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Unread 11/21/2006, 07:37 PM   #276
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Are most of the reefers in Italy using GFO's for phosphate removal?

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Unread 11/21/2006, 07:39 PM   #277
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Are most of the reefers in Italy using GFO's for phosphate removal?

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I guess I have been out of the hobby longer than I thought.. but what is a GFO?


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Unread 11/21/2006, 07:42 PM   #278
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Granular Ferric Oxide...excuse the spelling! aka RowaPhos, Phosban, etc.



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Unread 11/22/2006, 01:38 AM   #279
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I don' t know the the ZEOvit and the new Xaqua like method. I do not like very bottles that to me they make to become enslaved.
Rowaphos is a lot used in Italy but not permanent and with moderation because Rowaphos it lowers the kH. Use only with high livel of PO4 and silicate in the fluized bed


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Unread 11/22/2006, 03:07 AM   #280
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It has to be that Italian water! Really nice tanks all of them!


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The tank showing amazing 10 month growth is a hgh system? I'm gonna have to sweet talk my doc! I wonder if the knock off internet hgh would work the same... how do you italians compare the hgh growth to the other methods? Does zeovite compare at all?


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wow! amazing.....


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Unread 11/22/2006, 04:27 PM   #283
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First of all I would like to congratulate both American and Italian reefer for a job well done. One thing I saw both system have in common is stability parameter for water quality. First both system have efficience skimmer a must and other equipment to help keep stabalize the water environment. Second both system have larger tank than normal 200 gal or larger that will help with stable water environment. Third instence light and good flow. Fourth some type of custom food additive. If we feed our fishes and corals with regular frozen brine or flake then it wouldn't be as good as feeding them with custom designer food.
And for who is the best? I think everyone of us who own a reef tank and successfully maintain a close environment. Pad yourself in your back and appreciate your own creation because in my eye my reef tank is the best....:-). By the way invincible I'm really appreciate your dedication striving for better way to improve reef keeping.
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Unread 11/22/2006, 05:22 PM   #284
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Fload, go a page or two back. You can try any hgh but apparently theres only a few that really work and theyre not saying which ones due to experiments and documentation in progress.


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Unread 11/22/2006, 05:51 PM   #285
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WOW!!! these tanks are really something! Brilliant colors!


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The growth rate and color intensity is beyond what I thought was possible in captivity - I'm just curious how much coin these guys drop per month on their additives especially the HGH.


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great question


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It has to be the Yellow Tangs. Notice how almost all those tanks have Yellow Tangs?

Those are amazing... it makes my tank look like...a freshwater goldfish tank


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Has anyone found out what HGH is being used?
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i dont thinhk it matters what hgh they use it is almost all the same stuff,,beside it being agenced the law here in the usa it is very expencive ,,i mean very ,,if i had some i would use it on myself before i would give it to my tank


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Unread 11/23/2006, 07:19 PM   #291
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I could be wrong but I think there is only one HGH used by body builders and used by aquariums.

What they were saying is the HGH is frozen which releases specific aminio acids. I think the study of those amino acids could be the big deal. IF they can find out what aminos exactly are a result and reproduce it in that form....then we have something usuable and saleable.


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Has anyone found out what HGH is being used?
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Unread 11/23/2006, 08:41 PM   #293
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Thanks I have been following this tread very close. It has been noted that the HGH is added to food that is a galitin base food, Then the HGH is added to it and in becuase it is placed in the refrigerator and this some how releases it into the food that in return is feed to the tank. Is this on the right track?
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Thanks I have been following this tread very close. It has been noted that the HGH is added to food that is a galitin base food, Then the HGH is added to it and in becuase it is placed in the refrigerator and this some how releases it into the food that in return is feed to the tank. Is this on the right track?
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Correct. A couple times a week. You dose Amino's first, 4 hrs later, add cubes, leave skimmer off (hrs) during this process, and make sure you have high water parameters.


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man this stuff is expensive,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
http://www.canadadrugs.com/prescript...en+3.3mg/6992/


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man this stuff is expensive,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
http://www.canadadrugs.com/prescript...en+3.3mg/6992/
Sure is. HGH is expensive no matter where you get it. This is what the top bodybuilders use, but with sponsors, they can afford it. Amatuer bodybuilders (non pro), use cheaper alternative steroids like Test, EQ, Winny, Deca, Dbol, etc. Its still expensive though.


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Unread 11/23/2006, 08:59 PM   #297
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so 3.3mg would be good for how many onces of food and would be good for how many feedings? I am still interested in this method that they are using wow very fasinating.
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Here is an updated pic of Nazza's tank. You can see how he rearranged some corals. Still look great! Thanks Nazza for the pic.





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Unread 11/23/2006, 09:01 PM   #299
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have they given up a recipe or is this going to be a marketed product?


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so 3.3mg would be good for how many onces of food and would be good for how many feedings? I am still interested in this method that they are using wow very fasinating.
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By Fabio:
"One vial corresponds to 1,33 mg that they correspond to 4 units."

The recipe will be released in the next issue of reefitalia. It is not a branded marketed product that you can buy off the shelves. Its only a method. No one will be making money off of this besides your doc.


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