best additives for sps color?

[gr8nano]

Im looking to enhance my frag colors in my 28 gallon nano. any suggestions would be helpful. i have many different types so best overall for color. mostly green blue yellow pink. thanks for the help!!

[offroadodge]

aminos

[gr8nano]

i suppose i should have written a little more. Im in a 28 gallon nano with a variety of sps. millis, acro, stags, torts. I have a nice mix of color already and with a 20k usio 150w hallide and 2 18 watt actinics i get decent color. im just looking for the "POP"! i dose to keep ph and alk at normal levels and still have good growth, but just want that little bit extra. Maybe it should be light switch? 14k? anybody have luck with zeovit? again, all input is appreciated! thanks!

[marinelife]

Change your lights to more blue!

[WhiteLightsaber]

More blue than 20k with actinics? Is that possible? Do you feed your corals at all? I like using coral frenzy and oyster eggs to help with color.

[cwegescheide]

IMO color is a balancing act... I use zeo supps and they are good. What I think promotes great color is the following:

1) have enough fish in there to create poo. Never underestimate the power of poo. With that said it is a balancing act. You don't want to feed too much that your Po4 rises above IMO .05ppm. A little bit of Nitrates IMO is also ok. I'd say < .10. My tank has no nitrate and .03ppm Hanna.

2) Keep you light bulbs rotated regularly. I run XM 20K's 400W with Icecap ballasts. I change them out every 5 - 6 mos. When I get close to 6mos I can tell a decrease in growth and color.

3) good flow and water paramaters STABLE is also key. Alk/ca as stable as possible. I use dosing pumps.. Litermeter...

4) Genetics is also good. Get good quality frags. not all are created equal.

5) Good husbandry.. Weekly water changes, siphoning detrius etc..

As far as supplements go I like the following Zeo sups. In order of my favs:

Sponge Power
Potassium Iodide
Pohls Extra
AA's

I also use Zeozyme and Coral Snow. I believe this helps keep the skimmer perfoming at peak efficiency.

Happy Reefing.
Chris

[offroadodge]

add a VHO Super Actinic and everything that flouresces will glow giving it the pop u r looking for.

[tate1]

+1 of offroadodge. Good healthy coral can really pop under vho's.

[wickedfish]

What brand aminos and how much do you dose per gallon? Andd if anyone has a before and after on dosing aminos?

[sanababit]

the best addidtives are

Low PO4
Good Lighting
Good Alk

Thats it for me

Sana

[Allmost]

Originally Posted by cwegescheide

IMO color is a balancing act... I use zeo supps and they are good. What I think promotes great color is the following:

1) have enough fish in there to create poo. Never underestimate the power of poo. With that said it is a balancing act. You don't want to feed too much that your Po4 rises above IMO .05ppm. A little bit of Nitrates IMO is also ok. I'd say < .10. My tank has no nitrate and .03ppm Hanna.

2) Keep you light bulbs rotated regularly. I run XM 20K's 400W with Icecap ballasts. I change them out every 5 - 6 mos. When I get close to 6mos I can tell a decrease in growth and color.

3) good flow and water paramaters STABLE is also key. Alk/ca as stable as possible. I use dosing pumps.. Litermeter...

4) Genetics is also good. Get good quality frags. not all are created equal.

5) Good husbandry.. Weekly water changes, siphoning detrius etc..

As far as supplements go I like the following Zeo sups. In order of my favs:

Sponge Power
Potassium Iodide
Pohls Extra
AA's

I also use Zeozyme and Coral Snow. I believe this helps keep the skimmer perfoming at peak efficiency.

Happy Reefing.
Chris

coral Vitelizer as well.

PS. mix the additives, Xtra, AA and CV with Coral snow then feed ! makes a HUGE difference as the corals take it up easier !

Amino acids are really more for PE than coloring., but I guess better PE would help as well.

[dvanacker]

Originally Posted by Allmost

coral Vitelizer as well.

PS. mix the additives, Xtra, AA and CV with Coral snow then feed ! makes a HUGE difference as the corals take it up easier !

Amino acids are really more for PE than coloring., but I guess better PE would help as well.

How do you make such assumptions?? Has there been any study on such things or is this just personal observation?

[Allmost]

Originally Posted by dvanacker

How do you make such assumptions?? Has there been any study on such things or is this just personal observation?

why do u assume its an assumption before asking ?


you SPS ppl really dont like me ehh lol


and to answer, I got it from the best Zeovit source anyone can get. lets just say it goes back to MR. Pahl. I will not post names.

PS. you are more than welcome to think its a myth and NOT try it sorry for wanting to help, you guys really make me sorry for sharing info here ! mixing PCS with the coral food is a common practice proven to work, and just like any other Zeovit additive or mix, there are only info on the results and they dont let any info out !

[dvanacker]

Sorry your right. I should have said "is that an assumption?". And basically what you are telling me is that you believe this simply because someone told you.

Don't take me wrong......it may be true but it may not be as well. I like to see scientific proof or studies or some evidence of some type before I just believe something. I'm just a skeptic at heart I guess.

[mrpet]

prodibio i have been useing it for about 6 months now so far i love it. much better color and better growth as well.

[LifeAquatic]

Originally Posted by cwegescheide

IMO color is a balancing act... I use zeo supps and they are good. What I think promotes great color is the following:

1) have enough fish in there to create poo. Never underestimate the power of poo. With that said it is a balancing act. You don't want to feed too much that your Po4 rises above IMO .05ppm. A little bit of Nitrates IMO is also ok. I'd say < .10. My tank has no nitrate and .03ppm Hanna.

