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[ThRoewer]

Back in Germany I tried this stuff, but it never did anything to cure a sick fish. I had far better success rates with prescription antibiotics, baths, the usual chemicals or just doing nothing.

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[Achilles Torben]

Thanks guys,

@Luke: Formalin 37%?
Metronidazole 2 times for 3 days during TTM? For Ammonium remover JBL Denitrol is possible or something special? Never heard before.

@naraku: Luke also use formalin between every transfer. Also combinated with melachit green. You use a second antibiotic and Luke also use melachit green, right?

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[luke.varga]

Yes, formalin is ca 37-40 % stock solution of formaldehyde. But use fresh one, not from a bottle opened years ago, because it may oxidize to formic acid, which is much more toxic for fish.

In your case I would recommend Metronidazole for 3 (or even 4) transfers, as you deal with symptomatic infection. That means at least for 7 days. And be prepared to transfer your fish even after 2 days if the water gets a bit cloudy.

Regarding your previous post, I don´t use any commercial products with unknown content to treat my fish anymore.

[luke.varga]

And I use this to keep ammonium under control:

https://fish.aquaristic.net/MICROBE-...sh-marine.html

But you can use similar products, just don´t mix it with the water for formalin dips.

JBL denitrol is something different. You cannot use bacteria if you are treating with antibiotics.

[Achilles Torben]

Thanks Luke

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[Achilles Torben]

Hello
Here are the only products I amble to order quickly



2000mg Melachitgrünoxalat per 100ml
And 30% Formalin

1.25 ml Formalin per gallon or 3,75l
4 till 5 drops melachit green per gallon

Right

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[Achilles Torben]

I dry my equipment by a big electrical air heater. So after one day can't find any drops of water. I do it one more day. So it is sure that all zyst are destroyed?

I thought about cooking the running system by electrical heater. Which temperature I have to rise to kill everything and how long.

Or I can do it with freshwater?

What's about Oodimium? TTM also works? I transfer fish all 2 till 3 days



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[luke.varga]

The product you show (for koi fish) already contains malachite green, so you don´t need to add it separately.

Yes, after 48 hours of drought the cysts are supposed to be inactivated according to the literature.

I flush the tanks with freshwater, then I let them dry out without any visible water drops for at least 24 hours. If I have any doubts, I rinse the tank with chlorine bleach.

The protocol also works for Amyloodinium and actually for almost all common external infections, with exception of some bacterial infections. For that case you should use different antibiotics (not metronidazole).

There are some studies on thermosensitivity of Cryptocaryon. The higher is the temperature, the shorter exposition is needed. But I don´t remember the exact numbers. You would need temperature above 40° C.

[Achilles Torben]

Thanks Luke

The pictures show two different products. The second is melachit green 2000mg per 100 Liter Melachitgrünoxalat. This is can use for to add 4 till 5 drops per gallon?

What antibiotics for bacteria infections you would suggest me?


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