Giesemann Megachrome SE 400W 17500k/w PFO 400 HQI Ballast

kalgra · 03/19/2017, 11:07 AM

So I'm trying to see if anyone is running this bulb/ballast combo and what their thoughts are regarding color, growth, and over all bulb life.

I tried a search but didnt find much.

To be mores specific since PFO no longer exists I'm most interested in how this bulb performs on a 430W HPS ANSI(S145 - S51) ballast as that is actually what the older so called "400W HQI" from PFO was using.

I have 8 of these ballasts and really dont want to switch from them but since Radium changed their 250/400W SE bulb design back in 2010 I have had issues with about 1 in 3 blowing up after about 2-3 weeks of use. To say the least that's always a real kick in the nuts!

I got a hold of an older stock of Radium bulbs manufactured before the 2010 change and they definitely dont have this issue. I also confirmed this with Radium. So before you recommend the 20,000K Radium please keep in mind this is why I'm looking to switch.

I have read several reviews regarding the Giesemann Megachrome SE 400W 17500k and so called "PFO HQI" combos which says they not only like it much better than the Radium but that the bulb lasts twice as long and the ballasts run cooler as well. I'm not sure what to think of these comments and don't necessarily trust the source so I am looking for some experience here. I have also emailed Giesmann but have not gotten a response yet,

Can anyone here chime in on this?

kalgra · 03/20/2017, 10:40 AM

Bump. Hoping for some input.

kalgra · 03/25/2017, 08:46 AM

Obviously not of lot out there with this combo.

How about any experience with either the 400W 17500K crystal or the 400W 21000k blue?

Anyone using either of these bulbs and how do you like them? Some pics would be nice as well.

Mattres · 03/26/2017, 05:10 AM

Hi mate, I have no experience with that bulb/ballast combo but have just purchased the 250W version of the 17.5K crystal. As far as I'm aware all the Giesemann bulbs are HQI and meant to be run at that spec. I know people have complained of the bulb being yellow but that's when it's run under and not on a HQI ballast or HQI setting. In my case I've got the 17.5k crystal bulb running on a Giesemann HQI magnetic ballast and its crisp white.
So with that logic I think the 400W on your PFO 400 ballasts will be run correctly.
Sorry I have no info on how the bulb effects color and growth as currently it's sitting over an empty tank... lol
They are meant to have a long life span though of around two years but I haven't seen this backed up with any evidence.
Hope I was of some help..

dcmartinpc · 02/02/2018, 02:00 PM

Did you ever end up trying this combo? I am seriously considering doing the exact same thing on my tank and I would be very curious as to your results!

Thanks!

Don

JimXRS · 03/16/2018, 04:51 PM

I'm in the same boat! I'm setting up a Marineland 150g cube that I'm looking to run a Giesemann Crystal 17.5k 400w over as I was "informed" that it is awesome for SPS growth. I have a dual 400w PFO HQI Ballast that has been sitting in the basement for ages that will be put to use again. I was thinking about a 20k Radium but I heard the Giesemann is better. Unfortunately, while the Giesemann's sell well I've only found a few tank pics on Google

dcmartinpc · 03/16/2018, 05:17 PM

I broke down and did it!

All driven with PFO 400w HQI

Left - 400 Watt Radium in Coralvue Lumen Bright Large

Right - 400 Watt Giesemann Megachrome Crystal 17.5k in Hamilton Cozumel Sun

2 x 400w Crystal
2 x 54w Blue Plus
2 x 54w Fiji Purple
2 x ReefBrite XHO Blue

iPhone pics don’t do it justice. The color is stunning in person. And my corals have colored up like never before under this setup! I was 10x54w T5 previously and this wins hands down, IMHO.

Don

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Pslreefer · 03/16/2018, 06:48 PM

Do they make a 250w DE bulb?

dcmartinpc · 03/16/2018, 06:55 PM

Yes sir they do.

Don

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Pslreefer · 03/16/2018, 07:16 PM

Ooo

May have to try these instead of Phoenix 14k then.

JimXRS · 03/18/2018, 07:36 PM

Great pics Don! I'm sold on the Giesemann. Now to build my canopy...

Jim

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dcmartinpc · 10/05/2018, 10:18 AM

So I am seriously considering switching back to Radiums with 2 x 54w Fiji Purple, 2 x 54w Blue Plus, and 2 x 48" XHO Actinic Blues. The Giesemann 400w Crystal started burning REALLY pink after a couple months. I was running 4 Blue Plus and 2 XHO at %100 and it was still really purple/pink. The spectrum shift was intense. Gisemann Crystal on the left, Radium on the right.

03/19/2017, 11:07 AM	#1
kalgra Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Westminster Posts: 410	Giesemann Megachrome SE 400W 17500k/w PFO 400 HQI Ballast So I'm trying to see if anyone is running this bulb/ballast combo and what their thoughts are regarding color, growth, and over all bulb life. I tried a search but didnt find much. To be mores specific since PFO no longer exists I'm most interested in how this bulb performs on a 430W HPS ANSI(S145 - S51) ballast as that is actually what the older so called "400W HQI" from PFO was using. I have 8 of these ballasts and really dont want to switch from them but since Radium changed their 250/400W SE bulb design back in 2010 I have had issues with about 1 in 3 blowing up after about 2-3 weeks of use. To say the least that's always a real kick in the nuts! I got a hold of an older stock of Radium bulbs manufactured before the 2010 change and they definitely dont have this issue. I also confirmed this with Radium. So before you recommend the 20,000K Radium please keep in mind this is why I'm looking to switch. I have read several reviews regarding the Giesemann Megachrome SE 400W 17500k and so called "PFO HQI" combos which says they not only like it much better than the Radium but that the bulb lasts twice as long and the ballasts run cooler as well. I'm not sure what to think of these comments and don't necessarily trust the source so I am looking for some experience here. I have also emailed Giesmann but have not gotten a response yet, Can anyone here chime in on this?

