Regal Angel Primer - Page 8

moonpod · 01/09/2005, 07:33 PM

depends. Sometimes the tangs are really aggressive, sometimes they ignore 'em. Kinda individual. The acanthurus are worse than say nasos or the bristle tooths. But that's a generality.

Scuba Dog · 01/09/2005, 07:41 PM

Can anyone recomend an online sorce for ordering a regal..one thats already in good health and eating? PM me the response would hate for this thread to be moved to the vender forum....

moonpod · 01/09/2005, 07:49 PM

I am NOT a vendor/retailer/middleman etc....so this is an independent opinion. The fish at PacAquaFarms are generally in pretty good shape. I ASSUME that this is where reefermadness gets their fish from. so I might give them a call. Otherwise TheMarineCenter has a reasonable reputation. I have no experience with justrarefish, but I've heard good things.

moonpod · 01/09/2005, 07:52 PM

Additionally, this thread sort of makes me vaguely uncomfortable. There are a lot of success stories here, but the generality is still that the vast majority of Regals that are collected are probably doomed...there is still no "magic equation" for success. I know it sounds vaguely hippocritical from someone who has one, but it's just food for thought.

malegolf · 01/09/2005, 08:42 PM

I got mine from PA, since I only live 55 miles from them. Jeremy kept if for me a couple weeks after he got it and got it to eat, I feel that's the difference between the 1st one I got and this one. The 1st one I picked up the next day after PA got it and I think that was to much stress for it, this one will now come to the top when I feed him. He will also come to the front of the tank when I walk up to the tank, I just wish he would eat something other than Mysis. I guess that's what he's going eat, I sure would like to feed some seaweed or flake that he would eat......

orangereefer · 01/10/2005, 05:20 AM

Thought, I'd share. I just purchased a Red Sea Regal from my local fish store. It's about 3-4 inches and is very healthy. To me, this has been a prize fish I had sought for quite some time. It's already acclimated in my 120 reef tank and so far has not picked on any of the corals which may change once he truly get acclimated.

Both my purp and powder blue tang bullied him for the first 6 hours but now have accepted him as part of the family. The regal is totally swimming in the open, in and out of the rock cave formation.

Funny thing since this was one of the sought fish I was looking for, the local fish store actually had 3 regals and the one I purchased was the perfect size. The owner told me he got them at Walt Smiths so I assume he has very good repuation of acquring his fish hand caught which made me happier in my purchase decision. I did try to feed him that day but I assume he's still acclimating to my tank.

Again, just thought I'd share my new purchase since this is a regal thread and all and I'll post Pics soon...Mel

MrMongoose · 01/10/2005, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moonpod
Additionally, this thread sort of makes me vaguely uncomfortable. There are a lot of success stories here, but the generality is still that the vast majority of Regals that are collected are probably doomed...there is still no "magic equation" for success. I know it sounds vaguely hippocritical from someone who has one, but it's just food for thought.

Yes I understand what you mean, however mine is not a success story yet, I feel the next month is still going to be critical. I have been reading about this fish for a good 4 months before I took mine home...

I'm also wondering what everyone thinks a good fishload would be in a heavy skimmed 65G sps tank...I think my Regal would be alot more comfortable if I added one more fish. This is what I currently have.
(1) Yellow tang 2in
(1) Regal 4.5in
(2) Neon Gobys

Planning on upgrading to a 120 in about two years....what do you guys think? I do water changes of 15gallons RO/DI every week. I would like to get a very small Copperband

szwab · 01/10/2005, 12:30 PM

How many have had regals for extended periods of time? My understatnding is that getting them to eat is step one. After that there is a nutrition factor and keeping them healthy long term.

I have also heard that long acclimation +4 hours is also very helpful for initial success.

moonpod · 01/10/2005, 12:51 PM

Well my regal seems happy and healthy and is now been in captivity since Aug, 2003.

malegolf · 01/10/2005, 07:08 PM

I've had mine a month, he's eating all the Mysis I feed him soaked in garlic. I've been told that is one of the best diets you can feed them. I'm thinking about a Powder Blue Tang now, how long should I wait before adding another big fish?????? I have a Neon Dotty Back, Flame Hawk, and a Gold Stripe Maroon clown now, the Regal is the king of the tank right now.

maxrep12 · 01/11/2005, 09:04 PM

My Regal Angel does NOT eat zoo's. I guess this is definately the exception to the rule. I am thinking of adding clams as many regal owners seem to be successful with this combo. The only coral my angel has nibbled is "stool of toad".

I was able to watch my regal eat pellet food at the lfs before the purchase.

