Apex Dos vs GHL

Brandon0034 · 02/27/2017, 03:46 PM

I am setting up a new 150 gallon SPS tank and here are my options:
2 Apex DOS
Pros: All apex integrated, control panel will all match
Cons: Limited to one for AWC and the other for Ca,Alk. No channel for Mag.

1 Apex DOS and 1 GHL 4 channel Doser
Pros: DOS for AWC, GHL for Ca,Alk,Mag plus one extra channel
Cons: Not apex integrated

I'm almost 100% on getting at least 1 DOS because I want to do AWC and this allows for much higher flow rates than regular dosers. I think both will be great options but my main concern is will I need to dos Mag with AWC(planning on 15% weekly)? And will I regret not having the extra channels?

luvreefs23 · 02/27/2017, 04:34 PM

Hey Brandon, I was in same dilemma but I decided I will just end up needing 3 DOS units. 1 for water changes and 2 for the aquaforest balling method and I have an extra channel for something else...I think I'm gonna dose some brightwell aquatics liquid food for my coral and fish. Anyway if you look into the aquaforest products they combine their mabesium with their calcium and kh is by itself, their 3rd component is called reef Mineral salts which is a variety of micro elements. So I guess if you use the 2 out of the 3 that would solve your issue to go one way but I'd say to buy 1 DOS for your awc and the 3-4 channel stand alone ghl doser, still has an app and allows control where you are. I also like the dos due to plugging into the 1 link ports on my eb8-32 units saving me outlets.

luvreefs23 · 02/27/2017, 04:40 PM

Also, aquaforests theory is a healthy tank is going to use ca,kh, and mag in equal amounts so according to that water changes prolly won't keep you from having to dose mag and nothing else.

sus · 02/27/2017, 10:06 PM

I am having the same debate. I have purchased 1 DOS for AWC, but will likely go with the GHL SA for dosing. I thought I also read that the new GHL is capable of continuous use (AWC)? So I may end up selling the DOS and buying the SA GHL plus a slave which is cheaper than 3 DOS units and gives you 2 more pumps.

Brandon0034 · 02/27/2017, 10:39 PM

The GHL could be used for AWC but it says "small amounts". The GHL is only 8-45 ml/min so it would definitely cause premature wear on the unit and wouldn't be advised. For one gallon it would take 84 minutes of consecutive use on the GHL whereas the DOS only 15 min. Obviously I would split this up over multiple intervals throughout the day but for me to achieve 3-4 gallons a day the GHL would probably burn out and be on almost all day.

minus9 · 02/27/2017, 11:36 PM

What about the GHL Doser 2 SA and a genesis renew system? I have an apex and a GHL Doser 2 SA on my 22g and I'm upgrading to a 90g shallow soon and I'm strongly considering one of the genesis renew bundles for awc. Granted they're more than a DOS, but their sole design is for awc.
Just a thought.

reefwiser · 02/28/2017, 07:29 AM

For large systems a genesis renew would be a better choice for AWC.

02/27/2017, 03:46 PM	#1
Brandon0034 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 107	Apex Dos vs GHL I am setting up a new 150 gallon SPS tank and here are my options: 2 Apex DOS Pros: All apex integrated, control panel will all match Cons: Limited to one for AWC and the other for Ca,Alk. No channel for Mag. 1 Apex DOS and 1 GHL 4 channel Doser Pros: DOS for AWC, GHL for Ca,Alk,Mag plus one extra channel Cons: Not apex integrated I'm almost 100% on getting at least 1 DOS because I want to do AWC and this allows for much higher flow rates than regular dosers. I think both will be great options but my main concern is will I need to dos Mag with AWC(planning on 15% weekly)? And will I regret not having the extra channels?

02/28/2017, 07:29 AM	#7
reefwiser Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Louisville,Kentucky Posts: 1,208	For large systems a genesis renew would be a better choice for AWC. __________________ President Louisville Marine Aquarium Society. http://www.lmas.org/ The 3rd Annual Frag swap will be held September 23rd,2017 11 am till 3pm Saint Thomas Fellowship hall,9616 Westport Road,Louisvi

02/27/2017, 04:34 PM	#2
luvreefs23 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 758	Hey Brandon, I was in same dilemma but I decided I will just end up needing 3 DOS units. 1 for water changes and 2 for the aquaforest balling method and I have an extra channel for something else...I think I'm gonna dose some brightwell aquatics liquid food for my coral and fish. Anyway if you look into the aquaforest products they combine their mabesium with their calcium and kh is by itself, their 3rd component is called reef Mineral salts which is a variety of micro elements. So I guess if you use the 2 out of the 3 that would solve your issue to go one way but I'd say to buy 1 DOS for your awc and the 3-4 channel stand alone ghl doser, still has an app and allows control where you are. I also like the dos due to plugging into the 1 link ports on my eb8-32 units saving me outlets.

02/27/2017, 04:40 PM	#3
luvreefs23 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 758	Also, aquaforests theory is a healthy tank is going to use ca,kh, and mag in equal amounts so according to that water changes prolly won't keep you from having to dose mag and nothing else.

02/27/2017, 10:06 PM	#4
sus Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Arvada Colorado Posts: 606	I am having the same debate. I have purchased 1 DOS for AWC, but will likely go with the GHL SA for dosing. I thought I also read that the new GHL is capable of continuous use (AWC)? So I may end up selling the DOS and buying the SA GHL plus a slave which is cheaper than 3 DOS units and gives you 2 more pumps.

02/27/2017, 10:39 PM	#5
Brandon0034 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 107	The GHL could be used for AWC but it says "small amounts". The GHL is only 8-45 ml/min so it would definitely cause premature wear on the unit and wouldn't be advised. For one gallon it would take 84 minutes of consecutive use on the GHL whereas the DOS only 15 min. Obviously I would split this up over multiple intervals throughout the day but for me to achieve 3-4 gallons a day the GHL would probably burn out and be on almost all day.

02/27/2017, 11:36 PM	#6
minus9 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: I'm in the Valley, Dude! Posts: 1,349	What about the GHL Doser 2 SA and a genesis renew system? I have an apex and a GHL Doser 2 SA on my 22g and I'm upgrading to a 90g shallow soon and I'm strongly considering one of the genesis renew bundles for awc. Granted they're more than a DOS, but their sole design is for awc. Just a thought.