2) Keep you light bulbs rotated regularly. I run XM 20K's 400W with Icecap ballasts. I change them out every 5 - 6 mos. When I get close to 6mos I can tell a decrease in growth and color.

3) good flow and water paramaters STABLE is also key. Alk/ca as stable as possible. I use dosing pumps.. Litermeter...

4) Genetics is also good. Get good quality frags. not all are created equal.

5) Good husbandry.. Weekly water changes, siphoning detrius etc..

As far as supplements go I like the following Zeo sups. In order of my favs:

Sponge Power
Potassium Iodide
Pohls Extra
AA's

I also use Zeozyme and Coral Snow. I believe this helps keep the skimmer perfoming at peak efficiency.

Happy Reefing.
Chris

+1 For this response. Its all about the balance. I have no experience with zeo but Im sure it works great under the proper low nutrient conditions.

I get the happiest during feeding.. Thats when my large purple tang craps out a big one. The big one is usally pulled into my vortech and chopped into a million pieces and scattered through the tank. Awe, natures fertilizer in action. Corals love it. They tell me so by displaying vivid colors.

[Atomikk]

Originally Posted by offroadodge

aminos

It would be much cheaper just to feed your fish.

[rtparty]

Originally Posted by dvanacker

Sorry your right. I should have said "is that an assumption?". And basically what you are telling me is that you believe this simply because someone told you.

Don't take me wrong......it may be true but it may not be as well. I like to see scientific proof or studies or some evidence of some type before I just believe something. I'm just a skeptic at heart I guess.

Please don't get him started. It will just shut down another good thread.

I think it is good practice to state where you get your info. If it is YOUR experiment then tell about it. That way more people can try what you have been doing and see if it is a value to them. Not every tank is the same.

Also posting names is not a bad thing. Just don't use a quote out of context. If the "high up" person really said what you say then they shouldn't be afraid to share it with the world. Especially if it can help us keep corals healthier in our aquariums. That can lead to endless possibilities in this hobby.

JMO

[xtm]

You only have a nano.. no need to drop tons of additives on it. A good old water change, low-nutrient, proper feeding approach is good enough. I would maybe add drops of Amino Acid and that's it. Forget the blue lighting for pop... I would use a strong 10K (like an XM 10K) and a VHO Super Actinic. The thing is that most 20K lamps tend to "wash out" the tank color.. 10K is full spectrum that brings out the reds, greens, and yellows... the 420nm actinics bring out the flourescence of the corals, and also enhances the blues.

[plyle02]

Originally Posted by cwegescheide

IMO color is a balancing act... I use zeo supps and they are good. What I think promotes great color is the following:

1) have enough fish in there to create poo. Never underestimate the power of poo. With that said it is a balancing act. You don't want to feed too much that your Po4 rises above IMO .05ppm. A little bit of Nitrates IMO is also ok. I'd say < .10. My tank has no nitrate and .03ppm Hanna.

2) Keep you light bulbs rotated regularly. I run XM 20K's 400W with Icecap ballasts. I change them out every 5 - 6 mos. When I get close to 6mos I can tell a decrease in growth and color.

3) good flow and water paramaters STABLE is also key. Alk/ca as stable as possible. I use dosing pumps.. Litermeter...

4) Genetics is also good. Get good quality frags. not all are created equal.

5) Good husbandry.. Weekly water changes, siphoning detrius etc..

As far as supplements go I like the following Zeo sups. In order of my favs:

Sponge Power
Potassium Iodide
Pohls Extra
AA's

I also use Zeozyme and Coral Snow. I believe this helps keep the skimmer perfoming at peak efficiency.

Happy Reefing.
Chris

+2
Well said my friend

[Sohal Tang Tim]

Purple Tang craps out a big one!!! lolololololol hillarious! lolol

ideal for coral growth! Beats any frenzy! lololol


Tim

[wickedfish]

who sells prodibio?

[Allmost]

Originally Posted by rtparty

Please don't get him started. It will just shut down another good thread.

I think it is good practice to state where you get your info. If it is YOUR experiment then tell about it. That way more people can try what you have been doing and see if it is a value to them. Not every tank is the same.

Also posting names is not a bad thing. Just don't use a quote out of context. If the "high up" person really said what you say then they shouldn't be afraid to share it with the world. Especially if it can help us keep corals healthier in our aquariums. That can lead to endless possibilities in this hobby.

JMO

I have no Idea where ure anger comes from, perhaps problems at home hence why u had to get a reef tank, but as many know Zeovit do not publish what is in their bottel nor are there any SCIENTIFIC papers on Zeovit. look at Zeovit bottels, no ingredients ! perhaps a bit more research, and you would have found this out

about names, its a personal choice, him and me do not want to post names, as mentioned above, Zeovit info are NOT published. you will not find a ingredient list for Zeovit additives ! so please, I ask you to not hate me cause of your lack of knowledge, I shared some really good info here, and those who understand it, will try it or research on it, you on the other hand are following me around with hate replies like this.

[Allmost]

Originally Posted by dvanacker

Sorry your right. I should have said "is that an assumption?". And basically what you are telling me is that you believe this simply because someone told you.

Don't take me wrong......it may be true but it may not be as well. I like to see scientific proof or studies or some evidence of some type before I just believe something. I'm just a skeptic at heart I guess.

lol I know, I told my Zeovit friends last time, I said Zeovit is like a religion, u gotta have faith ! if u ask to be shown god or in this case ingeredients of the blue bottels, u get nothing
lol

[Allmost]

ok I should add that adding PCS too much will have fading effects on corals. specially millies. so the right amount will have more effect, too much will fade the SPS (as with any Zeovit product ) lol