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Unread 07/24/2009, 06:52 AM   #26
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck. I know the house was your major loss but that AH was a nice car (I restored a 64 TR4 15 years ago).
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I had the water valve on my almost brand new dishwasher stick open and flood my hardwood floor. Fortunately I caught it in time when my wife came home and said 'where's all that water in the basement coming from'. I had to replace about six or eight T&G boards. After that I got one of these (so I can sleep at night). They have a 3/8" compression fitting.
Floodstop The name doesn't refer to the OPs flood though (wish it could).


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Unread 07/24/2009, 06:56 AM   #27
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Wish there was a multi-quote feature on this forum, unless I'm missing something.

@Paul B. That's a great idea with the gfci and the water heater. I'm going to need to replace ours pretty soon anyways as it's just over 12 years old now. I could hook something like that up at the same time. I was just thinking the collection bucket idea might be a better choice instead of dumping straight into the drain. With that setup I wont need to look a good 4in of water in the tank because as soon as it goes over flowing it will shut it off and protect the pump from running dry.

@fishnub: Thanks. It's been a long road and still going. We're still waiting to find out if our house will get bought out or not. Luckily the governor here started something called the Jumpstart program and is paying on the mortgage of that house until they find out if it will get bought out. We would have had to foreclose on it if they weren't. I think it's harder on the wife then it is me. I'm just happy we have each other, our health, and looking forward to our new baby boy. I like to look forward and not backward.


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Unread 07/24/2009, 07:02 AM   #28
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Opps missed your post Alan. Yeah the AH was irreplaceable. I could eventually go out and buy another one but it would never be the same. It was more of the fact it came from my grandfather and he had bought it brand new in 67. I looked at what it would take to restore it after that but that flood water was so toxic and corrosive it ate through everything. I would have had to replace every single part basically. Metal that was up in the top part of my garage was rusting that didn't even get wet.


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Unread 07/24/2009, 09:09 AM   #29
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English that looks like a good item.
Jason I build them out of GFIs because I was an electrician and I have a bunch of them. They are only 12 bucks anyway. I just take a plastic pipe from the GFI outlet and use the neutral and ground from the load side of the GFI and lay that on the floor. or in a bucket for a float switch. It is of course not legal to do it that way but it works fine and as long as you use the neutral from the GFI you will not get a shock.


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Unread 07/24/2009, 08:27 PM   #30
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Got the gravel in today and rinsed out.

[IMG]http://i32.*******.com/jhbfvc.jpg[/IMG]

I really like the look of it. Almost looks crystalish or rock salt like. 50lbs filled in about an 1.5in and stopped there. Still deciding if I want to put any in the regufium or not. probably wont. I do have some dead rock in there though.

Here's an idea of what the size of the gravel looks like.

[IMG]http://i31.*******.com/2gtc5ua.jpg[/IMG]

Setup the rock the way I think I want it for right now. Took pics with just the actinic on as everything looks totally bleached out with everything on.

[IMG]http://i31.*******.com/x6msfk.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i27.*******.com/2a0nskk.jpg[/IMG]


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Unread 07/24/2009, 08:30 PM   #31
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opps, hit submit on accident. Here's a couple more.

[IMG]http://i26.*******.com/24edqx1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i29.*******.com/hsqq89.jpg[/IMG]


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Unread 07/24/2009, 09:24 PM   #32
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how much did you pay for the bag of dolomite?


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Unread 07/24/2009, 09:44 PM   #33
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Capn, Here's the order confirmation.

Order amount: $120.50
Shipping Cost: $87.34
Shipping Method: Ground with Shipping Insurance Weight=105

It was the only place that I could find dolomite that wasn't coated in an epoxy resin for freshwater tanks.


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Unread 07/24/2009, 10:11 PM   #34
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You're doing a RUGF aren't you?


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Unread 07/24/2009, 10:24 PM   #35
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Rae, that's the plan so far. I hear it's going to be a miserable experience though that I'll regret in about 40 years.


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Unread 07/25/2009, 05:04 AM   #36
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Oh thats your tank. I thought it was a picture of my tank.

Dolomite? RUGF? Are you crazy man?


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Unread 07/25/2009, 07:00 AM   #37
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I think it's a result of a mid-life crises. Some guys get a fancy sport car and feel rebelious... I get a RUGF w/ dolomite!


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Unread 07/25/2009, 07:21 AM   #38
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I am past my mid life crises and am into my late life crises


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Unread 07/25/2009, 11:48 AM   #39
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I am past my mid life crises and am into my late life crises
and you just bought a new boat


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Unread 07/25/2009, 11:51 AM   #40
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Rae, that's the plan so far. I hear it's going to be a miserable experience though that I'll regret in about 40 years.
please take pictures step by step.
Although Paul has been very detailed in his construction of a rugf pictures would help and I don't think he is about to take his apart to post some


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Unread 07/25/2009, 12:51 PM   #41
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Agreed. Do you have pics from before you put in the dolomite? How do you make it "reverse"? I couldn't see the uprights in those pics and thought maybe you'd gone DSB...


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Unread 07/25/2009, 08:37 PM   #42
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lol, keep bringing the comedy!

Here's the Perfecto Perfect-a-flow UGF after I took it out of the box and totally confused about all the parts.

