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Unread 06/25/2015, 10:10 PM   #1
TJ007
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Smile Saddle Valentini Puffer

I LOVE puffers. I was reading about the saddle valentini and they are listed as "peaceful" and don't require near as big of tank as most.. i am going to set up a 20gal nano and wanted to incorporate one in my tank. Anybody have experience keeping one? I would love to hear about it! Also Would one do okay with a pair of clown fish?



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Unread 06/25/2015, 10:20 PM   #2
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Welcome to Reef Central!

Here is the recommended requirements of this wonderful little fish.

QUICK STATS
Minimum Tank Size: 30 gallons
Care Level: Moderate
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: With Caution
Water Conditions: 72-78° F, dKH 8-12, pH 8.1-8.4, sg 1.020-1.025
Max. Size: 4"
Color Form: Black, Blue, Orange, Tan, Yellow
Diet: Omnivore
Compatibility: View Chart
Origin: Hawaii, Indonesia, Sumatra
Family: Tetraodontidae

This said IMO you will need a little bit larger tank to keep this guy. What happens when a fish is in a tank that's too small is it creates aggression on the part of that particular fish, even if they aren't aggressive to begin with.

With that said Petco is having their $ per gallon sale starting this weekend and usually runs for a month. YOu can get a 30 gal for $30 and not have any different requirements on your tank equipment.

A pair of clownfish along with this one will be fine in a 30 but maybe not so much in a 20. Going just that 10 gal difference opens up a lot of different choices for you over the 20.

Good luck in whatever you decide on and enjoy the site. Make sure you read the stickies at the top of each forum as they contain much information. There is always someone willing to offer advice so your animals are very happy!

Welcome!


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Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS.

Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300
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Unread 06/25/2015, 11:49 PM   #3
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Welcome to Reef Central!

Here is the recommended requirements of this wonderful little fish.

QUICK STATS
Minimum Tank Size: 30 gallons
Care Level: Moderate
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: With Caution
Water Conditions: 72-78° F, dKH 8-12, pH 8.1-8.4, sg 1.020-1.025
Max. Size: 4"
Color Form: Black, Blue, Orange, Tan, Yellow
Diet: Omnivore
Compatibility: View Chart
Origin: Hawaii, Indonesia, Sumatra
Family: Tetraodontidae

This said IMO you will need a little bit larger tank to keep this guy. What happens when a fish is in a tank that's too small is it creates aggression on the part of that particular fish, even if they aren't aggressive to begin with.

With that said Petco is having their $ per gallon sale starting this weekend and usually runs for a month. YOu can get a 30 gal for $30 and not have any different requirements on your tank equipment.

A pair of clownfish along with this one will be fine in a 30 but maybe not so much in a 20. Going just that 10 gal difference opens up a lot of different choices for you over the 20.

Good luck in whatever you decide on and enjoy the site. Make sure you read the stickies at the top of each forum as they contain much information. There is always someone willing to offer advice so your animals are very happy!

Welcome!
Thanks so much! I will def look into that tank sale. I want to keep everybody happy Super excited to get it up and running


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Unread 06/26/2015, 01:09 AM   #4
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+1 on the tank upgrade, a 29g is the same footprint as a 20g long, i have had 3 of them for various reasons, sumps, quarantines, nano. I have drilled 2 of them so that is plenty possible. And they take the same length equipment, so if you already have parts like lights and stuff, should all fit.

Ive got one of those really pitiful Aqueon Modular LED fixtures for them, dunno what im gonna do with it lol...Quarantine tank i guess lol, acclimate fish to my DT lights or something.


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Unread 06/26/2015, 05:39 AM   #5
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I have a Valentini/ Saddled Toby in my 40 B and that little fish has the most personality out of everybody, including the clowns. My wife calls him Petey for some reason. "He" is always the first to make new friends with visitors and frequently will timidly approach the fingers of a new person to nibble some food, and will actively watch you from a quiet corner out of the flow. He plays in the waves, catching a couple bobs before ducking under the line of current to run forward and do it again. My personal favorite, when adding new CUC he'll approach cautiously, eye me, eye the new addition, eye me, eye the new addition, eye me... then take a quick peck and run away because I'll swat at him.

Mine's perfectly safe in my reef. Hasn't hardly touched a snail outside of a curious peck or two and never chased a shrimp. I also feed 2-3x a day.


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Unread 06/26/2015, 08:12 AM   #6
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I have a Valentini/ Saddled Toby in my 40 B and that little fish has the most personality out of everybody, including the clowns. My wife calls him Petey for some reason. "He" is always the first to make new friends with visitors and frequently will timidly approach the fingers of a new person to nibble some food, and will actively watch you from a quiet corner out of the flow. He plays in the waves, catching a couple bobs before ducking under the line of current to run forward and do it again. My personal favorite, when adding new CUC he'll approach cautiously, eye me, eye the new addition, eye me, eye the new addition, eye me... then take a quick peck and run away because I'll swat at him.

Mine's perfectly safe in my reef. Hasn't hardly touched a snail outside of a curious peck or two and never chased a shrimp. I also feed 2-3x a day.
I think you have just talked me into getting one


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Unread 06/26/2015, 08:18 AM   #7
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Damn! now that I start reading about them I find they aren't reef safe.


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Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300
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Unread 06/26/2015, 10:08 AM   #8
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Not 100%, no. Definitely "with caution" - mine pecks at new snails if I introduce them during light hours. Otherwise no problem.

A buddy of mine who works for a very prominent marine supplier loves them as well. Lots of personality.


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Unread 06/26/2015, 02:50 PM   #9
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I think you have just talked me into getting one

DK you definitely need to get some kind of puffer. Currently, I have 6 puffers in my house haha. Valentini, 2 striped burrfish, and 3 figure 8( brackish). Most people have no problems with valentinis as far as corals are concerned. They will pick at snails, shrimp, and hermits though. As well as clams.


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Unread 06/26/2015, 03:53 PM   #10
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I've got no clams or shrimp and the few hermits I've got.. well lets just say I'm not really attached to them. I'll keep reading on them over the next few days and come up with a final decision. but Martini5788 I'm having to agree with you


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Unread 06/26/2015, 05:00 PM   #11
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Unread 06/26/2015, 08:16 PM   #12
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I'm with Martini... you could always take it out and set up a 30 FOWLR


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