Juvenile Tang; Please Identify:)

21Reefman · 03/20/2006, 04:24 AM

I bought this juvenile tang thinking it was a an Atlantic Blue, (the LFS told me it was a yellow tang, hehe) it looked like this;

Now, only 2 weeks later is is showing some markings that are new to me, is it an Antantic Blue?

atzak · 03/20/2006, 06:43 AM

That's the atlantic blue, a very pretty one also. That;s changing pretty quick.

dustin Combs · 03/20/2006, 06:49 AM

you scored if you got the Atlantic blue for a yellow!! sometimes I enjoy shopping at LFS. Sometimes it does have benefits.

LOTUS50GOD · 03/20/2006, 08:02 AM

sweet looking tang....

jpslickorocks · 03/20/2006, 08:21 AM

that is an easy ID...

Freaking cool!! Nice score if you got it for the price of a yellow

pnsnowboard · 03/20/2006, 09:27 AM

beautiful fish

Amphiprion · 03/20/2006, 09:35 AM

It looks like a juvenile Kole tang, not an atlantic blue.

SVXH6 · 03/20/2006, 09:43 AM

im going to agree with Amphiprion on this one.. look at the mouth, its a dead give away.. also, in my area atlantic blue tangs are cheaper than yellows..typical price YT $26 to $32 and for a atlantic blue $18 to $28..

tomasga · 03/20/2006, 09:48 AM

Correct me if I am wrong but the isn't the KOLE tang mroe of a brown color that yellow. It does look similar in that it has the dots on the frontal area.....

Amphiprion · 03/20/2006, 09:51 AM

Juvenile Kole tangs are a bright yellow with blue eyes, just like the atl. blue. Like SVXH6 said, the mouth is the primary difference, as the Ctenochaetus group (kole is part of) have outward projecting mouths and specialized "teeth" as compared to other tangs.

SDguy · 03/20/2006, 10:12 AM

Definitely NOT an atlantic blue. It's a bristletooth for sure.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ctenocha.htm

Great pics, BTW.

21Reefman · 03/20/2006, 12:45 PM

SDguy, thanks for the link.
I did see the bristle nose mouth on him and the "kole" yellow eye. I had not ever seen a kole with spots instead of lines. I saw a few in the article you sent.
My conclusion is, it's a kole tang, only time will tell if it will have the lines like most kole's. I hope it is the type of bristle nose that will have spots instead of your avg kole tang.

Thanks to all for the help!!

SVXH6, yes the Atlantic blues are cheaper than yellows here too, I found this out after seeing a few true atlantics at other stores. That was surprising to me. I paid $25, as opposed to $29 which was what other stores had the Yellows priced at, and their Atlantic Blues were adults for $24.

I also noted that when I did see an Atlantic Blue, It was much more round in body shape than the bristle nose, even as a juv.

Thanks again, for all the info!!

Psyire · 03/20/2006, 03:49 PM

Yeah, definately not an Atlantic Blue.

(mine dosen't have those spots)

jdm1114 · 01/11/2017, 08:27 AM

It's a squaretail bristletooth

TigeBell · 01/11/2017, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm1114

It's a squaretail bristletooth

+1

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...94&pcatid=2994

scooter31707 · 01/11/2017, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm1114

it's a squaretail bristletooth

+2

LED Jack · 01/11/2017, 11:39 AM

Yeah not at Atlantic Blue.

nereefpat · 01/11/2017, 11:54 AM

Well, the fish is 11 years old, so I bet he knows by now.

roli112 · 01/11/2017, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nereefpat

Well, the fish is 11 years old, so I bet he knows by now.

LMAO if he even still has the fish, a lot happens in 11 years!!!

scooter31707 · 01/11/2017, 12:21 PM

Oh Wow!!! I did not notice how old this thread was. LMAO!!

LED Jack · 01/11/2017, 05:11 PM

Why do people revive these old as time threads!

Since 2006 I have owned 4 different house and divorced twice. But I will add that I married my ex-wife again so one of those divorces don't count........lol

hogfanreefer · 01/11/2017, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm1114

It's a squaretail bristletooth

^this!

