EcoTech Marine Introduces the Radion XR30w LED Light - Page 3

pmrossetti · 09/12/2011, 04:51 PM

so if you have a 6' long tank, you have to hang 3 units? 6 cables? that's ridic.

can they maybe be linked together and hung with 2 cables?

rtparty · 09/12/2011, 05:47 PM

In some of the pictures taken by d2mini you can see that he has two modules linked together with only one pair of cables.

pmrossetti · 09/12/2011, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtparty

In some of the pictures taken by d2mini you can see that he has two modules linked together with only one pair of cables.

yes, to form a square. can it be done lengthwise?

also, at 6" awl won't it get splashed?

Bobbofin · 09/12/2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjero

Where did I say salt evaporates? This is a saltwater environment and something place 8" away from saltwater is going to get salt on it.
Why does no-one reads what's written and stop assuming things?

Salt does not evaporate. Also, if you are splashing enough water that it would effect the fixture you need to put away the snorkel, flippers and the rubber ducky......

pmrossetti · 09/12/2011, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbofin

Salt does not evaporate. Also, if you are splashing enough water that it would effect the fixture you need to put away the snorkel, flippers and the rubber ducky......

it's not continually splashing, but at 6" (the rec height) it will get splashed.
is the fixture made for that eventuality?

I mean if a mh gets splashed you lose a bulb, if this unit gets splashed you lose 800 smackers.

david00061 · 09/12/2011, 06:49 PM

How many units do you recommend for a 109x40x27? It will be a well stocked mixed reef

SkullV · 09/12/2011, 06:54 PM

Will the software that is coming with the Radion work with Mac as well as PC?

pmrossetti · 09/12/2011, 07:06 PM

I may have missed it, but is there a dusk/dawn ramp up/down?

is there a moon cycle?

and is there a par chart that's readable?
ecotech's is not clear.

SkullV · 09/12/2011, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrossetti

I may have missed it, but is there a dusk/dawn ramp up/down?

is there a moon cycle?

and is there a par chart that's readable?
ecotech's is not clear.

Watch the Mrsaltwatertanktv about the radion, he has a good chart.

pmrossetti · 09/12/2011, 07:31 PM

am i wrong. is no one else concerned about splashes being so close to the water?
it seems ecotech made the fixture too weak to be mounted a safe distance above the water. and with no optics unfixable.

they got good spread but at what risk to the fixture.

that's a big problem, no?
please, your input.

pmrossetti · 09/12/2011, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkullV

Watch the Mrsaltwatertanktv about the radion, he has a good chart.

as good par as the 250watt mh, but....at 100percent setting. which means if you adjust color at all down goes par, right?

madweazl · 09/12/2011, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrossetti

am i wrong. is no one else concerned about splashes being so close to the water?
it seems ecotech made the fixture too weak to be mounted a safe distance above the water. and with no optics unfixable.

they got good spread but at what risk to the fixture.

that's a big problem, no?
please, your input.

What the heck is splashing a significant amount of water 6" off the surface of the water? There is an optic over the LED so even if it did get splash, you can wipe it off. The emitter side of the LED doesnt produce enough heat for the splash to be a problem either.

pmrossetti · 09/12/2011, 08:54 PM

so it can't get inside?

phishyreef · 09/12/2011, 09:57 PM

Can these be mounted inside of a canopy successfully, if so what is the best way?

EcoTech Marine · 09/13/2011, 06:57 AM

pmrossetti-

The lights have four M5 mounting holes on the top so the mounting options are essentially endless. As was shown with Dennis's tank, a simple mounting bracket was created to string multiple units together and hang them from one premium mounting kit rather than have one kit (with two vertical cables) per unit. The lights can be aligned short-ways or long-ways.

The electronics are sealed out from the cooling circuit. If the unit gets splashed, wipe it down periodically and you'll be fine. The unit runs best around 8" over the tank and can easily go higher. The PAR chart provided by us already is at 12" away from the sensor. There will be more PAR measurements over time showing how it compares to any other product on the market. You can run it higher to get more spread at the cost of lower PAR, just like any other lighting product on the market. With the amount of PAR that the Radion puts out, this won't be an issue to your tank if you're trying to go for more spread.