[IMG]http://i25.*******.com/1zz056s.jpg[/IMG]


With a little guidance from Paul I decided to keep the flow low and used one tube for each section. Here it is in the tank with two small fountain pumps that just happen to provide a max of 53gph and could be adjusted for a slower flow if wanted. I kept them open for now. I believe they are quite one.

[img]http://i30.*******.com/20u5tgz.jpg[/img]

Now I'm curious... google searching....

Quite one model#200 53gph.
http://www.lifegardaquatics.com/prod...duct.php?id=10

I just have it shoved in the top but I think I'm going to get some 1/2" tubing and shove it down the main perfecto tubing. They just kind of lay on top right now and not super stable.

You can kind of see it behind the rock here

[img]http://i31.*******.com/x6msfk.jpg[/img]

and here

[img]http://i29.*******.com/hsqq89.jpg[/img]


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Unread 07/25/2009, 08:49 PM   #43
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Talked with my LFG yesterday (local fish guy as he doesn't have a store front anymore) and tagged along with him this morning to help out change some water and add some live rock with one of the companies around here he's contracted with to keep their tanks up. I got about 30ish gallons of water to add to my tank. Plus I got about 20-25lbs of live rock.

Filled up the tank and added the live rock. Had some more salt water mixing and topped off the tank. Then I spent the next 8 hours rearranging the live rock about a gazillion times. I think the wife was getting annoyed but she helped me in the end get it to where I like it. At least for now. What sucks is it ended up in about the same way it started with and went back to that configuration about 20 times.

Here's some shots with all the lights on. It is a bit smoky as I've stirred up a lot of stuff today and of course I'm curing the live rock right in my tank. It was curing over my LFG's place already too.

[IMG]http://i32.*******.com/1zqrer9.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i26.*******.com/6gwpdy.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i32.*******.com/2955m6p.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i28.*******.com/abq97t.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i27.*******.com/2sb64c2.jpg[/IMG]


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Unread 07/25/2009, 09:02 PM   #44
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Ah, I ended up getting two Taam SEIO Prop Super Flow Pump p530's and a SEIO Super Flow Pump m820. Right now I get nice swirly things going all over my tank with just those and about 230gph from my refugium that's going as well. Plus a nice little rippling on top of the water. I liked that the p530's were a bit smaller size physically then the koralia and liked the wide flow of the m820. You can kind of see them through the muck in the pictures above.

I don't have the skimmer up and running yet with the ozone and probably wont run the ozone for a little while until the tank does it's initial cycle. Still have to get the o-ring I discovered was missing somehow when I was taking everything apart and cleaning.

[IMG]http://i26.*******.com/22xoap.jpg[/IMG]

After I get that up and running I'll have a total of around 2435 gph not including the two 53gph pumps pushing into the RUGF. Not sure if that would calculate in that much.


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Unread 07/25/2009, 09:13 PM   #45
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Took some parameters this evening at about 8:30pm using an API test kit.

Temp: 84f
pH: 8.4
Ammonia: 0.5
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 160


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add salinity to that: ~34 w/ refractometer


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Unread 07/26/2009, 08:47 PM   #47
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Wife and I took a trip out of town today to go look at a three LFS's. Really wish my LFG still had a LFS. All three were pretty high priced and pushed selling me fish and additives right away even though I told them I just setup the tank yesterday. None of them had any Chaeto. One of them, Petland, actually had decent coral displays and healthy looking fish. They had some macro but not what I wanted.

Did a small water change today of around 3-gallons. Took me about 3m to do. Already had the salt water mixing from yesterday. Put in my drain tube into the tank with a siphon pump attached like you would use on a boat to prime gas to the engine. Just needed to give it one good pump and it was going. Then attached the feeder tubing into the mag 1200 pump that was mixing the salt and back up stairs by the tank I opened up the ball valve. Easy as pie. No dragging water around and up and down the stairs.



9pm water test
Temp 84
pH 7.8
Salinity 35
Ammonia 1.0
Nitrite 1.0
Nitrate 80


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Unread 07/27/2009, 08:03 PM   #48
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Much clearer today. Just noticed after transferring some pictures over I haven't hung up my pump to the refugium yet. It's now up by the outflow box for the skimmer. I did reposition the seio pumps a little. Not much though.

[IMG]http://i29.*******.com/16a7db5.jpg[/IMG]


[IMG]http://i25.*******.com/29xudth.jpg[/IMG]


[IMG]http://i27.*******.com/315dba9.jpg[/IMG]

Here's a closer pictures of the dolomite.
[IMG]http://i25.*******.com/2cz59w9.jpg[/IMG]


I know kind of boring. Did another small water change this afternoon. Will probably keep doing this until I get 0/0/0. Then cut back to checking parameters once a week and water changes once a week for a bit. Then cut back to once a month for both in the long run.

8:30pm Test
Temp 82 v
Salinity 35 -
pH 7.8 -
Ammonia 1 -
Nitrite 5 ^
Nitrate 80 -

Maybe I should start a thread freaking out about my Nitrite spike and high Nitrates?


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Unread 07/27/2009, 09:43 PM   #49
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looks like the cycling is well underway by the ammonia and nitrate numbers. Water changes are a good way to go to minimize the ammonia spike and protect whatever has hitch hiked in with your live rock


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Unread 07/27/2009, 10:18 PM   #50
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Talking about tanks flooding, yall really have me paranoid now. I just installed my sump/refugium. After using a canaster filter.

Nice looking rock work jason2459!


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