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03/22/2012, 08:57 PM | #377 |
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I'm just pointing out hypocrisy and Jr. Highschool like behavior.
Seriously, if you have nothing useful and non-attacking to offer to someone elses thread, you should go find another thread. This is Chris' thread meant to blog about his tank. Whatever accusations or agenda you have should be taken privately. In my opinion, your posts really detract from what this thread is about anyway (psst ... it's not about you).
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I had fish rolling in the current barely respirating when the pH was 10, as soon as the pH was down to reasonable levels either via vinegar additions of CO2 additions (preferred), the fish snapped back into normal behavior. If I had messed with any other parameter, the fish would have died. Quote:
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03/23/2012, 10:41 AM | #380 |
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As an impartial observer Mammoth has some good points.
I asked what caused the ph spike and you ignored it Galleon. That's rude. Your water chemistry was off! I love minimalist high wattage sps tanks and follow several on our forum. My favorite is a Brazilian tank that runs a handful of ceramic rocks and a Bubble King for the main filtration. The Brazilian tank is bare botton with just enough rock to attach sps on. The tanks ph is stable. The reason I subscribed months ago to follow your thread, is because I hadn't seen it done before. Your tank planning and concept is outside of normal. Calling it thinking "out of the box" is being politically correct. To be honest, your thread intrigued me because of it's risk factor, which is a good thing. You know the saying about risks and rewards. If you had more water volume, rock, or fine aragonite it would've had better ph stability. A 500 gallon tank being compared to a 20l tank is trying to help out your friend Why did the spike happen? DID YOU TEST THE MAIN WATER PARAMETERS? Or did you panic and dump vinegar in? Then you did the large water change you should've done after you knew what caused the ph spike. Heres where I offer some constructive advice. You could get another ph spike if you haven't yet figured out the cause. Please buy an aquarium controller to alert you of ph swings. |
03/23/2012, 10:51 AM | #381 |
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I don't agree that your 500 gallon something system is in away comparable to a 20l with 2 piece of tonga branch.
Why? Methodologically, what is the difference that you see? The difference in water stability is huge. 500 gallons is 1892 liters and you say look at my tank it's run the same way. It just happens to be 94 times the water volume. What's the difference? Last edited by Todd100; 03/23/2012 at 11:04 AM. |
03/23/2012, 10:52 AM | #382 |
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Todd, reading is fundamental, he did answer in this thread what caused the spike.
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03/23/2012, 10:53 AM | #383 |
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03/23/2012, 10:54 AM | #384 |
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The trolls are multiplying. Stop feeding them!
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03/23/2012, 11:15 AM | #385 |
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So why not tell me? I don't want to read 16 pages and shouldn't have to. I asked earlier in a very open way. I asked GALLEON.
I'm not a troll. Why is being curious met with attack? What part of my post was wrong except it's 20 gallon and not 20L. That's still an ocean of difference Calling me a troll is trolling. You're a fanboy Vitz. |
03/23/2012, 11:19 AM | #386 | |
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I have a 300 gallon system I did the same thing to. Sure more water volume, but that also means that there was more kalk slurry to dump into the tank to end up getting the same problem - its all about ratios. Quote:
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03/23/2012, 11:27 AM | #388 |
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Vitz a fanboy. Now THAT is funny.
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03/23/2012, 11:37 AM | #390 |
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Jack, if you're ever up in Austin, shoot me a PM, come over, see the tank, have a beer.
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03/23/2012, 11:41 AM | #391 |
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I had planned on it, we are still in the process of moving from the house in San Antonio to the house in Marble Falls, the tank is already there but I am stuck in S/A getting ready for a garage sale. I won't send a pm, must be FedEx! LOL!
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Ah so you're moving closer to Austin then. Nice.
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What tf is a 'fanboy'?
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I grew up in Austin (Westlake boy) and though I have lived all over, Central Texas will always be home. Once we get settled we will be making the rounds.
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I will lighten up now that I haven't received any more hostility and had my question answered. Kalk overdose is an accident. Followed up by a rush to correct the problem fast with vinegar.
I'm sure Galleon if you had time sleep on it and thought more about the potential effects of that much carbon you would've tried to avoid it. I don't want to see any reefer fail ever. It can be demoralizing and ruin the enjoyment of having a personal slice of the ocean to be amazed by. A fanboy is a person that looks up to someone like they're a hero or rock star. They praise them, kiss butt, defend them, and say how great that person is. Sounds like your not one but you did call me a bad name so I take it back. The 500 gallon to 20 gallon comparison is the difference. I'm not emotional involved now in debating. I'm sorry for being condescending in my response to you Thales. It's just that the volume is the difference. Yes you could've had the same accident if you measured your kalk wrong. If you put 25 times the accidental amount of kalk that Galleon did you'd have the same problem. All I should've said is...smaller tanks are more prone to large water chemistry swings and more sensitive to additions and subtractions of essential elements. |
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Oops looks like i should've refreshed my page.
I don't think we'll see eye to eye any time soon Vitz. You don't know me or my struggles and successes. Everybody has issues and a daily struggle to be happy and I took to heart a quote in a sig line of an RC member here. It read along the lines of "Be kinder than you have to, you don't know what struggles that person is battling." I often forget this quote but try not to. Please keep that in mind for this community's sake (you are hostile without remorse). I'm a winning tennis coach and do everything I can to help the kid's in my community succeed. It's work that has more reward than just a paycheck. I'm also a small time real estate investor and put in a lot of work building up so far 3 properties when I'm not teaching. I try very hard in life and my family is proud of how I make a living. I'm not lazy, fat, have green skin, or live under a bridge. Last edited by Todd100; 03/23/2012 at 01:23 PM. |
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This wasn't a measurement problem or a stability problem it was a kalk/ATO issue, and the same thing could have happend (and has happened) on any size tank running the same methodology because everything, even the amount of kalk in the ATO reservoir is scaled to the size of the system. Galleon has taken steps to ensure it won't happen again.
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Hi...Sorry if this is the wrong place, but can anyone tell me what the best skimmer to have is?
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