Radion Gen 4 Pro - Page 4

Mr. Brooks · 08/12/2016, 09:13 AM

Will the Gen 4 work with Neptune's WXM module?

Dougdog · 08/14/2016, 10:30 PM

As Marine Depot today's video is going to be compatible with the WXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw

bushwick · 08/15/2016, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Brooks

Will the Gen 4 work with Neptune's WXM module?

I heard that it sure will

uwish · 08/15/2016, 08:05 AM

http://reefsupplies.ca/online-store/...072816_web.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw

apparently they are available next week.

Akrite · 08/15/2016, 11:57 PM

After watching the video I see a design flaw. The new HEI optics extend past the body of the Radion shining light in all directions, making unpleasant viewing angles. It's noticeable in the side by side comparison of the G3 and G4. The TIR lens doesn't have this problem unless your looking up at it.

Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I see in the video. Left side of the tank looks brighter too.

kensai · 08/18/2016, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrite

After watching the video I see a design flaw. The new HEI optics extend past the body of the Radion shining light in all directions, making unpleasant viewing angles. It's noticeable in the side by side comparison of the G3 and G4. The TIR lens doesn't have this problem unless your looking up at it.

Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I see in the video. Left side of the tank looks brighter too.

I saw the same thing and is quite disturbing.

ktownhero · 08/18/2016, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrite

After watching the video I see a design flaw. The new HEI optics extend past the body of the Radion shining light in all directions, making unpleasant viewing angles. It's noticeable in the side by side comparison of the G3 and G4. The TIR lens doesn't have this problem unless your looking up at it.

Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I see in the video. Left side of the tank looks brighter too.

Based on the video, it appears to me that these will be best used when mounted inside some sort of canopy. There was clearly more blinding light hitting the camera from the G4.

It is a video though, and it is possible that the actual issue is not being reflected accurately. As usual, we'll find out once people start using them in real-world scenarios

Salty150 · 08/18/2016, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrite

After watching the video I see a design flaw. The new HEI optics extend past the body of the Radion shining light in all directions, making unpleasant viewing angles. It's noticeable in the side by side comparison of the G3 and G4. The TIR lens doesn't have this problem unless your looking up at it.

Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I see in the video. Left side of the tank looks brighter too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kensai

I saw the same thing and is quite disturbing.

LOL, what?!

Jetmech2000 · 08/18/2016, 03:31 PM

I hope it is just the video. I'm really looking forward to getting 3 of these.

twinturbo11 · 08/19/2016, 04:45 AM

How good do you think the shimmer will be on these? (compared to G3, Kessil, etc)

thetedinator · 08/21/2016, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Brooks

Will the Gen 4 work with Neptune's WXM module?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougdog

As Marine Depot today's video is going to be compatible with the WXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw

I'll believe this when someone gets their hands on one and actually controls it with their Apex. I got screwed when I bought a Vectra L1 based on "hearsay" from Tim Marks.

Squidmotron · 08/22/2016, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by thetedinator

I'll believe this when someone gets their hands on one and actually controls it with their Apex. I got screwed when I bought a Vectra L1 based on "hearsay" from Tim Marks.

I preordered one and have an Apex, so I should be able to tell you when they ship.

The previous versions did not immediately jive well with WXM Apex either. There was a notorious glitch with them and it took many months for them to get the kinks worked out. So it's possible the same thing could happen here.

Squidmotron · 08/22/2016, 09:30 AM

Oh yeah.

And when do these guys ship out?

FattyK21 · 08/23/2016, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrite

After watching the video I see a design flaw. The new HEI optics extend past the body of the Radion shining light in all directions, making unpleasant viewing angles. It's noticeable in the side by side comparison of the G3 and G4. The TIR lens doesn't have this problem unless your looking up at it.

Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I see in the video. Left side of the tank looks brighter too.

I noticed that also when watching the video
I just bought me sa G3 Pro a few months back (still waiting on setup) but that really bothered me that the G4 lens go below it and was annoying to see

I guess as of right now i like how the G3 is compared to the G4

Cant wait to finally get my tank setup here in the next month or so

Salty150 · 08/23/2016, 02:43 PM

I guess I don't understand the complaint regarding the new G4 lights?

The compliant is that the light spread is larger and the light is brighter?

DivingTheWorld · 08/23/2016, 03:24 PM

I think the complaint is that it would "appear" the G4 lights leak more light to the sides than the G3 lights. I don't think anyone but Ecotech knows the answer to this yet...

I'll give you an example. I have two G3 lights over our rimless tank in our family room. It's an open top with no canopy. Sitting on a couch across from the fish tank, there is light shining out of the G3s. I personally am used to it, but I do recall it being annoying at first and a few guests have complained.

So...if the G4s bleed a significant amount more light from the fixtures than the G3s, that could kill their ability to be used in general house rooms unless using a closed canopy.

reefeqmover · 08/23/2016, 06:01 PM

Great!! Now I have a bunch of new G3 that are outdated and I need to sell.

oh207 · 08/24/2016, 07:33 AM

I pre-order mine and it appears they have started shipping out. UPS says it will be delivered by this Friday!
I have an open top 120g (no canopy), and the couch is adjacent only about 4 feet away. I'm concerned with light bleed as it would directly affect the viewing angle of the TV.

I guess I will find out soon enough.

DivingTheWorld · 08/24/2016, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh207

I pre-order mine and it appears they have started shipping out. UPS says it will be delivered by this Friday!
I have an open top 120g (no canopy), and the couch is adjacent only about 4 feet away. I'm concerned with light bleed as it would directly affect the viewing angle of the TV.

I guess I will find out soon enough.