Our numbers are based on 100% intensity which equates to approximately a 10k-12k MH in terms of color. Just like any LED technology, if you dim it you will lose some PAR.

Mark did an excellent overview of the light on his website, www.mrsaltwatertank.com:

http://www.mrsaltwatertank.com/pumps-glue-and-now-leds/

Included in this review is a PAR analysis of his light compared to a 250w MH. The Radion produces higher PAR and excellent spread over his 90gal tank allowing him to use only two lights should he go completely LED.

SkullV-

Initially the software will be PC only but Mac is planned.

phishyreef-

Yes, the Radion can be mounted within a canopy. Make sure there is adequate ventilation into and out of the canopy. A sealed canopy will be bad for any LED technology.

david00061

Are your dimensions in inches? If so, I would recommend two rows of four to six lights to ensure adequate coverage over the entire tank.

Chooch1 · 09/13/2011, 07:31 AM

Tim,

I have a 180 gallon tank, 72" x 24" x 24". I have ordered 3 Radion units. When will the hanging kit be available? Any pictures of it? Cost? I would like to basically hang my lights on 2 foot centers over my tank for even light distribution. Will the hanging kit allow the lights to be hung in this manner so that the hanging wires would be on each end of the end light fixtures? In other words can you link the 3 fixtures at this distance into essentially one fixture and then have the hanging wires on each end? I would prefer not to have six wires hanging from my ceiling if possible. Thanks.

EcoTech Marine · 09/13/2011, 07:35 AM

chooch1-

While there is nothing wrong with three to start out, you may want to consider adding a fourth to the mix eventually. Fortunately we have planned to have a lot of supply for the Radion so you should be able to pick one up easily after you try out three.

The premium hanging kit will be available at launch and we hope to have brackets available shortly after launch, hopefully within the first month or so.

ReefRockerLive · 09/13/2011, 07:43 AM

Hi Tim, how many Radion fixtures do you recommend for a 48" x 24" x 21" and a 36" x 24 x 18"? I was thinking two fixtures for the 4ft tank and try one for the 3ft tank, your thoughts?

RRL

EcoTech Marine · 09/13/2011, 07:59 AM

For the 48" tank I think you can go with two, for the 36" tank you'll be between one and two units. Ultimately we may need more time to determine the best configuration for that size tank.

this is me · 09/13/2011, 08:02 AM

Are these compatible with Profilux controller?

EcoTech Marine · 09/13/2011, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by this is me

Are these compatible with Profilux controller?

The framework is all there, but it will take a little bit of time for us and GHL/Apex to write the code and get everything going. The control will be wireless just like for VorTechs.

this is me · 09/13/2011, 08:20 AM

Thanks for the response.
Suppose I buy 2 Radions, can I plug in the GHL PWM module or the 1-10V port and control the light? In other words, does the Radion use 1-10V or PWM for the dimming?
GHL already have the dimming and storm mode all in their controller. Not sure what you mean by extra coding. If the controller can provide the PWM or 1-10V signal needed to the Radion, then the controller should be able to control the light however it wants.

EcoTech Marine · 09/13/2011, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by this is me

Thanks for the response.
Suppose I buy 2 Radions, can I plug in the GHL PWM module or the 1-10V port and control the light? In other words, does the Radion use 1-10V or PWM for the dimming?
GHL already have the dimming and storm mode all in their controller. Not sure what you mean by extra coding. If the controller can provide the PWM or 1-10V signal needed to the Radion, then the controller should be able to control the light however it wants.

There's no 0-10v input on the Radion, only our wireless communication which requires specific communication and development time to get ready. When it's done it will be extremely nice though and it's not something terribly difficult, just like for the VorTech.

wesleyforbes2 · 09/13/2011, 09:01 AM

I pre ordered two modules from Marine depot for my 90 gallon, when do you see your product getting to them for distribution?

