Anthias = jumpers???

Stickboy97 · 03/23/2018, 10:53 AM

So I just put a trio of Bimac Anthias into my 105g (rimless aquarium) and was told they are jumpers. I hate the look of screen tops, but I bought a kit anyway.

Before I go through the trouble of putting this together, is it necessary?

Also, do I need to cover the entire open top or could I make a pseudo Euro rim for it & only cover the fist 4"-5" around the perimeter?

thx!

Tripod1404 · 03/23/2018, 11:10 AM

Every fish is a jumper. I dont know where the notion of some fish jump and other dont comes from. Active swimmers that stay close to the surface of the water and that are easily scared are more likely to jump (Most notably wrasses fall in this groups. But anthias can definitely jump as well), but every fish can jump under right circumstances. . I have seen cleaner shrimps jumping out of the water, let alone fish.

mako61 · 03/23/2018, 11:18 AM

I got 6 Anthias about a year ago. I lost one from shipping stress. One jumped in the first month. I was about to order a screen, but my wife vetoed. The other 4 have been fine.

Stickboy97 · 03/23/2018, 12:33 PM

I had a 75g fish only for 8 years before going to this 105g reef and I've never had a jumper. I have a leopard wrasse, chromis, tang, clown, and before I had all kinds of fishes.

I got the rimless because I like the look, don't want to ruin it with a screen.

But I also don't want to lose any of these new fish.

I might just build it and put on for the weekends & evenings when I am not near (it's in my office)

ca1ore · 03/23/2018, 01:04 PM

Pseudoanthias are twitchy and will jump if spooked.

Joe0813 · 03/23/2018, 01:15 PM

Any fish can jump.... My adult powder brown tang took a leap of faith out of our 180 ..... a leap that proved not to be ideal for him

Cliving1 · 03/23/2018, 02:45 PM

You can try a recessed lid where it sits on clips so its flush with the top. That would be the ideal for a rimless

Stickboy97 · 03/23/2018, 02:47 PM

Yeah, I bought the little clips & the kit. Just not sure I want it on there.

Seems like a pain come feeding time, testing time, etc when I need to get into the tank.

mako61 · 03/23/2018, 03:21 PM

I think any fish can jump some are more likely. I think my Anthias look great so the risk for me is worth it.

Im glad I didnt get the screen, its been a year and I have lost 1 fish to jumping. I have lost 5 fish to me not knowing what I am doing / sickness / shipping. Having to mess with the screen for feeding, cleaning and such would be a pain. Plus my wife and I love the rimless clean look.

Anemone · 03/23/2018, 05:32 PM

I have 4 orange lyretail anthias, and none of them have shown a tendency to jump (or even be near the surface of my rimless tank in the couple of months that I've had them. OTOH, I've had both a blue (regal) tang and an ocellaris clown jump out of a different rimless tank (the tang survived, the clown did not).

Kevin

Uncle99 · 03/23/2018, 05:45 PM

Jumpers jump and others jump when startled or scared.
When there's tons of room and lots of homes, jumps are less

Fraq · 03/28/2018, 01:12 PM

They tend to get spooked easily, so yes they will jump, it's only a matter of time. I originally made a lid using a BRS kit, but now with my new tank I ordered a lid from toplids.

Jesterrace · 03/28/2018, 02:30 PM

Just my opinion but all fish=jumpers. At some point any fish can jump and you should have some form of cover on your tank.

Dmorty217 · 03/28/2018, 04:26 PM

Like others have mentioned all fish are jumpers, don’t lose your investment due to carpet surfing

JTL · 03/29/2018, 11:54 AM

Just lost a very nice African Midas Blenny yesterday due to jumping. We have a lid but had if off to do some cleaning.

Uncle99 · 03/29/2018, 12:04 PM

Fish suicide!
Everything jumps when fleeing....even us....