Please let us know because this is what I'd be concerned about. It looks like Ecotech won't offer a puck upgrade from G3 to G4 which is lame... I hope they at least offer a replacement HEI lens upgrade.

mfinn · 08/24/2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by reefeqmover

Great!! Now I have a bunch of new G3 that are outdated and I need to sell.

did they suddenly stop working?

reefeqmover · 08/24/2016, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mfinn

did they suddenly stop working?

Just bought them, but now they are outdated...

mfinn · 08/24/2016, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefeqmover

Just bought them, but now they are outdated...

Just because there is a newer model out, doesn't mean they won't grow coral, and have years of use out of them.
Unless you're a equipment junkie.

rc1626 · 08/24/2016, 09:15 PM

BRS has a new youtube video out on these that tests the par spread. They compare the spread with real par numbers between the G3 and G4. Pretty interesting and I'm a Kessil user.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9vLlFAQvxY

ktownhero · 08/26/2016, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rc1626

BRS has a new youtube video out on these that tests the par spread. They compare the spread with real par numbers between the G3 and G4. Pretty interesting and I'm a Kessil user.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9vLlFAQvxY

Great video, as always. What I gathered from that is the difference isn't huge when the lights are closer to the water, but as you raised them up and let the light "spread its legs", there is really a big difference in the consistency across the coverage area. Very nice.

Breadman03 · 08/26/2016, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktownhero

Based on the video, it appears to me that these will be best used when mounted inside some sort of canopy. There was clearly more blinding light hitting the camera from the G4.

It is a video though, and it is possible that the actual issue is not being reflected accurately. As usual, we'll find out once people start using them in real-world scenarios

I'm hoping that the UPS guy speeds so that I can swap my Gen 2's out before work while my wife is out.

08/15/2016, 08:05 AM	#79
uwish Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 131	http://reefsupplies.ca/online-store/...072816_web.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw apparently they are available next week. __________________ 130 Gal Planted freshwater tank 250 Gal FOWLR predator Peninsula tank __________________________________ RCAF Veteran (10 years) Current Tank Info: 130 Gal planted community and 250Gal FOWLR.. Last edited by uwish; 08/15/2016 at 08:10 AM.

08/18/2016, 03:31 PM	#84
Jetmech2000 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 87	I hope it is just the video. I'm really looking forward to getting 3 of these. __________________ 220g reef tank, 300g FOWLER tank

08/22/2016, 09:30 AM	#88
Squidmotron Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 675	Oh yeah. And when do these guys ship out? __________________ .................................................. Current Tank Info: 210 Gallon "Mixed Reef" Tank (84 inches wide)

08/23/2016, 03:24 PM	#91
DivingTheWorld Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: San Ramon, CA Posts: 1,963	I think the complaint is that it would "appear" the G4 lights leak more light to the sides than the G3 lights. I don't think anyone but Ecotech knows the answer to this yet... I'll give you an example. I have two G3 lights over our rimless tank in our family room. It's an open top with no canopy. Sitting on a couch across from the fish tank, there is light shining out of the G3s. I personally am used to it, but I do recall it being annoying at first and a few guests have complained. So...if the G4s bleed a significant amount more light from the fixtures than the G3s, that could kill their ability to be used in general house rooms unless using a closed canopy. __________________ Current Tank Info: LeeMar Rimless (40x24x22), ATI 8x39 Dimmable w/Reefbrite XHO, 2x Vortech MP40w QD w/ Battery Backup, Apex Gold, Trigger Systems Ruby30S, Reef Octopus POV-DC1 w/Auto Waste Collector

08/24/2016, 07:33 AM	#93
oh207 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Amityville, NY Posts: 762	I pre-order mine and it appears they have started shipping out. UPS says it will be delivered by this Friday! I have an open top 120g (no canopy), and the couch is adjacent only about 4 feet away. I'm concerned with light bleed as it would directly affect the viewing angle of the TV. I guess I will find out soon enough. __________________ -oh207 Current Tank Info: DB 65g RR Tank, 30g Sump w sock & fuge, EHEIM 3000 Rtn. Pump, Araganite 40lbs, 40lbs base rock, 60lbs LR, EHEIM 150W Jager Heater, Ecotech MP40wES & MP10wES Vortech Propeller Pump, Ecotech Radion XR30w LED, Seaside Aquatics Protein Skimmer (CS7-150g)

08/12/2016, 09:13 AM	#76
Mr. Brooks MASVC Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 3,477	Will the Gen 4 work with Neptune's WXM module?

08/14/2016, 10:30 PM	#77
Dougdog Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 6	As Marine Depot today's video is going to be compatible with the WXM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw

08/15/2016, 11:57 PM	#80
Akrite Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 640	After watching the video I see a design flaw. The new HEI optics extend past the body of the Radion shining light in all directions, making unpleasant viewing angles. It's noticeable in the side by side comparison of the G3 and G4. The TIR lens doesn't have this problem unless your looking up at it. Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I see in the video. Left side of the tank looks brighter too.

08/19/2016, 04:45 AM	#85
twinturbo11 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 34	How good do you think the shimmer will be on these? (compared to G3, Kessil, etc)

08/23/2016, 02:43 PM	#90
Salty150 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,345	I guess I don't understand the complaint regarding the new G4 lights? The compliant is that the light spread is larger and the light is brighter?

08/23/2016, 06:01 PM	#92
reefeqmover Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: US Posts: 42	Great!! Now I have a bunch of new G3 that are outdated and I need to sell.

08/24/2016, 09:15 PM	#98
rc1626 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Long Island Posts: 451	BRS has a new youtube video out on these that tests the par spread. They compare the spread with real par numbers between the G3 and G4. Pretty interesting and I'm a Kessil user. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9vLlFAQvxY