03/20/2006, 04:24 AM	#1
21Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago/NW IN Posts: 403	Juvenile Tang; Please Identify:) I bought this juvenile tang thinking it was a an Atlantic Blue, (the LFS told me it was a yellow tang, hehe) it looked like this; Now, only 2 weeks later is is showing some markings that are new to me, is it an Antantic Blue? __________________ "The significant problems that we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." Albert Einstein

03/20/2006, 06:43 AM	#2
atzak Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Jupiter NC Posts: 1,191	That's the atlantic blue, a very pretty one also. That;s changing pretty quick. __________________ smokers suck butts Current Tank Info: 210 reef, 55 gallon planted fresh water

03/20/2006, 08:02 AM	#4
LOTUS50GOD Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,210	sweet looking tang.... __________________ Vertex Alpha 300 Skimmer, AI SOL Blue, Neptune Apex Controlled 360 gallon Reef Current Tank Info: born 6/26/2008- 340 reef + 100 fuge, 300lbs of figi LR

03/20/2006, 08:21 AM	#5
jpslickorocks Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Scottsdale, Az. Posts: 2,164	that is an easy ID... Freaking cool!! Nice score if you got it for the price of a yellow __________________ We are alone, absolutely alone on this chance planet: and, amid all the forms of life that surround us, not one, excepting the dog, has made an alliance with us. Current Tank Info: I do at least five water changes a day

03/20/2006, 09:35 AM	#7
Amphiprion Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 6,611	It looks like a juvenile Kole tang, not an atlantic blue. __________________ You've done it now, haven't you? Current Tank Info: 40g breeder patch reef w/ seagrass; 2-250w XM 10K; Vortech MP40wES & MP10wES; BM Curve 7 skimmer; carbon & occasional GFO

03/20/2006, 06:49 AM	#3
dustin Combs Moved On Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: OKC,OK. Posts: 1,547	you scored if you got the Atlantic blue for a yellow!! sometimes I enjoy shopping at LFS. Sometimes it does have benefits.

03/20/2006, 09:27 AM	#6
pnsnowboard Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: aurora CO Posts: 867	beautiful fish

03/20/2006, 09:43 AM	#8
SVXH6 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,685	im going to agree with Amphiprion on this one.. look at the mouth, its a dead give away.. also, in my area atlantic blue tangs are cheaper than yellows..typical price YT $26 to $32 and for a atlantic blue $18 to $28..

03/20/2006, 09:48 AM	#9
tomasga Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sunrise, FL Posts: 168	Correct me if I am wrong but the isn't the KOLE tang mroe of a brown color that yellow. It does look similar in that it has the dots on the frontal area..... __________________ --- 75 ALL Glass In wall Reef--- You will ReSpEcT my authoritAYYYYY CRAB.... Click on my red house to see my reef Current Tank Info: 75 in wall, 40 sump, 30 fuge

03/20/2006, 09:51 AM	#10
Amphiprion Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 6,611	Juvenile Kole tangs are a bright yellow with blue eyes, just like the atl. blue. Like SVXH6 said, the mouth is the primary difference, as the Ctenochaetus group (kole is part of) have outward projecting mouths and specialized "teeth" as compared to other tangs. __________________ You've done it now, haven't you? Current Tank Info: 40g breeder patch reef w/ seagrass; 2-250w XM 10K; Vortech MP40wES & MP10wES; BM Curve 7 skimmer; carbon & occasional GFO

03/20/2006, 10:12 AM	#11
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Definitely NOT an atlantic blue. It's a bristletooth for sure. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ctenocha.htm Great pics, BTW. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

03/20/2006, 12:45 PM	#12
21Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago/NW IN Posts: 403	SDguy, thanks for the link. I did see the bristle nose mouth on him and the "kole" yellow eye. I had not ever seen a kole with spots instead of lines. I saw a few in the article you sent. My conclusion is, it's a kole tang, only time will tell if it will have the lines like most kole's. I hope it is the type of bristle nose that will have spots instead of your avg kole tang. Thanks to all for the help!! SVXH6, yes the Atlantic blues are cheaper than yellows here too, I found this out after seeing a few true atlantics at other stores. That was surprising to me. I paid $25, as opposed to $29 which was what other stores had the Yellows priced at, and their Atlantic Blues were adults for $24. I also noted that when I did see an Atlantic Blue, It was much more round in body shape than the bristle nose, even as a juv. Thanks again, for all the info!! __________________ "The significant problems that we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." Albert Einstein

03/20/2006, 03:49 PM	#13
Psyire Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,870	Yeah, definately not an Atlantic Blue. (mine dosen't have those spots)

01/11/2017, 08:27 AM	#14
jdm1114 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Delaware Valley, PA Posts: 415	It's a squaretail bristletooth

01/11/2017, 11:39 AM	#17
LED Jack Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Evansville, Indiana Posts: 152	Yeah not at Atlantic Blue.

01/11/2017, 11:54 AM	#18
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	Well, the fish is 11 years old, so I bet he knows by now. __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

01/11/2017, 12:21 PM	#20
scooter31707 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,971	Oh Wow!!! I did not notice how old this thread was. LMAO!!

01/11/2017, 05:11 PM	#21
LED Jack Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Evansville, Indiana Posts: 152	Why do people revive these old as time threads! Since 2006 I have owned 4 different house and divorced twice. But I will add that I married my ex-wife again so one of those divorces don't count........lol