03/23/2018, 10:53 AM	#1
Stickboy97 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 647	Anthias = jumpers??? So I just put a trio of Bimac Anthias into my 105g (rimless aquarium) and was told they are jumpers. I hate the look of screen tops, but I bought a kit anyway. Before I go through the trouble of putting this together, is it necessary? Also, do I need to cover the entire open top or could I make a pseudo Euro rim for it & only cover the fist 4"-5" around the perimeter? thx! __________________ DSA 105g Neo Pro

03/23/2018, 11:18 AM	#3
mako61 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 359	I got 6 Anthias about a year ago. I lost one from shipping stress. One jumped in the first month. I was about to order a screen, but my wife vetoed. The other 4 have been fine. __________________ Thanks, Mako Current Tank Info: Returning Reefer - Red Sea 525XL, Mitras LX7s, Apex, check homepage for vids of tank

03/23/2018, 12:33 PM	#4
Stickboy97 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 647	I had a 75g fish only for 8 years before going to this 105g reef and I've never had a jumper. I have a leopard wrasse, chromis, tang, clown, and before I had all kinds of fishes. I got the rimless because I like the look, don't want to ruin it with a screen. But I also don't want to lose any of these new fish. I might just build it and put on for the weekends & evenings when I am not near (it's in my office) __________________ DSA 105g Neo Pro

03/23/2018, 01:04 PM	#5
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Pseudoanthias are twitchy and will jump if spooked. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

03/23/2018, 01:15 PM	#6
Joe0813 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston strong Posts: 2,766	Any fish can jump.... My adult powder brown tang took a leap of faith out of our 180 ..... a leap that proved not to be ideal for him __________________ Joe and Jenny Current Tank Info: 180 reef

03/23/2018, 11:10 AM	#2
Tripod1404 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,821	Every fish is a jumper. I dont know where the notion of some fish jump and other dont comes from. Active swimmers that stay close to the surface of the water and that are easily scared are more likely to jump (Most notably wrasses fall in this groups. But anthias can definitely jump as well), but every fish can jump under right circumstances. . I have seen cleaner shrimps jumping out of the water, let alone fish.

03/23/2018, 02:45 PM	#7
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	You can try a recessed lid where it sits on clips so its flush with the top. That would be the ideal for a rimless

03/23/2018, 02:47 PM	#8
Stickboy97 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 647	Yeah, I bought the little clips & the kit. Just not sure I want it on there. Seems like a pain come feeding time, testing time, etc when I need to get into the tank. __________________ DSA 105g Neo Pro

03/23/2018, 03:21 PM	#9
mako61 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 359	I think any fish can jump some are more likely. I think my Anthias look great so the risk for me is worth it. Im glad I didnt get the screen, its been a year and I have lost 1 fish to jumping. I have lost 5 fish to me not knowing what I am doing / sickness / shipping. Having to mess with the screen for feeding, cleaning and such would be a pain. Plus my wife and I love the rimless clean look. __________________ Thanks, Mako Current Tank Info: Returning Reefer - Red Sea 525XL, Mitras LX7s, Apex, check homepage for vids of tank

03/23/2018, 05:32 PM	#10
Anemone Cloning Around Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Valencia, California Posts: 25,267	I have 4 orange lyretail anthias, and none of them have shown a tendency to jump (or even be near the surface of my rimless tank in the couple of months that I've had them. OTOH, I've had both a blue (regal) tang and an ocellaris clown jump out of a different rimless tank (the tang survived, the clown did not). Kevin __________________ Back in the pool, swimming with the sharks... Current Tank Info: Red Sea 425XL w/Kessil AP700, Vertex 180i Skimmer, 2 x Vortech MP40s

03/23/2018, 05:45 PM	#11
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Jumpers jump and others jump when startled or scared. When there's tons of room and lots of homes, jumps are less

03/28/2018, 01:12 PM	#12
Fraq Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 52	They tend to get spooked easily, so yes they will jump, it's only a matter of time. I originally made a lid using a BRS kit, but now with my new tank I ordered a lid from toplids.

03/28/2018, 02:30 PM	#13
Jesterrace Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 80	Just my opinion but all fish=jumpers. At some point any fish can jump and you should have some form of cover on your tank.

03/28/2018, 04:26 PM	#14
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	Like others have mentioned all fish are jumpers, don’t lose your investment due to carpet surfing __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

03/29/2018, 11:54 AM	#15
JTL Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Venice Island, FL Posts: 2,532	Just lost a very nice African Midas Blenny yesterday due to jumping. We have a lid but had if off to do some cleaning. __________________ John 100 gallon DT and 50 gallon sump with refugium. Reefbreeders Photon V2+.

03/29/2018, 12:04 PM	#16
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Fish suicide! Everything jumps when fleeing....even us....