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Old 05/16/2014, 10:56 PM   #76
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im going to try some cuprisorb too and see what happens.. all my cheato has died off because of the algae blooms so hopefully this works and i can restock my fuge


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Old 05/16/2014, 11:10 PM   #77
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I upped my refugium lighting period from opposite tank to 24 hours and all my caulerpa is now covered with Dinos.

Guess there is something that outcompetes caulerpa after all.


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Old 05/17/2014, 06:50 AM   #78
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I thought you were supposed to have the fuge light on 24hrs with caulerpa so it does go "sexual"


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Old 05/17/2014, 07:57 AM   #79
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Must be a party LOL.... wish I wasn't invited... I'm on day 2.
All I'm getting right now are flat sheets on the acrylic frag rack and back wall with bubbles at the end of the photo period with on occasional vertical string with a bubble.

I have not tried anything yet other than cuprisorb, oh I did turn off my white LED's so only running 450nm blue at the moment.


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Old 05/17/2014, 10:09 AM   #80
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I thought you were supposed to have the fuge light on 24hrs with caulerpa so it does go "sexual"
Some people think that. I think they're fine with a normal plant light schedule and haven't gotten stressed in all the years I've had it.

I've had it run on 24 cycles before, though. Just grows faster and takes more nutrients. But normally that's not an issue and it doesn't seem to take the nutrients that dinos need, for some reason.


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Old 05/17/2014, 12:01 PM   #81
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I've done both types of light cycles in the past decade, and my normal variety of Caulerpa racemosa has never sporulated.


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Old 05/17/2014, 12:49 PM   #82
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hmm good to know... I might have to get some after this battle is done


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Old 05/19/2014, 11:26 AM   #83
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Still no noted changes using cuprisorb only. started a 3 day black out period this morning.


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Old 05/19/2014, 11:28 AM   #84
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Still no noted changes using cuprisorb only. started a 3 day black out period this morning.
Hopefully this helps. I'm thinking about buying some, even thought about the peroxide. Let us know!


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Old 05/24/2014, 10:02 PM   #85
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1 week in with Curprisorb, and dino seems to be on the retreat. I put in the Cuprisorb, shut my lights down for 1 day, and drained the tank down to spot treat with peroxide. Ive left my 2 Blue+ T5's off and only been running my 2 Vega LED's (at my normal intensity). My case of Dino is mild judging by some pics I've seen, and I still have a few small patches. But, I feel like the Cuprisorb is doing something because Ive tried the black outs, the peroxide, and ultra algae X, without seeing the results I'm seeing now. Id suggest trying it on Dino, its practically free and has no risk.

Hows everyone else who's trying to Cuprisorb fairing?

BTW, I'm using the bag rated for 60G, on my 40 Breeder w/ 29G sump.


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Old 05/25/2014, 10:24 AM   #86
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1 week in with Curprisorb, and dino seems to be on the retreat. I put in the Cuprisorb, shut my lights down for 1 day, and drained the tank down to spot treat with peroxide. Ive left my 2 Blue+ T5's off and only been running my 2 Vega LED's (at my normal intensity). My case of Dino is mild judging by some pics I've seen, and I still have a few small patches. But, I feel like the Cuprisorb is doing something because Ive tried the black outs, the peroxide, and ultra algae X, without seeing the results I'm seeing now. Id suggest trying it on Dino, its practically free and has no risk.

Hows everyone else who's trying to Cuprisorb fairing?

BTW, I'm using the bag rated for 60G, on my 40 Breeder w/ 29G sump.
Good News, I ordered some Curprisorb, cant wait to use it


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Old 05/28/2014, 09:47 PM   #87
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Hey guys, take a look at this. This is all that I have left, what do you think? I dont see any more bubbles.





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Old 05/29/2014, 02:06 PM   #88
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I haven't noticed any improvement yet post 3 day black out and using cuprisorb. @915MANG what did you do to get improvement?


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Old 05/29/2014, 02:10 PM   #89
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I haven't noticed any improvement yet post 3 day black out and using cuprisorb. @915MANG what did you do to get improvement?
Well I reduced flow from my overflow.
I used a whole bottle of that BMW
I think what has helped the most was siphon the sand bed. Getting the stringy dino stuff out. Once a week
And hopefully the cuprisorb works too.
Still doing my water changes once a week 5g


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Old 05/29/2014, 02:10 PM   #90
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Old 05/29/2014, 02:23 PM   #91
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Let me help you, perhaps MB7?

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Old 05/29/2014, 02:33 PM   #92
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Let me help you, perhaps MB7?

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Something 7, lol. I only used one bottle.


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Old 05/29/2014, 02:40 PM   #93
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LOL...

I'm thinking about removing my sand bed completely. Its only a .75" sandbed in a frag tank so shouldn't be that difficult (famous last words)...


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Old 05/29/2014, 02:44 PM   #94
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Glad to hear that others are having success with Cuprisorb.

Those of you who have had success you might want to check equipment for rust. This is what lead me to running Cuprisorb. I had a pump that was rusting badly in my sump. I did a search for Iron + dinoflagellets and stumbled on a old post about someone claiming cuprisorb curing there tank. I tried everything to kill it including peroxide so I figured what the heck lets try cuprisorb....sure enough it worked.


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Still wish we knew if it was iron, copper, or something else.


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Old 05/30/2014, 12:00 AM   #96
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Randy I will send you mine if you want to experiment

Hopefully tomorrow evening I will have a chance to pull some out and put it on a slide. I'm confident that what I have is dino's based on visual appearance but would like to see them up close.


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Old 05/30/2014, 09:35 AM   #97
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Ok I think this whole cupisorb started with something I posted a long time ago..

I battled dino's for a long time way back when.
I never used the product to get rid of dino's though. I dont think the product was even available and not even sure Seachem existed yet at least they were not selling products in the states. Thats how long ago I dealt with them..

The hole idea came from:
In my area for a while people were either battling hair algae or other bad algae or dino's..
Those that kept lower nutrients had dino's and those that didn't had other types of bad algae mainly hair...

The whole cuprisorb thing came from something I posted years latter because the one thing we all had in our water in high concentrations was iron... So maybe iron was the common thing... I had stated if iron was what helped fuel them maybe a product like cuprisorb might help slow them down by removing iron. I never used it for them though because I dont think it existed yet.. But hey if it turns out to help people that is awsume...


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Still wish we knew if it was iron, copper, or something else.
I think we can figure this out once Two Little Fishes Metasorb product comes out. This stuff changes colors depending on the metal it absorbs....so if someone were to try this product and have success they maybe able to tell what metal was removed.

If I had to guess on my issue I would say it was iron because I had horrible rust a pump. Then again I am no chemist and the rust could of been Iron and other metals being released


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I think we can figure this out once Two Little Fishes Metasorb product comes out. This stuff changes colors depending on the metal it absorbs..

Maybe, but polyfilters already do that...

I also would not assume that because it is the metal that gives a filter its color, that it must be what was elevated and caused dino problems. As I've mentioned, I've dosed iron for years and never had a dino problem, as have many others.

In fact, I've not really notice any real correlation between people coming online with dino problems after having recently started dosing iron.

The corroding metal part likely has a lot more metals in it than iron, but regardless, if the cuprisorb is able to remove something the dinos need to the point they stop growing well, that would be a considerable advance in treating them.


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Randy thank you for that. I am glad you are apart of this discussion because all I can really do at this point is give my best guess.

I really wish I would of sent my water into a lab for analysis before I ran the cuprisorb


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