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Old 12/14/2017, 06:29 PM   #1
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Will listening to a movie or playing music at occasionally moderate to high volumes (spl) be detrimental to a mixed reef tank?
What about practicing drums to music, although possibly not in the same room.


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Old 12/14/2017, 07:01 PM   #2
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Depends on if you are good or not)))
Fish feel vibrations. The stress might be too great.


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Old 12/14/2017, 07:09 PM   #3
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Depends on if you are good or not)))
Fish feel vibrations. The stress might be too great.
Good one! Insert rimshot/kick/splash here.
I was really more concerned with sound pressure levels and frequencies transmitted through the glass into the tank.


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Old 12/14/2017, 07:17 PM   #4
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Nope. Blast away.


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Old 12/14/2017, 07:44 PM   #5
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You may want to think about the reverse. Aquariums aren't completely silent and will that disturb your movie watching.


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Old 12/14/2017, 09:25 PM   #6
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If you play at the right frequency, you can actually cause vibrations in the glass and shatter the entire tank.


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Old 12/15/2017, 06:55 AM   #7
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If you play at the right frequency, you can actually cause vibrations in the glass and shatter the entire tank.
That would be a ridiculously small chance... like microscopic.


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Old 12/15/2017, 07:32 AM   #8
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yes noise/vibrations can effect all marine organisms leading to behavioral changes,etc....

To what extent your specific case will have is very difficult if not impossible to quantify..

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog...rive-for-quiet
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4626970/
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20540
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Old 12/15/2017, 08:50 AM   #9
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yes noise/vibrations can effect all marine organisms leading to behavioral changes,etc....

To what extent your specific case will have is very difficult if not impossible to quantify..

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog...rive-for-quiet
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc4626970/
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20540
etc...
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Old 12/15/2017, 11:04 AM   #10
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If you play at the right frequency, you can actually cause vibrations in the glass and shatter the entire tank.
I doubt there are any percussion instruments, including piano, that could produce those freq's, or sustain those freq's, in amplitude or sustain, to break glass. Sound pressure level is my concern.


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Old 12/15/2017, 11:07 AM   #11
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You may want to think about the reverse. Aquariums aren't completely silent and will that disturb your movie watching.
Good point. I have thought that there is a certain amount of ambient noise introduced into the tank by all of the equipment. If I put the tank in the basement I "could" have a remote sump. Basement is unfinished currently.


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Old 12/15/2017, 11:09 AM   #12
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That would be a ridiculously small chance... like microscopic.
MurphyLong....HMFIC..LOL. Former Military?


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Old 12/15/2017, 11:12 AM   #13
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Drum kit will likely NOT be n the same room as tank.
It is not like we will be watching movies at 110db, music on the other hand could reach fairly high db levels for short amounts of time.


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Old 12/15/2017, 11:28 AM   #14
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yes noise/vibrations can effect all marine organisms leading to behavioral changes,etc....

To what extent your specific case will have is very difficult if not impossible to quantify..

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog...rive-for-quiet
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4626970/
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20540
etc...
Interesting reads, ok I did not read every single word. I will re-visit those articles.
My concern is the OCCASIONAL cranking up of The Who, Rush, Zeppelin, Zappa, Weather Report, King Crimson, etc.... . My wife and daughter will probably be annoyed, in the short term, so it not like an entire album would be played at "11".


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FWIW... I quite often am rocking out around my fish tank..
If they are permanently damaged by that I wouldn't know it..

Now I once got a cease and desist letter from my Kole tang when that silly Justin Bieber/spanish song was accidentally allowed to play for longer than 10 seconds as I was running full steam to flip to the next song..


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Drum kit will likely NOT be n the same room as tank.
It is not like we will be watching movies at 110db, music on the other hand WILL reach fairly high db levels for short amounts of time.
ftfy (fixed That For You - I'm a drummer as well)...

I have my tank sitting right next to my rather robust stereo system that may, on occasion, get cranked up louder than many people would consider to be at a comfortable listening level (others would consider it just right) and have never had any adverse effects on either my tank or any of its inhabitants...


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Old 12/15/2017, 02:18 PM   #17
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I'm glad I happened onto this thread..

1.... Because I was wondering the same thing about my darling husband and his Mesa amplifier possibly disturbing the tank. There will be no stopping the awesomeness that comes from those heavy metal fingers (lol)

2. It is highly entertaining. I almost feel at if I just listened to music at a high volume and watched a movie all at once. Kudos.

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Old 12/15/2017, 06:53 PM   #18
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ftfy (fixed That For You - I'm a drummer as well)...

I have my tank sitting right next to my rather robust stereo system that may, on occasion, get cranked up louder than many people would consider to be at a comfortable listening level (others would consider it just right) and have never had any adverse effects on either my tank or any of its inhabitants...
ftfy...LOL, ok, ok.


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Old 12/18/2017, 01:09 PM   #19
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MurphyLong....HMFIC..LOL. Former Military?
Yeah, prior Army, and work on MCB Camp Lejeune now. "HMFIC Customs" is something I started for Android-based Mustang stereos with CANBUS integration. First thing that came to mind when I was filling out my business license info.


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Old 12/18/2017, 02:24 PM   #20
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Remember those commercials in the 70s where the female opera singer would shatter a glass with her voice? She would be dangerous to have over for dinner if you had a reef tank lol


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Old 12/18/2017, 02:29 PM   #21
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OMG! I was young, that is my only excuse. It was Ella shattering the class! I remembered just a random singer and thought it was opera. I am so sorry Ella! I am so ashamed.

Ella shattering class with her voice commercial for 1972.
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Old 12/18/2017, 02:35 PM   #22
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FWIW... I quite often am rocking out around my fish tank..
If they are permanently damaged by that I wouldn't know it..

Now I once got a cease and desist letter from my Kole tang when that silly Justin Bieber/spanish song was accidentally allowed to play for longer than 10 seconds as I was running full steam to flip to the next song..
At least the Kole Tang was looking out for ya. Lol


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Old 12/18/2017, 02:37 PM   #23
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Yeah, prior Army, and work on MCB Camp Lejeune now. "HMFIC Customs" is something I started for Android-based Mustang stereos with CANBUS integration. First thing that came to mind when I was filling out my business license info.


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Old 12/18/2017, 02:42 PM   #24
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FWIW... I quite often am rocking out around my fish tank..
If they are permanently damaged by that I wouldn't know it..

Now I once got a cease and desist letter from my Kole tang when that silly Justin Bieber/spanish song was accidentally allowed to play for longer than 10 seconds as I was running full steam to flip to the next song..
I also meant to add...
Good to know about crankin' the stereo on occasion.
It is also good to know that Kole Tangs have enough sense to alert one to less than desirable, ahemm "music".


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