc!!! Now Jonathan, when it comes to chemistry theres usually a few people that I look to for answers and you're one of them. So, I don't know if you have shared this info or not but here's my $64,000 question to you.....what salt do you use??????

bertoni · 08/30/2016, 09:35 PM

I have used a number of products, but in the end I went for IO.

jason2459 · 08/30/2016, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPotter

Jason I just want to say thank you for all of the work you have put into this. With all of this testing, which salt would you use? I know so many shop owners, growers and hobbyists that still use IO and have amazing systems.

I have no preference really. IO has always fit my needs. I'd like a lower alk periodically but muriatic acid solves that problem.

If I could get Tropic Marine Pro a lot cheaper I would probably use it.

Otherwise I see no reason every tank couldn't be successful with any of these salt mixes as long as they supplement where or if needed.

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Originally Posted by bertoni

If we could trim that down to the basics, and some how get alkalinity numbers, that'd be a useful chart for a lot of people. I'd like to ditch the data in the sticky note. It's rather old now.

Thought this was in that link. It needs updated as well with these recent two mix results. Is this what you're looking for?

bertoni · 08/31/2016, 12:58 AM

Ah, yes. Maybe I'll get some time to work on a thread version that you could post.

jason2459 · 09/01/2016, 07:52 PM

I think I found a vba macro that will convert excel to bbcode tables. I'll see if I can try it out tonight.

Otherwise I got 50 50ml sterile vials in today to send first some RODI and then some samples of different salt mixes. But looks like I need some new DI again. I'll get it ordered tonight.

jason2459 · 09/02/2016, 07:15 PM

I can't seem to get the macro to work. Will work on it manually.

jason2459 · 09/26/2016, 07:00 PM

I'm preparing a decent size batch of samples to be sent to Aquaforest as they expected to receive a batch of them at one time and not a single sample at a time. It will include their saltmixes as well. All labeled with unrelated designations.

So, through out this week I'll be mixing and testing quite a bit. I did get results in on a batch pretty quickly from them. Faster then I expected and in a easy to read format. Plus, it included what they tested my salinity at which was nice and did match up to what I tested at.

More to come on that.

jason2459 · 09/28/2016, 02:23 PM

I got 6 samples prepared and tested last night. More to go and hope to have something shipped out Monday. That was a lot of work. lol

AugustWest · 10/03/2016, 08:36 PM

Haven't read the whole thread but did you test the Aquaforest Reef Salt? What did you get for Alk compared to what they claim the Alk to be n the paper n the bucket? I test it much lower than stated with 2 different Salifert kits.

jason2459 · 10/03/2016, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AugustWest

Haven't read the whole thread but did you test the Aquaforest Reef Salt? What did you get for Alk compared to what they claim the Alk to be n the paper n the bucket? I test it much lower than stated with 2 different Salifert kits.

Its post #132

It is being tested again FYI

jason2459 · 10/04/2016, 06:13 AM

I got two more saltmixes done last night. I have 3 more to go and I'm going to call it good. It's pretty time consuming which I'm short of right now.

Particularly using the protocol I've been using which I've stuck to since the beginning of this thread once I established a method I could repeat.

Then having to assure no cross contamination between making batches. The testing is the quickest part.

jason2459 · 10/04/2016, 11:24 PM

Water samples will be headed to Aquaforest tomorrow!

droog · 10/19/2016, 02:16 AM

Jason,

Check out this service from Red Sea: http://www.redseafish.com/my-batch/

Analysis based on batch number printed on the bucket. Pretty cool. I use Red Sea blue bucket, am getting 160ppm == 9.0 dKH @ 35ppt with the current bucket, will check that against the website.

-droog

jason2459 · 10/19/2016, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by droog

Jason,

Check out this service from Red Sea: http://www.redseafish.com/my-batch/

Analysis based on batch number printed on the bucket. Pretty cool. I use Red Sea blue bucket, am getting 160ppm == 9.0 dKH @ 35ppt with the current bucket, will check that against the website.

-droog

Thanks! I'll check it out.

jason2459 · 10/26/2016, 09:21 AM

OK, I got results back from AquaForest this morning. Wow, I've got a lot of compiling to do.

Thanks big time to AquaForest for running all those tests for me and really for all of us to help this thread become more complete.

jason2459 · 10/28/2016, 09:36 PM

I have all the numbers entered into the spreadsheets. Now just to figure out how to capture and post the triton/aquaforest sheet as it's gotten quite wide.

bif24701 · 10/28/2016, 09:55 PM

Come on man! We are diein here

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jason2459 · 10/28/2016, 10:14 PM

lol

Here's the big 3 breakdown at least to start with.

jason2459 · 10/28/2016, 10:26 PM

Here you go. All the ICP test results...

