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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by biecacka

question i have a 220 with a lemon peel dwarf angel(yellow) and am wanting to add a yellow tang(s). my question is i know the tangs can be aggressive towards fish same color and similar shaped as them. is this safe to do or no
corey

If the order were reversed, it would not work. As it is it will. Always add the most aggressive fish last.

[Molli]

I'm back! haha. Considering that you've answered around 50 posts or so you might not recall me. Here's my list again.
2 firefish Male and female - to be first fish
1 male and female yellow watchman goby - added second (can I add their pistols with them? do the pistols need to be quarantined too or no?)
1-2 Pistol shrimp
1 orange back fairy wrasse
1 possum wrasse (probably white banded)
and 1 mandarin - 7-8 months after setup

My questions concern the possum wrasse mostly I guess. I googled around and read, but I seem to be only able to find three possum wrasses? Tanka's pygmy wrasse, White banded and yellow banded. Is the pink streak wrasse a possum? Are Wetmorella the only possum wrasse? And lastly, I read that they eat copepods and amphipods too, will he compete with my future mandarin or will a properly established tank support them both? My refugium is planned to be 13 gallons, for my 75g tank.
Sorry if this doesn't really fit in the thread, if it doesn't fit enough to be answered, point me in the right direction please

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Molli

I'm back!

From the movie "Independence Day?

haha. Considering that you've answered around 50 posts or so you might not recall me.

I get confused with all these configurations so thanks for reminding me (although I do remember you)

Here's my list again.
2 firefish Male and female - to be first fish
1 male and female yellow watchman goby - added second (can I add their pistols with them? do the pistols need to be quarantined too or no?)

No quarantine for pistol shrimp but make sure you match SG (using a refractometer) by drip acclimation. You can add them concurrently or after the gobies.

1-2 Pistol shrimp
1 orange back fairy wrasse
1 possum wrasse (probably white banded)
and 1 mandarin - 7-8 months after setup

My questions concern the possum wrasse mostly I guess. I googled around and read, but I seem to be only able to find three possum wrasses?

I only know of three, but there may be four

Tanka's pygmy wrasse, White banded and yellow banded. Is the pink streak wrasse a possum? Are Wetmorella the only possum wrasse?

Yes

And lastly, I read that they eat copepods and amphipods too, will he compete with my future mandarin or will a properly established tank support them both?

Should be no problem

My refugium is planned to be 13 gallons, for my 75g tank.
Sorry if this doesn't really fit in the thread, if it doesn't fit enough to be answered, point me in the right direction please

[Molli]

Thank you so very much Steve! I think my list is settled so I might be done on your thread, but no promises! It will feel like forever through all the quarantine before I finally get to observe the pygmy wrasse and the mandarin, but the day will come!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Molli

Thank you so very much Steve! I think my list is settled so I might be done on your thread, but no promises! It will feel like forever through all the quarantine before I finally get to observe the pygmy wrasse and the mandarin, but the day will come!

I am always glad to help you. Remember, nothing good ever happens quickly in this hobby!

[Po Sei Don]

Looking for some advice on my next fish if at all possible.

I have a 24 gal nano with lps and zoas.
2 Ocellaris Clowns
Yasha Shrimp Goby
Green Mandarin
????

Would my tank be able to handle another fish in its bioload? I do have a HOB skimmer and my water quality is my top priority ( ph-8.2, Alk 9, Calc 420 ppm, Amm 0, Trite 0, Trate under 10).

Any suggestions for what I could add?

[harrriszm]

220gal, 75 gal sump half of which is a refugium. vertex 280 skimmer, vertex media reactor running rowaphos and carbon, reeflo dart hybrid pump, 2 ATI T5s 75 mixed LEDs. 150lbs live rock

Current inhabitants:
Lots of different types of snail and small hermits, 2 saddle back (fire) clowns, 3 peppermint shrimp, 2 Fighting Conch, 1 Red Mithrax Crab, 1 Porcelain Crab, 1 Blue Sand Sifting Star, 1 Nudibranch Lettuce

Corals: Mushrooms, Zoas, 2 hammer, 2 torch, 2 frog spawn, 1 Pink Pulsing Xenia, 1 Feather Pink Xenia, 1 Purple Acropora

Wishlist: 1 blond naso tang, 1 achilles tang, 1 powder blue tang, yellow watchman golby>pistol shrimp pair, pair of black and white clowns, 1 flame angel, fire shrimp, skunk cleaner shrimp.