02/02/2018, 02:00 PM	#5
dcmartinpc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Niles, MI Posts: 331	Did you ever end up trying this combo? I am seriously considering doing the exact same thing on my tank and I would be very curious as to your results! Thanks! Don __________________ I glue animals to rocks... Current Tank Info: 225G 5x3x2, 2 x 400w Radium on Dual PFO HQI, 2-Blue+, 2-Actinic, 2 x MP40w ES, 2 x Maxspect Gyre and 60 Cube LPS, 6-Blue+, 2-Purple+, 2xMP40w ES. Common 150 Rubbermaid sump. All driven with an Apex.

03/16/2018, 05:17 PM	#7
dcmartinpc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Niles, MI Posts: 331	I broke down and did it! All driven with PFO 400w HQI Left - 400 Watt Radium in Coralvue Lumen Bright Large Right - 400 Watt Giesemann Megachrome Crystal 17.5k in Hamilton Cozumel Sun 2 x 400w Crystal 2 x 54w Blue Plus 2 x 54w Fiji Purple 2 x ReefBrite XHO Blue iPhone pics don’t do it justice. The color is stunning in person. And my corals have colored up like never before under this setup! I was 10x54w T5 previously and this wins hands down, IMHO. Don Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ I glue animals to rocks... Current Tank Info: 225G 5x3x2, 2 x 400w Radium on Dual PFO HQI, 2-Blue+, 2-Actinic, 2 x MP40w ES, 2 x Maxspect Gyre and 60 Cube LPS, 6-Blue+, 2-Purple+, 2xMP40w ES. Common 150 Rubbermaid sump. All driven with an Apex.

03/16/2018, 06:55 PM	#9
dcmartinpc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Niles, MI Posts: 331	Yes sir they do. Don Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ I glue animals to rocks... Current Tank Info: 225G 5x3x2, 2 x 400w Radium on Dual PFO HQI, 2-Blue+, 2-Actinic, 2 x MP40w ES, 2 x Maxspect Gyre and 60 Cube LPS, 6-Blue+, 2-Purple+, 2xMP40w ES. Common 150 Rubbermaid sump. All driven with an Apex.

10/05/2018, 10:18 AM	#12
dcmartinpc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Niles, MI Posts: 331	So I am seriously considering switching back to Radiums with 2 x 54w Fiji Purple, 2 x 54w Blue Plus, and 2 x 48" XHO Actinic Blues. The Giesemann 400w Crystal started burning REALLY pink after a couple months. I was running 4 Blue Plus and 2 XHO at %100 and it was still really purple/pink. The spectrum shift was intense. Gisemann Crystal on the left, Radium on the right. __________________ I glue animals to rocks... Current Tank Info: 225G 5x3x2, 2 x 400w Radium on Dual PFO HQI, 2-Blue+, 2-Actinic, 2 x MP40w ES, 2 x Maxspect Gyre and 60 Cube LPS, 6-Blue+, 2-Purple+, 2xMP40w ES. Common 150 Rubbermaid sump. All driven with an Apex.

03/20/2017, 10:40 AM	#2
kalgra Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Westminster Posts: 410	Bump. Hoping for some input.

03/25/2017, 08:46 AM	#3
kalgra Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Westminster Posts: 410	Obviously not of lot out there with this combo. How about any experience with either the 400W 17500K crystal or the 400W 21000k blue? Anyone using either of these bulbs and how do you like them? Some pics would be nice as well.

03/26/2017, 05:10 AM	#4
Mattres Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 2	Hi mate, I have no experience with that bulb/ballast combo but have just purchased the 250W version of the 17.5K crystal. As far as I'm aware all the Giesemann bulbs are HQI and meant to be run at that spec. I know people have complained of the bulb being yellow but that's when it's run under and not on a HQI ballast or HQI setting. In my case I've got the 17.5k crystal bulb running on a Giesemann HQI magnetic ballast and its crisp white. So with that logic I think the 400W on your PFO 400 ballasts will be run correctly. Sorry I have no info on how the bulb effects color and growth as currently it's sitting over an empty tank... lol They are meant to have a long life span though of around two years but I haven't seen this backed up with any evidence. Hope I was of some help..

03/16/2018, 04:51 PM	#6
JimXRS Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southeast, WI Posts: 164	I'm in the same boat! I'm setting up a Marineland 150g cube that I'm looking to run a Giesemann Crystal 17.5k 400w over as I was "informed" that it is awesome for SPS growth. I have a dual 400w PFO HQI Ballast that has been sitting in the basement for ages that will be put to use again. I was thinking about a 20k Radium but I heard the Giesemann is better. Unfortunately, while the Giesemann's sell well I've only found a few tank pics on Google

03/16/2018, 06:48 PM	#8
Pslreefer In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Posts: 597	Do they make a 250w DE bulb?

03/16/2018, 07:16 PM	#10
Pslreefer In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Posts: 597	Ooo May have to try these instead of Phoenix 14k then.

03/18/2018, 07:36 PM	#11
JimXRS Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southeast, WI Posts: 164	Great pics Don! I'm sold on the Giesemann. Now to build my canopy... Jim Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk