What factors effect snails to die??

Daddyrawg · 12/03/2018, 06:41 PM

Considering temp 79-80 and no hermit crabs and everything else thriving?

Ive gotten 10 snails and 1 only has survived and they die within days...

WHat the problem is? can it be the 80 temp? maybe pests im not aware of?

mcgyvr · 12/03/2018, 07:10 PM

Salinity?
Quality of supply?
80f does not cause snails to die but your temp could be off I suppose..

Uncle99 · 12/03/2018, 08:11 PM

Some species of snails like Margarite snails come from cooler waters and don't live too long, maybe a month or so in warmer waters like 78-80. What was the type of snails you lost?

Daddyrawg · 12/04/2018, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle99

Some species of snails like Margarite snails come from cooler waters and don't live too long, maybe a month or so in warmer waters like 78-80. What was the type of snails you lost?

trocuhus and turbo snails.. whats weird is my nassarius snails havent died

FortyFour · 12/04/2018, 12:42 AM

Are you drip acclimating them?

Daddyrawg · 12/04/2018, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FortyFour

Are you drip acclimating them?

yep

homer1475 · 12/04/2018, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FortyFour

Are you drip acclimating them?

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Originally Posted by Daddyrawg

yep

Why? they are snails, unless your QTing them just float bag to match temp, dump in. Salinity with inverts should always be very close to 1.026. They are not like fish where they can be kept down to 1.019 and drip acclimating will slowly bring the salinity up.

There is a sticky up at the top of this forum about death in bags. One should read up on it.

Scott07 · 12/04/2018, 12:18 PM

Do you know your magnesium level? High Mg can affect invertibrates, especially snails in my experience, negatively.

Daddyrawg · 12/04/2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott07

Do you know your magnesium level? High Mg can affect invertibrates, especially snails in my experience, negatively.

I don't since I only have a couple corals in a 90 i just rely on my weekly 10% water changes to balance out calc/alk/mag

Anemone · 12/04/2018, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by homer1475

Why? they are snails, unless your QTing them just float bag to match temp, dump in. Salinity with inverts should always be very close to 1.026. They are not like fish where they can be kept down to 1.019 and drip acclimating will slowly bring the salinity up.

IME, snails are VERY susceptible to osmotic shock and will die if not allowed to acclimate slowly in water, or acclimate more quickly out of water (by this, I mean I generally remove the snails from the bag and place them on a plate for a few minutes(this allows them to expel the water in their shell). Then, I allow them to attach to the tank glass just above the water line and enter the water on their own. This method has greatly reduced death in newly introduced snails).

FWIW,
Kevin

Daddyrawg · 12/04/2018, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anemone

IME, snails are VERY susceptible to osmotic shock and will die if not allowed to acclimate slowly in water, or acclimate more quickly out of water (by this, I mean I generally remove the snails from the bag and place them on a plate for a few minutes(this allows them to expel the water in their shell). Then, I allow them to attach to the tank glass just above the water line and enter the water on their own. This method has greatly reduced death in newly introduced snails).

FWIW,
Kevin

smart..ill try this method next thx

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billdogg · 12/05/2018, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anemone

IME, snails are VERY susceptible to osmotic shock and will die if not allowed to acclimate slowly in water, or acclimate more quickly out of water (by this, I mean I generally remove the snails from the bag and place them on a plate for a few minutes(this allows them to expel the water in their shell). Then, I allow them to attach to the tank glass just above the water line and enter the water on their own. This method has greatly reduced death in newly introduced snails).

FWIW,
Kevin

^^^THIS, x 1000^^^

I "acclimate" mine the same way and my losses have dropped dramatically since I started do it this way. Check the salinity in the bags they come in and match it as closely as possible.

peekay · 12/06/2018, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Anemone

IME, snails are VERY susceptible to osmotic shock and will die if not allowed to acclimate slowly in water, or acclimate more quickly out of water (by this, I mean I generally remove the snails from the bag and place them on a plate for a few minutes(this allows them to expel the water in their shell). Then, I allow them to attach to the tank glass just above the water line and enter the water on their own. This method has greatly reduced death in newly introduced snails).

FWIW,
Kevin

Great information!! I'm just ordered a CUC from Reefcleaners.org. I will ensure to acclimate my snails using this method.

PK

kevin21 · 12/06/2018, 10:39 AM

Reefcleaners gives good acclimation advice as well. I like what was mentioned above too. If salinity is matched, follow the above advice. The more they drip acclimate, the more ammonia that can build and more stress on the snails.

bcb577 · 12/06/2018, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddyrawg

Considering temp 79-80 and no hermit crabs and everything else thriving?

Ive gotten 10 snails and 1 only has survived and they die within days...

WHat the problem is? can it be the 80 temp? maybe pests im not aware of?

How long has the tank been up? Just a shot in the dark but do they have sufficient food supply?

Daddyrawg · 12/07/2018, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bcb577

How long has the tank been up? Just a shot in the dark but do they have sufficient food supply?

6 months and there is GHA

12/03/2018, 06:41 PM	#1
Daddyrawg Registered Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 814	What factors effect snails to die?? Considering temp 79-80 and no hermit crabs and everything else thriving? Ive gotten 10 snails and 1 only has survived and they die within days... WHat the problem is? can it be the 80 temp? maybe pests im not aware of?

12/03/2018, 07:10 PM	#2
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	Salinity? Quality of supply? 80f does not cause snails to die but your temp could be off I suppose.. __________________ Who me?

12/04/2018, 12:18 PM	#8
Scott07 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 384	Do you know your magnesium level? High Mg can affect invertibrates, especially snails in my experience, negatively. __________________ 65 gallon mixed reef Good maintainence and husbandry is a cumulative effect, not a single event.

12/06/2018, 10:39 AM	#14
kevin21 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 2,208	Reefcleaners gives good acclimation advice as well. I like what was mentioned above too. If salinity is matched, follow the above advice. The more they drip acclimate, the more ammonia that can build and more stress on the snails. __________________ Kevin Current Tank Info: Waterbox 50g, Tunze 9004 dc skimmer, Vortech mp10, Kessil ap700

12/03/2018, 08:11 PM	#3
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Some species of snails like Margarite snails come from cooler waters and don't live too long, maybe a month or so in warmer waters like 78-80. What was the type of snails you lost?

12/04/2018, 12:42 AM	#5
FortyFour Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 371	Are you drip acclimating them?