I am willing to get rid of the saddle back clowns for the black and whites.
What is the max number of fish I should add?
What are some other good choices to go along with this group that I have picked, or the substitions that need to be made?
Thanks

[jws0318]

sorry - double post

[f3honda4me]

First, this is my setup:

75g tank, 25g sump, refugium w/chaeto, 2x 1050gph powerheads, 80 pounds live rock, 2 inch sand bed, protein skimmer.

I currently have a bunch of various snails (nassarius, nerite, trochus, cerith), a florida fighting conch, 3 peppermint shrimp, and an urchin. I have a few softies already and plan to add more softies/LPS in this tank.

I currently have 2 percula clowns.


I am looking to add in this order (each line would be purchased/added at the same time):

2x carpenter flasher wrasse (1 male 1 female)
2x red head solon fairy wrasse
1x diamond watchman goby
1x orchid dottyback, 1x sunrise dottyback (tank bred)
1x banggai cardinal (tank bred), 1x orange lined cardinalfish




How does that look? Is this amount of fish ok for my setup/size?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Po Sei Don

Looking for some advice on my next fish if at all possible.

I have a 24 gal nano with lps and zoas.
2 Ocellaris Clowns
Yasha Shrimp Goby
Green Mandarin
????

Would my tank be able to handle another fish in its bioload? I do have a HOB skimmer and my water quality is my top priority ( ph-8.2, Alk 9, Calc 420 ppm, Amm 0, Trite 0, Trate under 10).

Any suggestions for what I could add?

We do not normally offer recommendations but will be happy to provide information on fish stocking compatibility both with each other and with the environment you are providing. The two clownfish, once sexually mature, will own that sized tank and make it difficult for any water column fish. Also, maintaining a mandarin in your sized tank will be very, very difficult.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by harrriszm

220gal, 75 gal sump half of which is a refugium. vertex 280 skimmer, vertex media reactor running rowaphos and carbon, reeflo dart hybrid pump, 2 ATI T5s 75 mixed LEDs. 150lbs live rock

Current inhabitants:
Lots of different types of snail and small hermits, 2 saddle back (fire) clowns,

One of the more aggressive, any other clownfish would not be tolerated

3 peppermint shrimp, 2 Fighting Conch, 1 Red Mithrax Crab, 1 Porcelain Crab, 1 Blue Sand Sifting Star, 1 Nudibranch Lettuce

Corals: Mushrooms, Zoas, 2 hammer, 2 torch, 2 frog spawn, 1 Pink Pulsing Xenia, 1 Feather Pink Xenia, 1 Purple Acropora

Wishlist: 1 blond naso tang, 1 achilles tang, 1 powder blue tang, yellow watchman golby>pistol shrimp pair, pair of black and white clowns, 1 flame angel, fire shrimp, skunk cleaner shrimp.

It is difficult to predict the outcome of those tangs in the same tank. The naso will grow large but is fairly docile, normally I would advise a ten foot tank. The other two tangs probably would work, but I suggest reading the primer in the reef fish forum on their care. Flame angels are not reef safe but may do ok with what you have.


I am willing to get rid of the saddle back clowns for the black and whites.
What is the max number of fish I should add?

That is impossible to answer. If fish feel crowded, they diminish their number.

What are some other good choices to go along with this group that I have picked, or the substitions that need to be made?
Thanks

I don't normally make recommendations but will be happy to comment and your proposed fish list.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by f3honda4me

First, this is my setup:

75g tank, 25g sump, refugium w/chaeto, 2x 1050gph powerheads, 80 pounds live rock, 2 inch sand bed, protein skimmer.

I currently have a bunch of various snails (nassarius, nerite, trochus, cerith), a florida fighting conch, 3 peppermint shrimp, and an urchin. I have a few softies already and plan to add more softies/LPS in this tank.

I currently have 2 percula clowns.


I am looking to add in this order (each line would be purchased/added at the same time):

2x carpenter flasher wrasse (1 male 1 female)
2x red head solon fairy wrasse One of the more aggressive fairy wrasses
1x diamond watchman goby
1x orchid dottyback, 1x sunrise dottyback (tank bred) In general, dottybacks and fairy and flasher wrasses do not mix well. If the P. fridmani is added last, it may work
1x banggai cardinal (tank bred), 1x orange lined cardinalfish




How does that look? Is this amount of fish ok for my setup/size?