MrMongoose · 01/11/2005, 09:11 PM

Just thought I would give everyone an update on mine.

I have had him for exactly 1 week today. He is still pretty shy, although is less shy around me

We be buddies! He is ok if I'm sitting on the couch watching him or even up at the front of the tank as long as I'm sitting down. He does not like it when I walk accross the room or if I make any sudden movements.

I had sucess with the following feeding methed.

Steps
1) Offering both clam and oyster on the 1/2 shell laying on liverock.
2) Offering both clam and oyster on the 1/2 shell attached to alge clip.
3) Offering both clam and oyster (meat only) attached to alge clip
4) Todays break through was that he ate squid attached to the alge clip.

The rest of this week I plan to try and get him eating alge and other foods off of the alge clip, and then with alittle luck hopefully he will start eating foods out in open water.
-Nathan

DJPB · 01/12/2005, 09:22 AM

I've had my regal since June 2004. Seems healthy, reigning king of the tank.

szwab · 01/12/2005, 10:29 AM

good to see there are some long term successes! Has anyone had experience with both the red sea and others? is there a difference in quality or just color?

thanks

malegolf · 01/12/2005, 05:34 PM

I sat an oyster on the half shell on the rocks, kind of chopped a little, he wouldn't eat it, just picked at it once. I then put a squid tentacle on a clip he would touch it, both for about 15 minutes. I guess mine only eats Mysis?????????

MrMongoose · 01/12/2005, 06:08 PM

Mine just started eating alge off the clip!!! woohoo balanced diet.

Malegolf thats weird because mine will not eat misis yet. Differant strokes for differant folks

Outerbank · 01/14/2005, 12:04 AM

Malegolf, PBTs get aggressive and can get to a pretty good size. 150, although a very nice tank, may be too small for the PBT unless there is a lot of swimming room.

MrMongoose · 01/18/2005, 05:57 PM

Finally a couple pictures....hope you enjoy. He now is eating anything I put in the tank and swims around freely at all times.

malegolf · 01/18/2005, 06:03 PM

Nice, real nice, I wish mine would eat something else......... Just Mysis.

MrMongoose · 01/19/2005, 12:14 AM

Thats odd....Try putting in other meaty foods and even seaweed for a couple days w/o feeding Mysis. Maybe if he starts to get a little hungry he will change his mind about what is good.

Universal · 01/19/2005, 11:14 AM

MrMongoose that is a lovely looking fish, cant wait until i see one in my tank.

MrMongoose · 01/19/2005, 11:47 AM

Thanks! Yes the feeding in the tank is centered around him and my other fish just get what is left over.

unicornis · 01/20/2005, 09:17 AM

Woah dinno there was a thread ddicated to regal angel.. ok heres my RS regal

MrMongoose · 01/20/2005, 09:39 AM

Awesome! How big is yours? Mine has a 'Y' on its side and your has an 'X'

unicornis · 01/20/2005, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrMongoose
Awesome! How big is yours? Mine has a 'Y' on its side and your has an 'X'

cool you notice it too.... mine is ard 3.5inch

01/09/2005, 07:33 PM	#176
moonpod Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: B.H., Los Angeles Posts: 13,053	depends. Sometimes the tangs are really aggressive, sometimes they ignore 'em. Kinda individual. The acanthurus are worse than say nasos or the bristle tooths. But that's a generality. __________________ Excuses are just the nails for the house of failure. Current Tank Info: 32" Leemar starfire cube now empty and not quite so stinky

01/09/2005, 07:41 PM	#177
Scuba Dog Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: El Dorado Ar Posts: 5,566	Can anyone recomend an online sorce for ordering a regal..one thats already in good health and eating? PM me the response would hate for this thread to be moved to the vender forum.... __________________ Got Salt! Current Tank Info: Twin 180's 150 gallon common sump. 6 250 DE Phoenix, HQI ballasts. MRC4 Recirc skimmer. Pacific coast 1/2 horse chiller. Custom calcium reactor. sps reef in tank a mixed reef in tank b in the making.

