300G inwall 'stalled'

vair · 03/28/2013, 10:03 PM

Stalled why? Five years ago bought a new for me but old house to reno, build my fish room and inwall display tank. Time that purchase with a over cost house reno, recession and having two kids the tank was stalled...

Five years ago:

vair · 03/28/2013, 10:08 PM

Thats a shot viewing the fish room and from the fish room where I'm installing a floor drain and water lines for a sink.

(I'll figure out hoe to post picture's better and keep add some more, cant get Photobucket to upload but the above pics suck)

Breadman03 · 03/28/2013, 10:29 PM

You can just copy and paste the IMG code from photobucket. I totally understand the impact of the recession on your tank build. I'm just finally getting back on my feet from when the housing market crashed.

Aquatron · 03/28/2013, 11:42 PM

Your not alone 2008 crash FMOB i too am just getting back moving forward. I just built one part at a time and i am almost finished. Looking back it has been good for my thoughts and build!

Keep your chin up

vair · 03/29/2013, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Breadman03

You can just copy and paste the IMG code.

That's what I was doing and Reef Cental gave the error message invalid file, numerous attempts gave up, I'll try later.

vair · 03/29/2013, 12:10 PM

Figured the pics out...

So recap:
five years ago.

How it sat for five years, wife made me cover the wall cut out after a year or so.

Fast forward to yesterday:

Just about to start to tile the wall in the fish room the tank in on.

vair · 03/29/2013, 12:18 PM

The new tank is ordered and should be done in a couple weeks.
81 X 30 X 32 with Starphire front panel. Ordered from Custom Aquariums in Calgary, they have been great to deal with and build really nice tanks.

Equipment I have, it was good five years ago, maybe a little dated now...
Skimmer Deltec AP1003
Calcium Reactor Deltec 601
Phosphate Remover Deltec 509?
Ocean motions 4way
Tunze Osmolator auto top off
Tunze Wavebox 6215
Older Neptune controller, I'll get the newer APEX
I have an ozonizer and a dryer.
Dedicated HRV in the fish room.

I have a grave yard of lights 400MH, 250MH, T5's but I have some LED's on my wish list.

vair · 03/29/2013, 12:31 PM

The reason I started the build thread is I had a question regarding placement of the viewing walls height at the water line of the tank. I want it just below the water line so you can't see wave action. I answered it myself I think, with out the final stand, tank, not knowing the wave line it would be a guess at best. So I decided to tile the entire wall and leave out a section that I'll add in after the tank is in place.

The entire five years I ran a temporary 200 gallon tank with two fish in it, a purple tang I've had for 13 years and a damsel with lots of live rock, so ridiculous. It was a real show of serious tank neglect, very few water changes, skimmer broke a year ago, never replaced. The fish are happy I've been cleaning up a bit.

Could be a couple weeks before the build see's many more pics.

vair · 03/29/2013, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquatron

Keep your chin up

Thanks but my chin was never down, just my cash flow.... and besides that my two and four year old daughters kept me busy!

vair · 03/29/2013, 12:41 PM

Thinking, searching lights and pumps about the only real changes in five years. That and algae scrubbers seem to be the flavour of the month. Oh and maybe Bio-balls seems to be making a slight come back.

Sonicboom · 03/29/2013, 01:01 PM

glad to see you are back in motion on the build, I am right there with you on my build.

vair · 04/03/2013, 08:38 AM

I thought I was going to be running a closed loop with a Ocean Motion OM4 as I already have the equipment from my last reef setup and it was successful. Now after reading the debate on the merits of a closed loop vs. wave maker style power heads I'm at a loss of which way to go. (no pun intended)

Is it a typical debate like DSB?
Please help with my last minute design panic on my 300G build.

vair · 04/03/2013, 08:43 AM

Finished tiling the inside wall of the fish room.

Sonicboom · 04/03/2013, 09:11 AM

nice work, is there going to be AC ducting in there? you guys with your spare rooms are so blessed, i think i may move my tank to the wall opposite the garage, then i can place the top off and do water changes into the utility sink.

vair · 04/03/2013, 09:48 AM

No AC, but it has a room dedicated HRV. If needed I was going to add a smaller AC to just that room but hoping it won't be necessary.
Funny you mention the room, it is already starting to feel small planning out the water storage, sump, QT tanks, etc, etc.....

vair · 04/19/2013, 09:17 PM

Some progress, finished off the fish room vapour barrier all over and installed a ceiling. Bought 170lbs of great rock heres a few pics. These pieces are like basketball size and bigger. Cleaned all the rock off and have it curing and skimming. Nice to fire up the monster skimmer after it had a five year holiday.
Tank should be here soon.

vair · 04/19/2013, 09:22 PM

Oh ya ordered a GHL Mitras LED lights. My tank is 81 X 30 so I'm going to try out two lights at first, i think it'll work as I'm not super concerned with max lighting the far side edges. The lights have a 36" spread so at 72" total it'll only be a bit not being well lit.... I hope.

vair · 04/24/2013, 08:53 AM

Humm not sure why my photos decided to flip upside down?