[Maine_fisher]

Tank Information

57g tank,
20g sump with refugium
MP10 Vortech pump
2 inch sand bed
Skimmer
biopellet reactor

Inverts: TYPICAL CLEAN UP CREW

FISH WISH LIST:

1x Mystery wrasse
2x Mardrain (Male and Female)
1x Fire Fish
1x PJ Cardinal
2x Anthias
1x Mimic tang

Thanks!!!!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Maine_fisher

Tank Information

57g tank,
20g sump with refugium
MP10 Vortech pump
2 inch sand bed
Skimmer
biopellet reactor

Inverts: TYPICAL CLEAN UP CREW

FISH WISH LIST:

1x Mystery wrasse copepod eater not compatible with a mandarin
2x Mardrain (Male and Female) One would be difficult, a pair almost impossible to maintain in your sized tank
1x Fire Fish should be introduced first
1x PJ Cardinal
2x Anthias One requires a 75 gallon tank, two really need a 125 gallon tank
1x Mimic tang No tang in this sized tank

Thanks!!!!

[Maine_fisher]

57g tank,
20g sump with refugium
MP10 Vortech pump
2 inch sand bed
Skimmer
biopellet reactor

Inverts: TYPICAL CLEAN UP CREW

FISH WISH LIST:

1x Mystery wrasse copepod eater not compatible with a mandarin
2x Mardrain (Male and Female) One would be difficult, a pair almost impossible to maintain in your sized tank
1x Fire Fish should be introduced first 1x PJ Cardinal
2x Anthias One requires a 75 gallon tank, two really need a 125 gallon tank
1x Mimic tang No tang in this sized tank

Okay Revised List:

1x Fire Fish - INTRODUCED FIRST!
2x Percula Clowns (from ORA)
1x Watchman Goby
3x PJ Cardinals
2x Neon gobies
1x ORA tank raised mandrain - ORA Claim in a quiet tank they will eat other foods than cocopod
1x Golden Pygmy Angel
Still learning...please be patient. I definately don't want to make a mistake.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Maine_fisher

57g tank,
20g sump with refugium
MP10 Vortech pump
2 inch sand bed
Skimmer
biopellet reactor

Inverts: TYPICAL CLEAN UP CREW

FISH WISH LIST:

1x Mystery wrasse copepod eater not compatible with a mandarin
2x Mardrain (Male and Female) One would be difficult, a pair almost impossible to maintain in your sized tank
1x Fire Fish should be introduced first 1x PJ Cardinal
2x Anthias One requires a 75 gallon tank, two really need a 125 gallon tank
1x Mimic tang No tang in this sized tank

Okay Revised List:

1x Fire Fish - INTRODUCED FIRST!
2x Percula Clowns (from ORA)
1x Watchman Goby
3x PJ Cardinals
2x Neon gobies
1x ORA tank raised mandrain - ORA Claim in a quiet tank they will eat other foods than cocopod
1x Golden Pygmy Angel
Still learning...please be patient. I definately don't want to make a mistake.

Don't worry, I am patient. I have been where you are. Unfortunately I cannot recommend an ORA mandarin although I know about them. Search for experiences on them, which, unfortunately, are mixed. I think the neon gobies must be a pair to coexist. Otherwise, a bit heavy but fine.

[f3honda4me]

Ok revised my list based on my last feedback.


First, this is my setup:

75g tank, 25g sump, refugium w/chaeto, 2x 1050gph powerheads, 80 pounds live rock, 2 inch sand bed, protein skimmer.

I currently have a bunch of various CUC snails, a florida fighting conch, 3 peppermint shrimp, and an urchin. I have a few softies already and plan to add more softies/LPS in this tank.

I currently have 2 percula clowns.

I am looking to add in this order (each line would be purchased/added at the same time):

2x carpenter flasher wrasse (1 male 1 female)
1x diamond watchman goby
1x banggai cardinal (tank bred), 1x orange lined cardinalfish
1x bartlett's anthias
1x tang (either whitetail bristletooth or bristletooth tomini)

My tank is a 48" wide 75g. If the tang is too much for my tank, then I'd probably change that to:

1x royal gramma basslet
2x neon blue goby

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by f3honda4me

Ok revised my list based on my last feedback.


First, this is my setup:

75g tank, 25g sump, refugium w/chaeto, 2x 1050gph powerheads, 80 pounds live rock, 2 inch sand bed, protein skimmer.