01/09/2005, 07:49 PM	#178
moonpod Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: B.H., Los Angeles Posts: 13,053	I am NOT a vendor/retailer/middleman etc....so this is an independent opinion. The fish at PacAquaFarms are generally in pretty good shape. I ASSUME that this is where reefermadness gets their fish from. so I might give them a call. Otherwise TheMarineCenter has a reasonable reputation. I have no experience with justrarefish, but I've heard good things. __________________ Excuses are just the nails for the house of failure. Current Tank Info: 32" Leemar starfire cube now empty and not quite so stinky

01/09/2005, 07:52 PM	#179
moonpod Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: B.H., Los Angeles Posts: 13,053	Additionally, this thread sort of makes me vaguely uncomfortable. There are a lot of success stories here, but the generality is still that the vast majority of Regals that are collected are probably doomed...there is still no "magic equation" for success. I know it sounds vaguely hippocritical from someone who has one, but it's just food for thought. __________________ Excuses are just the nails for the house of failure. Current Tank Info: 32" Leemar starfire cube now empty and not quite so stinky

01/09/2005, 08:42 PM	#180
malegolf Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: IN Posts: 368	I got mine from PA, since I only live 55 miles from them. Jeremy kept if for me a couple weeks after he got it and got it to eat, I feel that's the difference between the 1st one I got and this one. The 1st one I picked up the next day after PA got it and I think that was to much stress for it, this one will now come to the top when I feed him. He will also come to the front of the tank when I walk up to the tank, I just wish he would eat something other than Mysis. I guess that's what he's going eat, I sure would like to feed some seaweed or flake that he would eat...... __________________ If I can't play golf, I'll be at my aquarium enjoying the creatures. Current Tank Info: 150G Acrylic, 3 DE 250W Reef Optix Pendandts HQI 10K Aqualine Bulbs, Hammerhead on 4Way Oceansmotion Closed Loop, Dart on Two 3/4" Sea Swirls on Sump, GEO Skimmer, Aqua Medic Titan 1500 Chiller, Rubbermade Fuge, 180LBS LR, Jetstream 1 CA reacto

01/10/2005, 05:20 AM	#181
orangereefer Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 391	Thought, I'd share. I just purchased a Red Sea Regal from my local fish store. It's about 3-4 inches and is very healthy. To me, this has been a prize fish I had sought for quite some time. It's already acclimated in my 120 reef tank and so far has not picked on any of the corals which may change once he truly get acclimated. Both my purp and powder blue tang bullied him for the first 6 hours but now have accepted him as part of the family. The regal is totally swimming in the open, in and out of the rock cave formation. Funny thing since this was one of the sought fish I was looking for, the local fish store actually had 3 regals and the one I purchased was the perfect size. The owner told me he got them at Walt Smiths so I assume he has very good repuation of acquring his fish hand caught which made me happier in my purchase decision. I did try to feed him that day but I assume he's still acclimating to my tank. Again, just thought I'd share my new purchase since this is a regal thread and all and I'll post Pics soon...Mel

01/10/2005, 12:30 PM	#183
szwab RC Mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 15,225	How many have had regals for extended periods of time? My understatnding is that getting them to eat is step one. After that there is a nutrition factor and keeping them healthy long term. I have also heard that long acclimation +4 hours is also very helpful for initial success. __________________ Mark "I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell" ~ Christopher Walken Current Tank Info: AGE 240 Flatback Hex

01/10/2005, 12:51 PM	#184
moonpod Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: B.H., Los Angeles Posts: 13,053	Well my regal seems happy and healthy and is now been in captivity since Aug, 2003. __________________ Excuses are just the nails for the house of failure. Current Tank Info: 32" Leemar starfire cube now empty and not quite so stinky

01/10/2005, 07:08 PM	#185
malegolf Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: IN Posts: 368	I've had mine a month, he's eating all the Mysis I feed him soaked in garlic. I've been told that is one of the best diets you can feed them. I'm thinking about a Powder Blue Tang now, how long should I wait before adding another big fish?????? I have a Neon Dotty Back, Flame Hawk, and a Gold Stripe Maroon clown now, the Regal is the king of the tank right now. __________________ If I can't play golf, I'll be at my aquarium enjoying the creatures. Current Tank Info: 150G Acrylic, 3 DE 250W Reef Optix Pendandts HQI 10K Aqualine Bulbs, Hammerhead on 4Way Oceansmotion Closed Loop, Dart on Two 3/4" Sea Swirls on Sump, GEO Skimmer, Aqua Medic Titan 1500 Chiller, Rubbermade Fuge, 180LBS LR, Jetstream 1 CA reacto

01/11/2005, 09:04 PM	#186
maxrep12 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 131	My Regal Angel does NOT eat zoo's. I guess this is definately the exception to the rule. I am thinking of adding clams as many regal owners seem to be successful with this combo. The only coral my angel has nibbled is "stool of toad". I was able to watch my regal eat pellet food at the lfs before the purchase. __________________ Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.

01/11/2005, 09:11 PM	#187
MrMongoose Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West Lafayette, IN Posts: 370	Just thought I would give everyone an update on mine. I have had him for exactly 1 week today. He is still pretty shy, although is less shy around me We be buddies! He is ok if I'm sitting on the couch watching him or even up at the front of the tank as long as I'm sitting down. He does not like it when I walk accross the room or if I make any sudden movements. I had sucess with the following feeding methed. Steps 1) Offering both clam and oyster on the 1/2 shell laying on liverock. 2) Offering both clam and oyster on the 1/2 shell attached to alge clip. 3) Offering both clam and oyster (meat only) attached to alge clip 4) Todays break through was that he ate squid attached to the alge clip. The rest of this week I plan to try and get him eating alge and other foods off of the alge clip, and then with alittle luck hopefully he will start eating foods out in open water. -Nathan __________________ Understand first....Buy later.

01/12/2005, 09:22 AM	#188
DJPB Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 945	I've had my regal since June 2004. Seems healthy, reigning king of the tank.

01/12/2005, 10:29 AM	#189
szwab RC Mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 15,225	good to see there are some long term successes! Has anyone had experience with both the red sea and others? is there a difference in quality or just color? thanks __________________ Mark "I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell" ~ Christopher Walken Current Tank Info: AGE 240 Flatback Hex

01/12/2005, 05:34 PM	#190
malegolf Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: IN Posts: 368	I sat an oyster on the half shell on the rocks, kind of chopped a little, he wouldn't eat it, just picked at it once. I then put a squid tentacle on a clip he would touch it, both for about 15 minutes. I guess mine only eats Mysis????????? __________________ If I can't play golf, I'll be at my aquarium enjoying the creatures. Current Tank Info: 150G Acrylic, 3 DE 250W Reef Optix Pendandts HQI 10K Aqualine Bulbs, Hammerhead on 4Way Oceansmotion Closed Loop, Dart on Two 3/4" Sea Swirls on Sump, GEO Skimmer, Aqua Medic Titan 1500 Chiller, Rubbermade Fuge, 180LBS LR, Jetstream 1 CA reacto

01/12/2005, 06:08 PM	#191
MrMongoose Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West Lafayette, IN Posts: 370	Mine just started eating alge off the clip!!! woohoo balanced diet. Malegolf thats weird because mine will not eat misis yet. Differant strokes for differant folks __________________ Understand first....Buy later.

01/14/2005, 12:04 AM	#192
Outerbank Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Texas Posts: 1,220	Malegolf, PBTs get aggressive and can get to a pretty good size. 150, although a very nice tank, may be too small for the PBT unless there is a lot of swimming room. __________________ Scott Current Tank Info: 240 gallon. 26 yr old tank raised ocellaris pair, 24 yr old yellow tang, flame hawk, 9yr old regal angel, 12yr old H. Magnifica, RIP moorish idol (one died at 4 yrs, the second at 5 yrs).

01/18/2005, 05:57 PM	#193
MrMongoose Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West Lafayette, IN Posts: 370	Finally a couple pictures....hope you enjoy. He now is eating anything I put in the tank and swims around freely at all times. __________________ Understand first....Buy later.

01/18/2005, 06:03 PM	#194
malegolf Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: IN Posts: 368	Nice, real nice, I wish mine would eat something else......... Just Mysis. __________________ If I can't play golf, I'll be at my aquarium enjoying the creatures. Current Tank Info: 150G Acrylic, 3 DE 250W Reef Optix Pendandts HQI 10K Aqualine Bulbs, Hammerhead on 4Way Oceansmotion Closed Loop, Dart on Two 3/4" Sea Swirls on Sump, GEO Skimmer, Aqua Medic Titan 1500 Chiller, Rubbermade Fuge, 180LBS LR, Jetstream 1 CA reacto

01/19/2005, 12:14 AM	#195
MrMongoose Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West Lafayette, IN Posts: 370	Thats odd....Try putting in other meaty foods and even seaweed for a couple days w/o feeding Mysis. Maybe if he starts to get a little hungry he will change his mind about what is good. __________________ Understand first....Buy later.

01/19/2005, 11:14 AM	#196
Universal Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 110	MrMongoose that is a lovely looking fish, cant wait until i see one in my tank. __________________ happy fish = happy reefer Current Tank Info: Starting new reef this year cant wait!

01/19/2005, 11:47 AM	#197
MrMongoose Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West Lafayette, IN Posts: 370	Thanks! Yes the feeding in the tank is centered around him and my other fish just get what is left over. __________________ Understand first....Buy later.

01/20/2005, 09:17 AM	#198
unicornis Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 413	Woah dinno there was a thread ddicated to regal angel.. ok heres my RS regal

01/20/2005, 09:39 AM	#199
MrMongoose Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West Lafayette, IN Posts: 370	Awesome! How big is yours? Mine has a 'Y' on its side and your has an 'X' __________________ Understand first....Buy later.