automatic water change

[DRThompson]

these ideas wont work if you have an ATO, your going to need some kind of float switch. Try autotopoff dot com for a low cost solution that will turn off the stenner pump when your water is low in the fresh saltwater container

[DRThompson]

Originally Posted by jg93

I got my Stenner, hooked it all up, it's working great.

Also - since this thing is pretty slow - is there any concern your just diluting the water change? Did you increase your water change to account for this?

Thanks a ton, I'm really happy to finally have this as a solution to lugging buckets up a flight of stairs.

Jeff

The difference between 1% per day and 30% per month is about a 5% loss overall. If you want to compensate you could do a little more than 1%; generally it is insignificant.

[AquamanE]

I'm hooking up a Ato in SW bin. It will shut down awc pump if it gets low.

Regarding delution question there is a article in chemistry forum by Holmes Farley title water changes that goes over that concern.

[mrx66699]

Originally Posted by DRThompson

these ideas wont work if you have an ATO, your going to need some kind of float switch. Try autotopoff dot com for a low cost solution that will turn off the stenner pump when your water is low in the fresh saltwater container

yes if an ato is present placing near the top will not matter and a float switch will not work either as it will never go off........whatever the draw is removing the ato will now compensate and fill with ro .....you would need some kind of pressure switch that can read the outgoing and ingoing lines and if pressure is lost it kills the pump and sends out an alarm

[DRThompson]

I ordered one of these on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131051696064...84.m1439.l2649

if link doesnt work do a search for "Vertical /Horizon Magnetic ABS Water Flow Switch" on ebay. I have not received it yet (slow boat from china) so I'm not sure it will work. This would go in-line to detect water in the line. Assuming it works, it will tell me when no water is in the line and work like a switch to turn off the stenner pump.

[DRThompson]

Originally Posted by AquamanE

I'm hooking up a Ato in SW bin. It will shut down awc pump if it gets low.

Regarding delution question there is a article in chemistry forum by Holmes Farley title water changes that goes over that concern.

I'm having problems finding one that will reach the bottom. My barrel is 4' tall; I cant find a switch with wires that long.

[DRThompson]

Originally Posted by mrx66699

yes if an ato is present placing near the top will not matter and a float switch will not work either as it will never go off........whatever the draw is removing the ato will now compensate and fill with ro .....you would need some kind of pressure switch that can read the outgoing and ingoing lines and if pressure is lost it kills the pump and sends out an alarm

float switch has to go in the bottom of the water change barrel, not sump.

[rps3]

For ATO situation, most probably have controllers already whom are doing the auto water change. You could always program the return pump to shut off as well as the ATO while the water change kicks on.

As for the mixing barrel running dry, SOL... keep a watch on it. Dave maybe you can extend the wires and use silicone to encase/cover the wires. That or get a Uniseal and use a float switch like this, it's HVAC stuff and cement the slip fitting so it doesn't pop out and spill the salt water all over. Not a bad idea huh? LOL

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HVAC-Primary...item4ac245089b

[rps3]

Oh yeah be sure to flip it upside down or I believe you can reverse mount the floater ring so when it sinks down it will trigger.

[AquamanE]

Originally Posted by DRThompson

I'm having problems finding one that will reach the bottom. My barrel is 4' tall; I cant find a switch with wires that long.

To clarify am not hooking up an ATO, but a floatswitch from autotopoff.

Dr- a had similar concerns as my Brute is like 3 feet tall. I odered a horizontal floatswitch, that i will drill into my Brute, at the bottom approx 2-3 inches from bottom. So wires will be outside, and line run to a Breakout Box, to APEX. When that switch turns on Stenner will be shut down.

[rps3]

I gave myself an idea, I'll be teeing off my mixing tank with a John Guest fitting to draw water to the pump and a float valve to kill it. Eddie, I want my breakout box back!

[AquamanE]

Originally Posted by rps3

I gave myself an idea, I'll be teeing off my mixing tank with a John Guest fitting to draw water to the pump and a float valve to kill it. Eddie, I want my breakout box back!

Your getting nothing back, but please explain.

[rps3]

Originally Posted by AquamanE

Your getting nothing back, but please explain.

