Are my zoa goners?

spikey114 · 11/14/2014, 12:43 PM

I bought some superduperman zoas over a month ago and they never opened up. It doesn't seem like they melted just small and closed up. Any ideas?

Latest parameters
PH - 8
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 20
Alk - 9.1
CA - 490
Mg - 1840

Mg is really high but I don't think it affected zoas. Plus I have 8 other types and they are all doing great. Thanks

reefer999 · 11/14/2014, 12:56 PM

Try to get your nitrates down to at least 5, your calcium down to the 450 range and your magnesium to the 1300-1400 range. You should see improvements

650-IS350 · 11/14/2014, 01:11 PM

looks like algae or fungus growth.. I'd do a peroxide dip 1part Hydo to 4 part water.

Usually kills all algae off the coral and plug. If the Zoa is healthy it should easily survive it.

Do some water changes to take off the Nitrate

Ryannn · 11/16/2014, 10:32 AM

Definitely dip them with the above mentioned solution.

Also, one thing that I have found to be beneficial is to go through with a turkey baster at least once a week and blow off the mats of my Zoas. It irritates them, and they close up, but when they are open all day there is a tendency to build up detritus under their heads where the flow isn't as good. Over time, this builds up.

650-IS350 · 11/16/2014, 02:38 PM

yep at least once a week or 2, turkey baster to blow water thru the polyps to move dirt, dietrius and crud off and around the polyps.

d-man · 11/25/2014, 10:36 AM

When I was dosing tech M to try to eradicate my bryopsis, the mag got to 2200. My Rastas closed big time. I thought they were goners. A water change or two later and no more dosing and they are back to normal and flourishing well.

liven learn · 12/04/2014, 05:01 AM

Try chemiclean ime best thing for zoas. Peroxide dip.is good just takes too long for them to open back up for me.

Mpup · 12/05/2014, 02:45 PM

Any update?

spikey114 · 12/11/2014, 11:30 PM

Yeah. I didn't do the dip Ike people mentioned because one of my turbo snail actually went through it and ate the algae clean off them. They were still closed afterward and around thanksgiving I dipped them in furan-2 to see if it would help. I had a small nudibrach attack and was dipping my BBEB because one in the colony died from being eaten and I didn't want the rest of the colony to get an infection. I'll make a separate post about that. The superduperman are doing a lot better now since the dip. Initially when they first started opening up from being closed for over a month the entire zoa was purple. Even the inside when it opened up. Now it looks like it's gaining it's color back. I'll try to post a pic tomorrow. Thanks all

spikey114 · 12/12/2014, 04:10 PM

This is what they look like at the moment

spikey114 · 12/12/2014, 04:13 PM

Sorry tapatalk crashed

Mpup · 12/12/2014, 07:08 PM

Much happier!

2012Denali · 12/26/2014, 08:10 PM

Yeah looking pretty good, dipping is never really a bad idea tho

11/14/2014, 01:11 PM	#3
650-IS350 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 14,555	looks like algae or fungus growth.. I'd do a peroxide dip 1part Hydo to 4 part water. Usually kills all algae off the coral and plug. If the Zoa is healthy it should easily survive it. Do some water changes to take off the Nitrate __________________ * RETIRED FROM REEFING * Just enjoying the box of water from afar

11/16/2014, 02:38 PM	#5
650-IS350 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 14,555	yep at least once a week or 2, turkey baster to blow water thru the polyps to move dirt, dietrius and crud off and around the polyps. __________________ * RETIRED FROM REEFING * Just enjoying the box of water from afar

12/04/2014, 05:01 AM	#7
liven learn Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 135	Try chemiclean ime best thing for zoas. Peroxide dip.is good just takes too long for them to open back up for me. __________________ Ask yourself. Are your tank inhabitants surviving or are they thriving?

11/14/2014, 12:56 PM	#2
reefer999 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,348	Try to get your nitrates down to at least 5, your calcium down to the 450 range and your magnesium to the 1300-1400 range. You should see improvements

11/16/2014, 10:32 AM	#4
Ryannn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 51	Definitely dip them with the above mentioned solution. Also, one thing that I have found to be beneficial is to go through with a turkey baster at least once a week and blow off the mats of my Zoas. It irritates them, and they close up, but when they are open all day there is a tendency to build up detritus under their heads where the flow isn't as good. Over time, this builds up.

11/25/2014, 10:36 AM	#6
d-man Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego, ca Posts: 2,732	When I was dosing tech M to try to eradicate my bryopsis, the mag got to 2200. My Rastas closed big time. I thought they were goners. A water change or two later and no more dosing and they are back to normal and flourishing well.

12/05/2014, 02:45 PM	#8
Mpup Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 56	Any update?

12/11/2014, 11:30 PM	#9
spikey114 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Daly City, CA Posts: 127	Yeah. I didn't do the dip Ike people mentioned because one of my turbo snail actually went through it and ate the algae clean off them. They were still closed afterward and around thanksgiving I dipped them in furan-2 to see if it would help. I had a small nudibrach attack and was dipping my BBEB because one in the colony died from being eaten and I didn't want the rest of the colony to get an infection. I'll make a separate post about that. The superduperman are doing a lot better now since the dip. Initially when they first started opening up from being closed for over a month the entire zoa was purple. Even the inside when it opened up. Now it looks like it's gaining it's color back. I'll try to post a pic tomorrow. Thanks all

12/12/2014, 04:10 PM	#10
spikey114 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Daly City, CA Posts: 127	This is what they look like at the moment

12/12/2014, 07:08 PM	#12
Mpup Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 56	Much happier!

12/26/2014, 08:10 PM	#13
2012Denali Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: upstate NY Posts: 95	Yeah looking pretty good, dipping is never really a bad idea tho