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Old 09/12/2017, 11:15 AM   #151
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Old 09/12/2017, 11:26 AM   #152
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Tank to be delivered tomorrow. Reassembled my 'big tank cart'. Not pretty, but does the trick. Getting it onto the stand in the garage will be easy...
I can probably run over if you need me...old and not very strong, but I'm a great supervisor!

BTW, tank should come surrounded in styrofoam... Should fit perfectly under tank on top of stand...don't let them destroy it!


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Old 09/12/2017, 11:30 AM   #153
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Me too, if you need help tomorrow, lemme know.


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Old 09/12/2017, 11:56 AM   #154
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Thanks chaps. I think I will be OK for tomorrow. My 15 year old and a couple of his football buddies are going to be around. The delivery is supposed to be on a smaller truck with a liftgate, so I'm thinking it will just be sliding the tank off the liftgate onto the dolly, and then sliding it off the dolly onto the stand. I mean, really, what could possibly go wrong ........ (already had a bit of good luck as the tank made it out before Irma made her way in).

It's the move in Oct that will require more help. I did a test run with a cardboard box (yeah, I am that anal) and there are annoying things like stair railings in the way (I will have to take it down). Getting the old tank out will be pretty easy, but getting the new tank in not so much.


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Old 09/12/2017, 11:59 AM   #155
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I can probably run over if you need me...old and not very strong, but I'm a great supervisor!

BTW, tank should come surrounded in styrofoam... Should fit perfectly under tank on top of stand...don't let them destroy it!
Yours came on a wood pallet, right? Was it a typical pallet, say 5 inches tall?


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Old 09/12/2017, 12:13 PM   #156
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Old 09/12/2017, 12:23 PM   #157
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Old 09/13/2017, 02:03 PM   #158
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Well, I guess I shouldn't have tempted fate by asking what could possibly go wrong .... even if I meant it tongue in cheek. The answer is that the truck showed up, but no lift gate. Fortunately, with a bit of ingenuity and the fact that the driver was an amateur power lifter (I kid not), we were able to wrestle it down the gang plank onto my cart. I'm no power lifter, but I am a robust 250 ....ish. BTW, bought one of those 1,000 lb. harbor freight lift carts .... awesome. Will be helpful in the woodshop even once the tanks are moved.


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Old 09/13/2017, 02:19 PM   #159
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Jeez, that thing looks absolutely massive!


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Old 09/13/2017, 02:56 PM   #160
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Isn't it though ..... But I guess if one is going up from a 265, why fool around. Keen to get it onto the stand in the garage and unwrap it. Peeking underneath the styro, build quality looks first rate.


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Old 09/13/2017, 07:08 PM   #161
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Big black rectangle . . .

Kind of reminds me of a classic old sci-fi film . . .

Exciting stuff!

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Old 09/13/2017, 07:48 PM   #162
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Simon, glad to see the tank arrived in one piece. My new tank shipped a couple of weeks ago. Got it off the trailer to find some tow motor jockey hit it with the forks. Back on the trailer it went. Waiting for them to build and ship a new one.


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Old 09/13/2017, 09:34 PM   #163
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That stinks. Mine pretty well packed and no damage. Got the tank onto the stand and unwrapped. Boy was it heavy. More pics to follow.


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Old 09/14/2017, 08:40 AM   #164
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Man, this sucker is heavy .....

Got the overflow dry fitted and now working on the wooden cap that will sit on the top rim. I realized the center rear leg of the stand blocks one of the bean animal drains, will have to add in a few 45 degree fittings. Otherwise the stand is just about perfect.


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Old 09/14/2017, 09:08 AM   #165
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Big black rectangle . . .

Kind of reminds me of a classic old sci-fi film . . .
Now that you mention it, there was this strange vibration coming from the crate .... and then my dog picked up a screwdriver ......


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Old 09/15/2017, 09:26 AM   #166
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After huffing and puffing the tank onto the stand in the garage (and said stand being much heavier than the current one) I'm having a few last minute doubts about my structural reinforcements. Tank will straddle a weight-bearing foundation wall, with one end supported under each corner with jack posts in an enclosed outside crawl space (more a 'walk' space ). Not appealing to do the same for the other end (it's over my office) so I have sistered one of the three joist with double thickness 3/4" plywood to the same 9" depth as the joist and put a jack post at the end of the plywood (the other end of the plywood sister sits on the foundation wall sill. Distance from said sill to the jack post is about 7'; end of tank will be about 4' over so the post is 3' away from the tank corners. It's this end that worries me. Not just the tank, but papa will be human jam if the tank comes through the floor (not that I really think it would - but I am a charter member of over-engineers anonymous). I think I'm going to sister a second joist and add another post - though still not easy way to get that post directly under the end edge of the tank.

When full, this thing is going to be 4,000 lbs. plus or minus a couple of hundred. The floor (minus the joist sistering) has held the 2,500 lbs. of my 265 without even a mm of deflection. My logic for the new tank is that one third is supported by the foundation wall (say 1,400 lbs.), another third by the dual jack posts in the crawl space (they're 'rated at 9,000 each), and the final third by my 3 joists. By this logic, they carried 850 without sistering, but will be asked to carry another 500 with sistering and posts. Seems reasonable to me?

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Old 09/23/2017, 06:54 PM   #167
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Stand/cabinet finally finished. It's modular, with much of the trim, doors and sides removable for easy lifting. Well ... easier. Did a dry run with a 96x30 frame and while tank will clear the doorway (as I knew it would) it won't clear the stairway balustrade. That will be a pain to remove. May actually revise the plan and take the tank in through the mud room. Will entail removing some Sheetrock and a couple of studs, but that will make the rout a straight 25' shot. Easier to replace a bit of Sheetrock than disassemble the stairs.


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Old 09/23/2017, 08:31 PM   #168
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Just standing there, filled with white protective sheeting, that is a thing of beauty!

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Old 09/24/2017, 10:11 PM   #169
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Couple more cabinet shots.


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Old 09/24/2017, 10:13 PM   #170
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Had to 'adjust' three of the drain pipes with 45 degree fittings in order to clear one of the stand legs. Shouldn't affect the drain capacity materially. I've installed two apex optical sensors into the overflow to alert me to high water conditions.


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Old 09/25/2017, 08:16 AM   #171
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Awesome stand. Love the trim around the top of the tank.


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Old 09/25/2017, 08:19 AM   #172
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Yeah, you've got some seriously impressive carpentry skills!


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Old 09/28/2017, 03:28 PM   #173
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Thanks chaps. Been building cabinets for a long time. BTW, looking like Saturday October 28th for tank moving/lugging day. Got me, my 15 yr old son and one friend so far; figure it's a six man job.


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Peeking at my schedule, it looks like I may actually have that _day_ off, though I'll be working the evening, into and through the following day. I think you could crayon me in for shouldering part of that load.

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Old 09/28/2017, 04:12 PM   #175
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Thanks chaps. Been building cabinets for a long time. BTW, looking like Saturday October 28th for tank moving/lugging day. Got me, my 15 yr old son and one friend so far; figure it's a six man job.
I'm game for that morning if that's possible.


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