Working on it

jason2459 · 10/28/2016, 10:48 PM

Ok, couple different views and hope one of them works out ok. Lots of screen shots

jason2459 · 10/28/2016, 10:51 PM

08/30/2016, 07:12 PM	#127
SPotter Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 5,691	Jason I just want to say thank you for all of the work you have put into this. With all of this testing, which salt would you use? I know so many shop owners, growers and hobbyists that still use IO and have amazing systems. __________________ Steve Am I really doing all of this for a fish tank?????? Current Tank Info: 360g Envision Acrylic Tank, Closed Loops, Vectra L1's, MP40QD's, 400w Radiums, Regal 300ext, Dastaco Ext3 CaRx, Controlled by GHL Profilux

08/30/2016, 08:31 PM	#128
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	If we could trim that down to the basics, and some how get alkalinity numbers, that'd be a useful chart for a lot of people. I'd like to ditch the data in the sticky note. It's rather old now. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

08/30/2016, 09:35 PM	#131
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I have used a number of products, but in the end I went for IO. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

08/31/2016, 12:58 AM	#133
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	Ah, yes. Maybe I'll get some time to work on a thread version that you could post. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

09/01/2016, 07:52 PM	#134
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	I think I found a vba macro that will convert excel to bbcode tables. I'll see if I can try it out tonight. Otherwise I got 50 50ml sterile vials in today to send first some RODI and then some samples of different salt mixes. But looks like I need some new DI again. I'll get it ordered tonight. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

09/02/2016, 07:15 PM	#135
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	I can't seem to get the macro to work. Will work on it manually. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

09/26/2016, 07:00 PM	#136
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	I'm preparing a decent size batch of samples to be sent to Aquaforest as they expected to receive a batch of them at one time and not a single sample at a time. It will include their saltmixes as well. All labeled with unrelated designations. So, through out this week I'll be mixing and testing quite a bit. I did get results in on a batch pretty quickly from them. Faster then I expected and in a easy to read format. Plus, it included what they tested my salinity at which was nice and did match up to what I tested at. More to come on that. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

09/28/2016, 02:23 PM	#137
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	I got 6 samples prepared and tested last night. More to go and hope to have something shipped out Monday. That was a lot of work. lol __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

10/03/2016, 08:36 PM	#138
AugustWest Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 765 Blog Entries: 1	Haven't read the whole thread but did you test the Aquaforest Reef Salt? What did you get for Alk compared to what they claim the Alk to be n the paper n the bucket? I test it much lower than stated with 2 different Salifert kits.

10/04/2016, 06:13 AM	#140
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	I got two more saltmixes done last night. I have 3 more to go and I'm going to call it good. It's pretty time consuming which I'm short of right now. Particularly using the protocol I've been using which I've stuck to since the beginning of this thread once I established a method I could repeat. Then having to assure no cross contamination between making batches. The testing is the quickest part. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

10/04/2016, 11:24 PM	#141
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Water samples will be headed to Aquaforest tomorrow! __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

10/19/2016, 02:16 AM	#142
droog Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 736	Jason, Check out this service from Red Sea: http://www.redseafish.com/my-batch/ Analysis based on batch number printed on the bucket. Pretty cool. I use Red Sea blue bucket, am getting 160ppm == 9.0 dKH @ 35ppt with the current bucket, will check that against the website. -droog

10/26/2016, 09:21 AM	#144
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	OK, I got results back from AquaForest this morning. Wow, I've got a lot of compiling to do. Thanks big time to AquaForest for running all those tests for me and really for all of us to help this thread become more complete. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

10/28/2016, 09:36 PM	#145
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	I have all the numbers entered into the spreadsheets. Now just to figure out how to capture and post the triton/aquaforest sheet as it's gotten quite wide. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

10/28/2016, 09:55 PM	#146
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	Saltmix Parameters bring on the test results Come on man! We are diein here Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

10/28/2016, 10:14 PM	#147
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	lol Here's the big 3 breakdown at least to start with. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

10/28/2016, 10:26 PM	#148
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Here you go. All the ICP test results... Working on it __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

10/28/2016, 10:48 PM	#149
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Ok, couple different views and hope one of them works out ok. Lots of screen shots __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

10/28/2016, 10:51 PM	#150
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	__________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank