600gal (96x48x30)

[starpolyp]

im not sure if you have read the complete thread...

there wasnt an issue, there were many issues surrounding this set-up. the construction of the stand, the materials used (particle board), the method of moving into the basement especially with Euro bracing. Drilling of the aquarium by himself thus voiding warantee, etc.

btw. most of this was addressed PRIOR to him ordering the aquarium

[Jasontkd]

that very well may be, however, he addressed all of these things after the tank broke, and across the board everyone agreed, none of these factors were the reason. The stand, however constructed, was still strong, and completely square and level. the moving was done by professionals and didn't cause the issue,(otherwise it would have split much sooner). The eurobracing was the only thing, but there are tons of tanks out there with the same type of bracing. Not my first choice in bracing, but who am I to say this is what was at fault.

[jnarowe]

Jasontkd: Ignore the troll. Why get into it with an "I told you so"?

[starpolyp]

classic jnarowe comment. the classic RC fluffer

doesnt really know jack about anything reef (back 2 yrs ago at least. I assume you have learned something since then) but makes a bazillion posts about how great everything looks _until_ the tank busts open and spills all over the floor.

[jnarowe]

you got me there. I definitely don't know much about reef keeping!

[starpolyp]

yes. I know. thats why you shouldnt be giving out advice.

[seawandrr]

Originally posted by jnarowe
you got me there. I definitely don't know much about reef keeping!

Darn it... I was drinking a coke when I got to this quote.. you owe me a keyboard!

[Jasontkd]

what a joke. This is rediculous. A couple of guys want to make themselves feel better by putting others down. All I can say is Karms can be a bad thing. Maybe you should make sure you have the "perfect" setup before pointing fingers

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[jnarowe]

Originally posted by seawandrr
Darn it... I was drinking a coke when I got to this quote.. you owe me a keyboard!

Sorry...sometimes my cynical nature can get the better of me.

[Jasontkd]

I have said my piece. I appologize if I offended anyone, just thought what was said by others was out of line

[jnarowe]

You were entirely correct. I ignored the initial post but after it turned into a troll session, I jumped in. IMO, you have nothing to appologize for.

[starpolyp]

more RC fluff

disgusting

at least what i have to say in regards to aquariums.

RC fluffers make me sick

[starpolyp]

double

[seawandrr]

Dude... did you miss the part where the mod asked you to participate in a helpful manner?

Or is getting banned the goal of this series of rants?

Originally posted by starpolyp
more RC fluff

disgusting

at least what i have to say in regards to aquariums.

RC fluffers make me sick

[AcroSteve]

Though slightly entertaining, it is rather uncouth.

He has been banned before. Guess he didn't learn.

[starpolyp]

Originally posted by AcroSteve
Though slightly entertaining, it is rather uncouth.

He has been banned before. Guess he didn't learn.

I have NEVER been banned. tyvm so Your post is in violation of the terms and conditions of use of this web site and has been edited. Further violations will result in revocation of your posting privileges.
entertaining... uncouth... maybe. but it is all true and everyone knows it.

[Bax]

It is really a shame, that I am urged by this of topic dribble to unsubscribe ot this thread. I am really intererested in how asnatlas resolves that troublesome issue.

We are all, the new and the vastly experienced, dealing with glass and silicone or acrylic and solvent welds, and as with any structural box when put under great stress, this kind of problem could happen to any of us as even with great care, ... detritus happens.

I am here on RC to see beautiful reefs, offer what I hope is a helpful thought every now and again, and learn how to avoid the many pit falls in reef keeping to the best of my abilility. Listening to someone rant becaused they are ****ed off about a path another reefer has chosen just turns me off personally.

[Jasontkd]

I guess some people will always think "it is my way or the highway"

I know that if I ever get to a point where I think I know everything there is to know, that is when I will shut it down. otherwise, my arrogance will cause me to miss something or make a huge mistake.

So, back on topic......

Has this tank been moved to the new house, and has it been rebuilt? how did you go about the rebuild?

[starpolyp]

so no one is disturbed with the fact that NO BODY stepped in and tried to stop the madness? nobody here at RC, no one surrounding Asnatlas at his homes reefer club, not the vendors.

the vendor should have never built and designed the tank the way it was if he knew it was going to be put on its side and slid down a flight of stairs and moved into possition the way it was. He should have asked where it was going (if he didnt) and he should have designed the tank to fit properly into the area it was going into.

all the RC members that encouraged the situation with commments like " just provide a case of beer and we'll get that puppy moved in for you" and " everything looks great, I cant wait to see it done!"

I am quite disturbed by this set up and the way it progressed and the way it was encouraged here by RC members.

[cward]

As abrasive and uncouth starpolyp is in his posts, I have to agree with him a bit. There are new reefers every day who come to RC to learn from threads like this one. We need to be big enough to point out our mistakes so others can learn from them.

starpolyp, pm sent.

[Jasontkd]

I do not disagree with "constructive" criticism at all. I think all concerns should be voice. and granted, comments like the ones above do no one any good, or harm, they are just comments. However, I do disagree with posting after a terrible thing has happened saying "I told you So" and carrying on about how horrible the set up was. Granted, a lot of things can be avoided with proper planning, but there is a line between cunstructive and cruel. Anyway, I guess we should all learn to be cautious about whos advice we take. Anyone on here could be very experienced, while others have no idea, and there is no real way to tell. However, I still don't think a loss needs to be rubbed in a persons face.

[asnatlas]

Originally posted by Jasontkd
So, back on topic......

Has this tank been moved to the new house, and has it been rebuilt? how did you go about the rebuild?

WOW, This thread has seen quite a bit of action in the past few days...

Jasontkd, the tank was cut down, the glass was crated, and it is at the new house in IA where it still remains in the crate... I am debating on a rebuild of the 600gal... I would like to rebuild it but this house has a smaller basement, so I have been debating about selling it and getting something in the 200-300 range, I don't really want to and I still don't know what I am going to do, I have been busy with work and the new house that this is lower on my list at the moment...

[cbui2]

glad to see you back Shawn, is the house new construction built?

[asnatlas]

Originally posted by cbui2
glad to see you back Shawn, is the house new construction built?

Yes, it was a new build that we closed on Jan 25th...

Pics

Basement (angle makes it look ALOT bigger then it is)...