I currently have a bunch of various CUC snails, a florida fighting conch, 3 peppermint shrimp, and an urchin. I have a few softies already and plan to add more softies/LPS in this tank.

I currently have 2 percula clowns.

I am looking to add in this order (each line would be purchased/added at the same time):

2x carpenter flasher wrasse (1 male 1 female) be sure tank is covered with something with 1/4 inch holes (mesh)
1x diamond watchman goby
1x banggai cardinal (tank bred), 1x orange lined cardinalfish
1x bartlett's anthias
1x tang (either whitetail bristletooth or bristletooth tomini)

My tank is a 48" wide 75g.

If you pick one of the Ctenochaetus tangs it would work

If the tang is too much for my tank, then I'd probably change that to:

1x royal gramma basslet
2x neon blue goby

The option would be fine as well but I believe the neon gobies must be a mated pair to work

[f3honda4me]

Steve thanks so much. You truly are such a huge help for us newbies who have no idea on stocking! I can't tell you how much I have appreciated your help!

As for my flasher wrasse, I have eggcrate for covering the tank. I also have glass tops if necessary.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by f3honda4me

Steve thanks so much. You truly are such a huge help for us newbies who have no idea on stocking! I can't tell you how much I have appreciated your help!

As for my flasher wrasse, I have eggcrate for covering the tank. I also have glass tops if necessary.

Egg crate does not work! The holes are just too large. You need a mesh top with 1/4 inch holes (BRS and other vendors sell the supplies to make this).

[Beefy_Reefy]

Snorvich great thread! It's been a great read.
I'm brand spankin new to the hobby and have a custom tank being made. So I'm preparing my wish list.
Tank size 150 gallons (60x24x24)
Various corals / CUC

What do you think of my fish lineup?
2 Mandarin (trained to eat other food besides copepods)
2 B&W Percula
2 Kaudern's Cardinal
1 Orange Stripe Prawn Goby (paired with Randalls Shrimp)
1 Lawnmower Blenny

Any problems with lineup so far?
Do you have any suggestions on some other fish I can add that will not be problematic? Or am I pushing the max number of fish?

[Casey8]

I have a fire and a purple goby, can I get a yasha goby without them putting up a fight ?
I also have 2 pajama cardinals, they are fighting with each other sometimes, so obviously they are not a mate. Can I get a bangai cardinal ?

[f3honda4me]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Egg crate does not work! The holes are just too large. You need a mesh top with 1/4 inch holes (BRS and other vendors sell the supplies to make this).

Good to know!

[homehobby]

I know this is a forum for what to purchase. I guess I am asking if I made the wrong one already. I am very new to the salt water tank experience. I started my tank about 2 months again. I have a 29gal with 2 ocellaris clowns, 1 diamondback sand shifter goby (so much fun watching him re-decorate the tank), 1 firefish goby, 1 fiddler crab and my issue now is my sharknose goby. I had him for about two weeks. The first week he was swimming around and relaxing on the LR and now for this past week I can not find him. I don't want to stress my other fish by moving rocks to check. Would something in my tank have eaten him or is he really hiding. I should also mention that all of my other fish are doing fantastic!! I am scheduled to do a water change this weekend so I may search more at that time. I am really just going by what I am told at my local pet store. Thoughts??

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Beefy_Reefy

Snorvich great thread! It's been a great read.
I'm brand spankin new to the hobby and have a custom tank being made. So I'm preparing my wish list.
Tank size 150 gallons (60x24x24)
Various corals / CUC

What do you think of my fish lineup?
2 Mandarin (trained to eat other food besides copepods) I do not advocate this for a variety of reasons. ORA mandarins have had mixed results, do a search and read for yourself. Mandarins metabolism requires constant feeding rather than once or twice a day feeding. Mandarins "trained" this way may or may not be able to sustain themselves in the long run. Success with this fish is one year.
2 B&W Percula
2 Kaudern's Cardinal For two, must be a male plus female pair
1 Orange Stripe Prawn Goby (paired with Randalls Shrimp)
1 Lawnmower Blenny

Any problems with lineup so far?
Do you have any suggestions on some other fish I can add that will not be problematic? Or am I pushing the max number of fish?

Bioload is not a problem in your sized tank with that fish list. I don't make suggestions but would be happy to provide feedback on any fish list provided.