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09/28/2013, 07:07 AM | #51 |
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I thought we all knew this?
When we say UV we mean the violet color... not the actual uv rays. Kinda like Fiji Purple or ATI Purple+ T5 bulbs. And when we say "cook your rock" this does not literally mean boiling it in water!!!
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09/28/2013, 07:26 AM | #52 |
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Before anyone thinks I have some Phd in lighting, the quotes in my posts are all easily found on Google. I would love to take credit but I am not that bright
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09/28/2013, 08:47 AM | #54 |
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What I like about the Mitras is the uniform spread and the ability to run different spectrum at different times through out the day. I've been running two Mistra's over a 75g for about two months, and I must say I really love them. Your corals' growth rate and color will depend on the spectrum and light intensity you choose. Mitras offers countless configurations you can come up with. It took me some time to figure out the combo that works for my tank. The growth rate and color are amazing so far. If you don't wanna mess with programming it, simply ask other Mitras users for their programs which known to produce great growth and color then use them to see which one you like best. I could tell if my tank getting improved or worse in a week or two for each configuration I experimented. Here's a video of my tank. I can tell new growth after every two weeks, especially the caps, they grow too fast. I'm in the process of upgrading to a little bigger tank.
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09/29/2013, 08:05 PM | #56 | |
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But like i said... either light should be a great choice.
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09/29/2013, 09:18 PM | #57 |
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Are the mitras mac friendly yet?
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09/30/2013, 05:44 AM | #58 |
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By that i assume you mean having web based control over the internet as neither have hardware based software that works on Mac, but browser based is currently being implemented.
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09/30/2013, 06:12 AM | #60 |
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Don't take it the wrong way, I am not saying the Mitras is a bad fixture. Quite the opposite, I want to know the difference between the two.
Thinking of ordering a Mitras myself. The Radion Pro does great, don't get me wrong, but if the Mitras is that much better, I am there! Anyone have PAR measurements for the Mitras? Real world PAR in an aquarium, I don't care to see the spread that Joshi does. Last edited by HurricaneSystem; 09/30/2013 at 06:24 AM. |
09/30/2013, 08:52 AM | #61 |
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Thank you ALL for the amazing information. I am still thinking and on the fence about which one to buy. I keep reading over and over to see but I am still kind of confused. So here is an alternative questions for you guys. What IF I buy a cheap light say around IDK $350 LED of some kind, until I can make up my mind about the right one to get. Keep up with my research and fix my tank because technically I will not be able to add anything into the tank for another 6 month from when I take the tank down. I will need another LED for my quarantine tank anyways... so lets say I buy elchepo light for now which one do you guys suggests? (but it has to be one that I can use on a 20 tank for the quarantine... ALL ideas are welcomed and also where do I find them? please keep in mind that right now i do not have any corals just fishes. Thank you ALL again...
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09/30/2013, 11:26 AM | #63 |
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I had this same dilema and opted for the Mitras, better spread of light and I prefer the aesthetics of the GHL, also I hated the massive Radion drivers
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09/30/2013, 06:27 PM | #64 |
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My Mitras 6200 will be here this week. I am going to post a video testing the PAR between this fixture and the Radion Pro over my 60 Cube.
Sirreal63, it is listed as UV on the Radion Pro page and other lighting fixtures. It is a referral to the SPECTRUM. Why don't you count pennies elsewhere and stop trying to pick out the small stuff. I post real world RESULTS so that people might make a choice and save some headaches. When you can purchase ALL of the fixtures and test them as I have, then you can tell me what to post. |
09/30/2013, 07:59 PM | #65 |
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Just wanted make a correction (and clarification) for the importance of accuracy.
I stated neither go below 400nm, what I should of said was neither "peak" below 400nm however they both start below 400nm slightly (to about 380nm), however the human eye can not see much colour below 400nm. I think this will clarify the post above. The Radion uses an LED called semiLEDS UV 405nm (peak) The Mitras equivalent LED is called Hyper violet 425nm (peak) according to Dr Joshi - Radion pro peaks 405 nm - 660 nm Mitras 6200HV 425-660 nm So both have a UV component however peak at different levels. (same as different UV T5 tubes sold for aquariums) "Ultraviolet light can be generated by some light-emitting diodes, but wavelengths below 380 nm are uncommon and the emission peaks are broad, so only the very lowest energy UV photons are emitted, within predominantly visible light." source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_light
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UV-A is also easily blocked because of its low energy, glass, plastic and water are at blocking penetration. It would be interesting to see how much actually gets past optics and the first few inches of water. Even the Sun's strong UV-ABC is blocked in shallow seawater and does not penetrate to typical reef depths.
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Good for a QT and sump, but maybe worth waiting and using the money towards one or the other professional big hitters on this thread.
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10/01/2013, 04:16 AM | #68 |
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I have just fitted the radion pro over a 30 inch cube , can anyone help with a schedule for mainly sps . The preset schedules are a bit limiting , i have no experience using these leds being days old. Will anybody share their schedule . thanks Bill |
10/01/2013, 05:16 AM | #69 |
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Always start low output if new to the tank, this advise is good for any LED. My advise would be to set an on time for around 7am (possibly around the 17k area) set the 7am brightness of the Radion to 0% then have another set point of around noon set to 14k and brightness no more the 50% for the first week. If your corals have been under T5 then set this to 30%
Set another point around 5pm and to 18k and 30% brightness then another point set to 7pm at above 20k to 10% brightness from here on play with mixing blues to get yourself the moonlight you want adding fairly close together set points set to low brightness. after a week you can raise your midday brightness by 10% a week This will give you a good starting template, also the natural template that comes with the software is a very good starter just adjust down the maximum intensity to start.
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10/01/2013, 07:54 AM | #70 |
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What ottawa said,
I would choose the preset "sipidian islands" or however you spell that mode. It is the one I ran the whole time. Run it at about 9 inches over the water and start out at 55% intensity. You will be golden. |
10/01/2013, 08:38 AM | #71 |
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I guess I did not express myself correctly and I apologize for that. I do want either Mitras or Radion and will get one of the or maybe two for my main display tank. I said I was going to buy another one right now while I am doing the cycling of the tank while I decide on which one to get between the two. The one I buy right now, I want it to be strong enough for my quarantine tank (which I am not sure how long I need to quarantine corals for). So my questions is what kind of cheap light I can buy to use on my quarantine tank (I do not want to spend $1000 or $1200 for a quarantine tank light). I would like anything around $300 up to $500. If anyone knows anything or should I look for an used LED? Any ideas? BUT I will get either the mitras or radion for my display tank. Hope I was clear enough ;-)) thank you guys again.
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For a quarantine tank, I would just get a cheap Reefbreeder's light or a used AI Sol Super Blue and run it at 2:1 B:W ratios.
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For a quarantine tank you could get a used sol nano on the selling forum for cheaper. They do not need a controller to adjust white and blue ratios. A used sol would be another good option too, and they are readily available.
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There is a thread with people posting their custom graphs. I found the Radiant Color graph (one of the default graphs in Ecosmart Live) to be a fantastic starting point, and the colors REALLY POP.
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I would grab a radion gen 2 while on discount! beats anything else in the price bracket hands down!
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