Also the last post had me wondering, all dimming and programming doesn't require a controller, correct?

Sent from Wesley's Moto Atrix 4G using Tapatalk

EcoTech Marine · 09/13/2011, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesleyforbes2

I pre ordered two modules from Marine depot for my 90 gallon, when do you see your product getting to them for distribution?

Also the last post had me wondering, all dimming and programming doesn't require a controller, correct?

Sent from Wesley's Moto Atrix 4G using Tapatalk

By late October. The Radion is fully controllable out of the box using our USB software.

09/12/2011, 05:47 PM	#52
rtparty Raise The Reef! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 7,404	In some of the pictures taken by d2mini you can see that he has two modules linked together with only one pair of cables. __________________ Ryan Click on my user name and check out my homepage! Current Tank Info: 50g Cadlights/Giesemann Spectra (250w Radium, 2 ATI Blue Plus, 2 ATI Actinic)/2 x Vortech MP10wQD/Skimz SN123/Eheim Compact 3000+

09/12/2011, 06:54 PM	#57
SkullV They Got My Number Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 6,898	Will the software that is coming with the Radion work with Mac as well as PC? __________________ -Ted- Be cautious of those willing to share their "knowledge" but not their results.

09/12/2011, 07:06 PM	#58
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	I may have missed it, but is there a dusk/dawn ramp up/down? is there a moon cycle? and is there a par chart that's readable? ecotech's is not clear. Last edited by pmrossetti; 09/12/2011 at 07:11 PM.

09/12/2011, 09:57 PM	#64
phishyreef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 26	Can these be mounted inside of a canopy successfully, if so what is the best way? __________________ 90 Gallon Mixed Reef Nova Extreme T5 8 bulb fixture 2-VorTech MP40w ES power heads 40 Gallon sump, Phosban w/ PURA Complete, EURO USA Skimmer, mud/rubble/chaeto, return

09/13/2011, 06:57 AM	#65
EcoTech Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 4,870	pmrossetti- The lights have four M5 mounting holes on the top so the mounting options are essentially endless. As was shown with Dennis's tank, a simple mounting bracket was created to string multiple units together and hang them from one premium mounting kit rather than have one kit (with two vertical cables) per unit. The lights can be aligned short-ways or long-ways. The electronics are sealed out from the cooling circuit. If the unit gets splashed, wipe it down periodically and you'll be fine. The unit runs best around 8" over the tank and can easily go higher. The PAR chart provided by us already is at 12" away from the sensor. There will be more PAR measurements over time showing how it compares to any other product on the market. You can run it higher to get more spread at the cost of lower PAR, just like any other lighting product on the market. With the amount of PAR that the Radion puts out, this won't be an issue to your tank if you're trying to go for more spread. Our numbers are based on 100% intensity which equates to approximately a 10k-12k MH in terms of color. Just like any LED technology, if you dim it you will lose some PAR. Mark did an excellent overview of the light on his website, www.mrsaltwatertank.com: http://www.mrsaltwatertank.com/pumps-glue-and-now-leds/ Included in this review is a PAR analysis of his light compared to a 250w MH. The Radion produces higher PAR and excellent spread over his 90gal tank allowing him to use only two lights should he go completely LED. SkullV- Initially the software will be PC only but Mac is planned. phishyreef- Yes, the Radion can be mounted within a canopy. Make sure there is adequate ventilation into and out of the canopy. A sealed canopy will be bad for any LED technology. david00061 Are your dimensions in inches? If so, I would recommend two rows of four to six lights to ensure adequate coverage over the entire tank. __________________ Tim Marks President EcoTech Marine www.ecotechmarine.com If the above information doesn't help you, please contact us at 1-800-785-0338 ext. 2 or by e-mailing [email]support@ecotech

09/12/2011, 04:51 PM	#51
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	so if you have a 6' long tank, you have to hang 3 units? 6 cables? that's ridic. can they maybe be linked together and hung with 2 cables?

09/12/2011, 06:49 PM	#56
david00061 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: st joseph Missouri Posts: 2,341	How many units do you recommend for a 109x40x27? It will be a well stocked mixed reef

09/12/2011, 07:31 PM	#60
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	am i wrong. is no one else concerned about splashes being so close to the water? it seems ecotech made the fixture too weak to be mounted a safe distance above the water. and with no optics unfixable. they got good spread but at what risk to the fixture. that's a big problem, no? please, your input.

09/12/2011, 08:54 PM	#63
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	so it can't get inside?

09/13/2011, 07:31 AM	#66
Chooch1 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 502	Tim, I have a 180 gallon tank, 72" x 24" x 24". I have ordered 3 Radion units. When will the hanging kit be available? Any pictures of it? Cost? I would like to basically hang my lights on 2 foot centers over my tank for even light distribution. Will the hanging kit allow the lights to be hung in this manner so that the hanging wires would be on each end of the end light fixtures? In other words can you link the 3 fixtures at this distance into essentially one fixture and then have the hanging wires on each end? I would prefer not to have six wires hanging from my ceiling if possible. Thanks.

09/13/2011, 07:35 AM	#67
EcoTech Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 4,870	chooch1- While there is nothing wrong with three to start out, you may want to consider adding a fourth to the mix eventually. Fortunately we have planned to have a lot of supply for the Radion so you should be able to pick one up easily after you try out three. The premium hanging kit will be available at launch and we hope to have brackets available shortly after launch, hopefully within the first month or so. __________________ Tim Marks President EcoTech Marine www.ecotechmarine.com If the above information doesn't help you, please contact us at 1-800-785-0338 ext. 2 or by e-mailing [email]support@ecotech

09/13/2011, 07:43 AM	#68
ReefRockerLive GHL Mitras LX7 Club Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT Posts: 2,454 Blog Entries: 1	Hi Tim, how many Radion fixtures do you recommend for a 48" x 24" x 21" and a 36" x 24 x 18"? I was thinking two fixtures for the 4ft tank and try one for the 3ft tank, your thoughts? RRL __________________ -ReefRockerLive Current Tank Info: Rimless 67g \| GHL Profilux 3.1T eX \| 2x GHL Doser 2 dosers \| 2xGHL Mitras LX7 LED \| Abyzz a100 \| Bubble King DC 150 \| 2x Vortech MP40w QD \| Fauna Marin Zeomatic 2.2ltr \| Fauna Marin Zeolight System \| Fauna Marin Balling Light Method

09/13/2011, 07:59 AM	#69
EcoTech Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 4,870	For the 48" tank I think you can go with two, for the 36" tank you'll be between one and two units. Ultimately we may need more time to determine the best configuration for that size tank. __________________ Tim Marks President EcoTech Marine www.ecotechmarine.com If the above information doesn't help you, please contact us at 1-800-785-0338 ext. 2 or by e-mailing [email]support@ecotech

09/13/2011, 08:02 AM	#70
this is me Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,074	Are these compatible with Profilux controller? __________________ Nick When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $4.95 per minute. Current Tank Info: Miracle 360 gallons

09/13/2011, 08:20 AM	#72
this is me Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,074	Thanks for the response. Suppose I buy 2 Radions, can I plug in the GHL PWM module or the 1-10V port and control the light? In other words, does the Radion use 1-10V or PWM for the dimming? GHL already have the dimming and storm mode all in their controller. Not sure what you mean by extra coding. If the controller can provide the PWM or 1-10V signal needed to the Radion, then the controller should be able to control the light however it wants. __________________ Nick When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $4.95 per minute. Current Tank Info: Miracle 360 gallons

09/13/2011, 09:01 AM	#74
wesleyforbes2 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 422	I pre ordered two modules from Marine depot for my 90 gallon, when do you see your product getting to them for distribution? Also the last post had me wondering, all dimming and programming doesn't require a controller, correct? Sent from Wesley's Moto Atrix 4G using Tapatalk

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