Sonicboom · 04/24/2013, 10:26 AM

look fine to me, are there more?

vair · 04/24/2013, 10:44 AM

Weird they were all upside down earlier when I looked.

More pics? I'll see if I can get one with my kid 'in' the skimmer for you.
I could take a picture of of new GHL's

anyone one care to comment:

My tank builder thought I was crazy to match my flow through the sump to match my skimmer~ 700gph. He was thinking that with my total water volume of 500+-G that 700gph through the sump would not be enough for the heaters in the sump to heat the DT?? I'll have additional tank turnover of 7000gph +- from a closed loop feeding a OM 4 Way.

I don't think he is correct, we both looked at each other like the other was crazy, any comments?

vair · 04/24/2013, 11:08 AM

Another question:

Thinking 100G RO/DI storage tank and 50G saltwater mix storage. That would give me about a 10% water change using the 50G and access to 150G of water in an emergency water change situation.

Does that sound like a good plan?

vair · 04/26/2013, 10:42 AM

Any advice on my couple questions above?
Flow through the sump more importantly.
Thanks

vair · 05/05/2013, 09:32 PM

Some progress:

The stand, it was looking so good I let it play in my backyard for a bit-

Tank building on site by Concept Aquariums, these guys are pros and build really nice tanks. They also built the stand and it is bomb proof. From left to right we have Mr. Small, then Mr. Medium, and Mr. Extra Large.

This was day one and in a couple days they come back and do the overflow box and euro bracing and then its game on. I have boxes showing up every day of new toys and parts!

Poriferan · 05/06/2013, 10:54 PM

Nice progress after the long stall.

vair · 05/07/2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Poriferan

Nice progress after the long stall.

Thanks should be moving forward pretty fast now. Planning on using 3-4 Waveline pumps that might be my unknown delay right now.

Upside down pics happen when viewing from an IPad, I wonder if that's Photobucket issue or Reef Central?

03/28/2013, 10:08 PM	#2
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Thats a shot viewing the fish room and from the fish room where I'm installing a floor drain and water lines for a sink. (I'll figure out hoe to post picture's better and keep add some more, cant get Photobucket to upload but the above pics suck) __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

03/28/2013, 11:42 PM	#4
Aquatron Refugium pat.#D414,242 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 844	Your not alone 2008 crash FMOB i too am just getting back moving forward. I just built one part at a time and i am almost finished. Looking back it has been good for my thoughts and build! Keep your chin up __________________ Doctor "Aquatron" Mister "Spinner" 300 gallon TRUVU AquaSystem "Mod" w/ 150 gallon control center....... Build Thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2276765&highlight=300+dt+

03/29/2013, 12:10 PM	#6
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Figured the pics out... So recap: five years ago. How it sat for five years, wife made me cover the wall cut out after a year or so. Fast forward to yesterday: Just about to start to tile the wall in the fish room the tank in on. __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

03/29/2013, 12:18 PM	#7
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	The new tank is ordered and should be done in a couple weeks. 81 X 30 X 32 with Starphire front panel. Ordered from Custom Aquariums in Calgary, they have been great to deal with and build really nice tanks. Equipment I have, it was good five years ago, maybe a little dated now... Skimmer Deltec AP1003 Calcium Reactor Deltec 601 Phosphate Remover Deltec 509? Ocean motions 4way Tunze Osmolator auto top off Tunze Wavebox 6215 Older Neptune controller, I'll get the newer APEX I have an ozonizer and a dryer. Dedicated HRV in the fish room. I have a grave yard of lights 400MH, 250MH, T5's but I have some LED's on my wish list. __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

03/29/2013, 12:31 PM	#8
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	The reason I started the build thread is I had a question regarding placement of the viewing walls height at the water line of the tank. I want it just below the water line so you can't see wave action. I answered it myself I think, with out the final stand, tank, not knowing the wave line it would be a guess at best. So I decided to tile the entire wall and leave out a section that I'll add in after the tank is in place. The entire five years I ran a temporary 200 gallon tank with two fish in it, a purple tang I've had for 13 years and a damsel with lots of live rock, so ridiculous. It was a real show of serious tank neglect, very few water changes, skimmer broke a year ago, never replaced. The fish are happy I've been cleaning up a bit. Could be a couple weeks before the build see's many more pics. __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank. Last edited by vair; 03/29/2013 at 01:06 PM.

