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01/10/2017, 03:15 PM | #51 |
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Back in Germany I tried this stuff, but it never did anything to cure a sick fish. I had far better success rates with prescription antibiotics, baths, the usual chemicals or just doing nothing.
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01/10/2017, 05:51 PM | #52 |
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Thanks guys,
@Luke: Formalin 37%? Metronidazole 2 times for 3 days during TTM? For Ammonium remover JBL Denitrol is possible or something special? Never heard before. @naraku: Luke also use formalin between every transfer. Also combinated with melachit green. You use a second antibiotic and Luke also use melachit green, right? Grüße Torben Gesendet mit Tapatalk Last edited by Achilles Torben; 01/10/2017 at 06:01 PM. |
01/10/2017, 06:15 PM | #53 |
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Yes, formalin is ca 37-40 % stock solution of formaldehyde. But use fresh one, not from a bottle opened years ago, because it may oxidize to formic acid, which is much more toxic for fish.
In your case I would recommend Metronidazole for 3 (or even 4) transfers, as you deal with symptomatic infection. That means at least for 7 days. And be prepared to transfer your fish even after 2 days if the water gets a bit cloudy. Regarding your previous post, I don´t use any commercial products with unknown content to treat my fish anymore. |
01/10/2017, 06:49 PM | #54 |
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And I use this to keep ammonium under control:
https://fish.aquaristic.net/MICROBE-...sh-marine.html But you can use similar products, just don´t mix it with the water for formalin dips. JBL denitrol is something different. You cannot use bacteria if you are treating with antibiotics. |
01/10/2017, 07:22 PM | #55 |
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Thanks Luke
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01/19/2017, 07:28 AM | #56 |
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Hello
Here are the only products I amble to order quickly 2000mg Melachitgrünoxalat per 100ml And 30% Formalin 1.25 ml Formalin per gallon or 3,75l 4 till 5 drops melachit green per gallon Right Grüße Torben Gesendet mit Tapatalk |
01/22/2017, 12:36 AM | #57 |
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I dry my equipment by a big electrical air heater. So after one day can't find any drops of water. I do it one more day. So it is sure that all zyst are destroyed?
I thought about cooking the running system by electrical heater. Which temperature I have to rise to kill everything and how long. Or I can do it with freshwater? What's about Oodimium? TTM also works? I transfer fish all 2 till 3 days Grüße Torben Gesendet mit Tapatalk |
01/24/2017, 04:21 PM | #58 |
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The product you show (for koi fish) already contains malachite green, so you don´t need to add it separately.
Yes, after 48 hours of drought the cysts are supposed to be inactivated according to the literature. I flush the tanks with freshwater, then I let them dry out without any visible water drops for at least 24 hours. If I have any doubts, I rinse the tank with chlorine bleach. The protocol also works for Amyloodinium and actually for almost all common external infections, with exception of some bacterial infections. For that case you should use different antibiotics (not metronidazole). There are some studies on thermosensitivity of Cryptocaryon. The higher is the temperature, the shorter exposition is needed. But I don´t remember the exact numbers. You would need temperature above 40° C. |
01/25/2017, 06:03 AM | #59 |
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Thanks Luke
The pictures show two different products. The second is melachit green 2000mg per 100 Liter Melachitgrünoxalat. This is can use for to add 4 till 5 drops per gallon? What antibiotics for bacteria infections you would suggest me? Grüße Torben Gesendet mit Tapatalk |
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