My top off container is plumbed to recirculate for 30 mins 4 times a day. I'll be adding a tee for a float switch as well as a john guest fitting for drawing water to the top off system. I'll have to get another breakout box or build one since Eddie stole mine. The float valve will be connected to the breakout box/apex to kill the auto water change when the level is low.

In your case Eddie, just use a uniseal on your mix tank and use a pipe to the HVAC float switch. Easy isn't it?

[dread240]

I have 6 switches I've yet to tie into the apex fully, but that's happening over the next week or so. 3 are going in the sump, 1 in the ATO, 1 in the NSW, and 1 in the skimmer.

Middle float will control my ato

During AWC process, the ATO will be disabled, lower float will serve as a new water not getting in or not getting in fast enough, upper float will determine the opposite. My return chamber is very small so changes happen fast in it

[AquamanE]

Originally Posted by rps3

My top off container is plumbed to recirculate for 30 mins 4 times a day. I'll be adding a tee for a float switch as well as a john guest fitting for drawing water to the top off system. I'll have to get another breakout box or build one since Eddie stole mine. The float valve will be connected to the breakout box/apex to kill the auto water change when the level is low.

In your case Eddie, just use a uniseal on your mix tank and use a pipe to the HVAC float switch. Easy isn't it?

I think my method will be just as simple and effective. Float switch comes with seal.

http://www.autotopoff.com/Floatswitches/horizontal.jpg

[rps3]

Originally Posted by AquamanE

I think my method will be just as simple and effective. Float switch comes with seal.

http://www.autotopoff.com/Floatswitches/horizontal.jpg

That's another option in the AC world. There's always options.

[Tickle]

Originally Posted by Sacohen

DRThompson;

I'm not sure where you see that this seller is out of stock.
I just looked at the EBay listing I bought it from and he still has "More than 10 available / 30 sold"

Can you maybe PM me the sellers name? I just ebay searched the part number listed and only 1 guy is selling them, if its the same guy he caught on cause he is selling them for $75 a throw now.

You wanna talk about weather and work? Im a farmer and the this morning at 4am in Wisconsin it was -10. Ill take 40-50-60 any day gladly

[DRThompson]

Originally Posted by Tickle

Can you maybe PM me the sellers name? I just ebay searched the part number listed and only 1 guy is selling them, if its the same guy he caught on cause he is selling them for $75 a throw now.

You wanna talk about weather and work? Im a farmer and the this morning at 4am in Wisconsin it was -10. Ill take 40-50-60 any day gladly

I never found it ....original sellers name was uncgenius.

[Tickle]

Originally Posted by DRThompson

I never found it ....original sellers name was uncgenius.

I just sent the seller I found on ebay a offer of 53 per and he accpeted, http://www.ebay.com/itm/221288589068

thats the link, this thread just saved me a ton of money and i didnt need to switch my car insurance!

[DRThompson]

Originally Posted by Tickle

I just sent the seller I found on ebay a offer of 53 per and he accpeted, http://www.ebay.com/itm/221288589068

thats the link, this thread just saved me a ton of money and i didnt need to switch my car insurance!

saw that one, remember, you still need a second head.

[Tickle]

I bought 2 units

[rps3]

I think the guy a majority of bought from pulled it for now since the holiday is here. I bought both of them for $53.00 shipped. Wait till next year guys, he will probably relist them unless he sold out.

[DRThompson]

Originally Posted by Tickle

I bought 2 units

dont forget to get new tubing; not sure what those were used for but in the orig listing they were used for ink.

[Sacohen]

Tickle I just PM'ed you the link.

It does seem to be hidden because you can't find it throw a regular search, but it's still active and he still has "more than 10 available".

[Tickle]

I just got your pm, it appears he no longer has any, if you look at the top of the post it states "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available." Maybe there is some error on ebays end? Still there is a alternative link up in case somebody wants to get some. Thank you for the links to the rebuild kit. $120 for the whole shebang rebuilt is not bad in my eyes.

I guess if I get em and the other guy lists them I can return them. I guess I shoulda read a little harder that you paid 53 for the pair HAHA oh well.