03/28/2013, 10:29 PM	#3
Breadman03 New Old School Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Luzerne County, PA Posts: 3,293	You can just copy and paste the IMG code from photobucket. I totally understand the impact of the recession on your tank build. I'm just finally getting back on my feet from when the housing market crashed.

03/29/2013, 12:41 PM	#10
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Thinking, searching lights and pumps about the only real changes in five years. That and algae scrubbers seem to be the flavour of the month. Oh and maybe Bio-balls seems to be making a slight come back. __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

03/29/2013, 01:01 PM	#11
Sonicboom Addicted to salt Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Carrollwood, FL Posts: 2,450	glad to see you are back in motion on the build, I am right there with you on my build. __________________ "60% of the time it works every time..." - Anchorman Current Tank Info: 180 Aqueon RR / SRO3000Int / BLDC15 / TriggerSys custom Sump / AI Hydra 52 and Hydra 26

04/03/2013, 08:38 AM	#12
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	I thought I was going to be running a closed loop with a Ocean Motion OM4 as I already have the equipment from my last reef setup and it was successful. Now after reading the debate on the merits of a closed loop vs. wave maker style power heads I'm at a loss of which way to go. (no pun intended) Is it a typical debate like DSB? Please help with my last minute design panic on my 300G build. __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank. Last edited by vair; 04/03/2013 at 08:45 AM.

04/03/2013, 08:43 AM	#13
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Finished tiling the inside wall of the fish room. __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

04/03/2013, 09:11 AM	#14
Sonicboom Addicted to salt Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Carrollwood, FL Posts: 2,450	nice work, is there going to be AC ducting in there? you guys with your spare rooms are so blessed, i think i may move my tank to the wall opposite the garage, then i can place the top off and do water changes into the utility sink. __________________ "60% of the time it works every time..." - Anchorman Current Tank Info: 180 Aqueon RR / SRO3000Int / BLDC15 / TriggerSys custom Sump / AI Hydra 52 and Hydra 26

04/03/2013, 09:48 AM	#15
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	No AC, but it has a room dedicated HRV. If needed I was going to add a smaller AC to just that room but hoping it won't be necessary. Funny you mention the room, it is already starting to feel small planning out the water storage, sump, QT tanks, etc, etc..... __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

04/19/2013, 09:17 PM	#16
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Some progress, finished off the fish room vapour barrier all over and installed a ceiling. Bought 170lbs of great rock heres a few pics. These pieces are like basketball size and bigger. Cleaned all the rock off and have it curing and skimming. Nice to fire up the monster skimmer after it had a five year holiday. Tank should be here soon. __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

04/19/2013, 09:22 PM	#17
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Oh ya ordered a GHL Mitras LED lights. My tank is 81 X 30 so I'm going to try out two lights at first, i think it'll work as I'm not super concerned with max lighting the far side edges. The lights have a 36" spread so at 72" total it'll only be a bit not being well lit.... I hope. __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

04/24/2013, 08:53 AM	#18
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Humm not sure why my photos decided to flip upside down? __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

04/24/2013, 10:26 AM	#19
Sonicboom Addicted to salt Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Carrollwood, FL Posts: 2,450	look fine to me, are there more? __________________ "60% of the time it works every time..." - Anchorman Current Tank Info: 180 Aqueon RR / SRO3000Int / BLDC15 / TriggerSys custom Sump / AI Hydra 52 and Hydra 26

04/24/2013, 10:44 AM	#20
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Weird they were all upside down earlier when I looked. More pics? I'll see if I can get one with my kid 'in' the skimmer for you. I could take a picture of of new GHL's anyone one care to comment: My tank builder thought I was crazy to match my flow through the sump to match my skimmer~ 700gph. He was thinking that with my total water volume of 500+-G that 700gph through the sump would not be enough for the heaters in the sump to heat the DT?? I'll have additional tank turnover of 7000gph +- from a closed loop feeding a OM 4 Way. I don't think he is correct, we both looked at each other like the other was crazy, any comments? __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

04/24/2013, 11:08 AM	#21
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Another question: Thinking 100G RO/DI storage tank and 50G saltwater mix storage. That would give me about a 10% water change using the 50G and access to 150G of water in an emergency water change situation. Does that sound like a good plan? __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

04/26/2013, 10:42 AM	#22
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Any advice on my couple questions above? Flow through the sump more importantly. Thanks __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

05/05/2013, 09:32 PM	#23
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Some progress: The stand, it was looking so good I let it play in my backyard for a bit- Tank building on site by Concept Aquariums, these guys are pros and build really nice tanks. They also built the stand and it is bomb proof. From left to right we have Mr. Small, then Mr. Medium, and Mr. Extra Large. This was day one and in a couple days they come back and do the overflow box and euro bracing and then its game on. I have boxes showing up every day of new toys and parts! __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

05/06/2013, 10:54 PM	#24
Poriferan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 418	Nice progress after the long stall.