Leonardo's Lagoon - Page 29

GSMguy · 07/07/2009, 08:22 AM

why not just buy a profilux leonardo? this is not something i would leave to chance.

scaryperson27 · 07/07/2009, 05:25 PM

Yeah, no kidding. Isn't the only way you can run two timers in series is if they both receive power?

Leonardo, you need some sort of Digital timer, that is for sure. The mentioned Profilux would be so nice on your tank. That or the new Neptune that is coming out.

ksed · 07/08/2009, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GSMguy
why not just buy a profilux leonardo? this is not something i would leave to chance.

Yes its a nice unit but if the contacts stick on the controller or on its power bar as well, the computer will not know this so you will run into the same situation if they stick.
I found out that if you are running an magnetic ballast you don't need a special timer because its a inductive load like motors. But if you run electronic ballasts it is recommend that you run specific timers because of frequency loss through the timer.Thats the reason of UL approval for specific timers. Also don't run timers more than 70%of there capacity.
I not sure how to run them but horticulture farms run there lighting on timers controlled with a relay. This allows them to remove a fairly cheap relay after a period of time for a new one. You can get them with many amp ratings. Also you can get some relays with a clear glass so you can actually see the contacts condition eg carboned up or corroded.
Your safest best is with relay which you can toss away after a while and put a new one. Doing that with a controller it can get very expensive.
Just my imo.

Thanks

Kevin

SunnyX · 07/14/2009, 07:31 AM

DELETE

Carlos Arouche · 07/14/2009, 08:46 AM

I just canÂ´t believe on that... and very glad to know that there is a 2.0 coming...

CanÂ´t wait to see the next reef !!!

Leonardo_ · 07/17/2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by jnarowe
Or the buildier was trying to cover up sloppy work?

Can't wait to see 2.0!

No sloppy work on this tank Jonathan!

Kevin, thanks for all the information about the timers. I will have a look if something similar is available here in Europe. Thanks for thinking with me.

Nick, thanks for mentioning the Profilux. I think it is a very nice unit. But I'm always afraid if you let everything depend on one unit, the system is more vulnerable for failure. If the unit fails, the whole tank is down.
I like to spread the risks and have a separate controller for all the functions. But you're right there has to happen something to prevent such disaster.
Besides that I'm still a "poor" student, and at the moment I prefer to spend my money on nice corals then a (also nice) controlling computer.

scaryperson27; You can run two digital timers in series, because most of them have a backup battery, so they will continue to work, even if they aren't getting power.

And the others, thank you for the reactions!

Glad I can continue this thread on RC, I'm very happy that we're back. Now it is time for an update I think....

Leonardo

scaryperson27 · 07/17/2009, 07:52 AM

Oh i see. That makes sense

mpoletti · 07/17/2009, 08:08 AM

And you were worried that you were going to have to move your thread

Update Please

Leonardo_ · 07/17/2009, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mpoletti
And you were worried that you were going to have to move your thread

Update Please

I was definitely worried... Not only I would have lost this thread, but also the Formosa Forest thread. Besides that all my international contacts would be lost...

Update in about ten minutes

Leonardo

Leonardo_ · 07/17/2009, 09:24 AM

A few pages back I desribed the new plans for my Lagoon. These include:

*90 degree turn of the tank, making it peninsular and 3-side viewable.
*Adding a layer of Aragonite sand.
*Finalizing and improve the aquascape.
*Covering the Lightrack with Foamed PVC plate + cooling.
*Adding more corals and livestock.

Last week I began the transition. The whole rebuild isn't finished yet, so more updates will follow later.

Cooking the dry Aragonite sand in used tankwater. I used several Aragonite grain sizes and a bag of Caribsea Reef-grade LiveSand to make the sandbed look natural.
This sand has been cooking for 1,5 month.

I found some large dry coral skeletons to create an aquascape. I'm not sure if I will use them all (or at all), But I have something to work with now.

First, they were cleaned using a high pressure power washer.

After the cleaning they were sun dried/bleached.

Then they were cooked in used tank water for two months.

Leonardo_ · 07/17/2009, 09:25 AM

These coral branches are VERY porous, but very strong and heavy.

They were this strong, that I had to use a concrete powerdrill to get a hole through them

Of course every rebuild demand a large supply of saltwater. I decided to perform a 50% waterchange with new saltwater.

After three EXHAUSTING days, the tank has it's new place. A 3-side viewable peninsular Lagoon!

Now the "only" thing I have to do is filling up the tank, replumbing, redo the electrical part, and aquascaping...

In the meantime all my corals are patiently waiting for their improved home... In this last photo you see some of my large colonies.

Leonardo

SunnyX · 07/17/2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mpoletti
And you were worried that you were going to have to move your thread

Update Please

I was worried about the same thing as well! Moving an entire thread isn't exactly like opening a bag of chips!

Glad to see everyone back and happy again.

Leonardo_ · 07/17/2009, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunnyX
I was worried about the same thing as well! Moving an entire thread isn't exactly like opening a bag of chips!

Glad to see everyone back and happy again.

I'm also very happy Sonny!

You're right, moving a thread isn't very easy.

One photo left, I almost forgot it. This is my small side table with all the daily dosing stuff and watertests etc.

More updates when I get some more work done!!

Leonardo

gig · 07/17/2009, 09:33 AM

well, profilux is german, so you should be able to get it in EU

jeff127 · 07/17/2009, 09:35 AM

Whats that next to the vodka, Leonardo?

Jeff.

Leonardo_ · 07/17/2009, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gig
well, profilux is german, so you should be able to get it in EU

I ment the heavy duty timers for the MH, like Kevin mentioned

But you're right most of the equipment is from Germany and easily available.

Jeff, the bottle next to the Vodka is HCL (hydrochloric acid 1 MOL) I used it to clean my pumps after they clogged up with calcium during the disaster.
Don't mistaken them when you having a party though!

Leonardo

jeff127 · 07/17/2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Jeff, the bottle next to the Vodka is HCL (hypochloric acid 1 MOL) I used it to clean my pumps after they clogged up with calcium during the disaster.
Don't mistaken them when you having a party though!

Leonardo

Very true.

I'm looking forward to the next updates.

Jeff.

gig · 07/17/2009, 09:42 AM

Leo, where are you located again? I don't recall...good luck with 2.0, it'll be sweet!

Leonardo_ · 07/17/2009, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gig
Leo, where are you located again? I don't recall...good luck with 2.0, it'll be sweet!

I'm from The Netherlands. Thanks, I hope you will like the rebuild.

Leonardo

mpoletti · 07/17/2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunnyX
I was worried about the same thing as well! Moving an entire thread isn't exactly like opening a bag of chips!

Glad to see everyone back and happy again.

I also saw that you were worried about having to move your "popular" thread. Maybe I am different, but I was looking forward to more outside time than me time. Sitting behind a computer can do cazy things to a mans pysche. I'm just glad we have a place where we can share our experiences.

Keep up the good work guys

jeff127 · 07/17/2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

I'm from The Netherlands. Thanks, I hope you will like the rebuild.

Leonardo

Did you go to the big event organised a few weeks ago by Ron Hessing, Leonardo?

Jeff.

jnarowe · 07/17/2009, 10:45 AM

The one thing about using a multi-controller is that you get data back from the system you can graph and use to evaluate tank conditions, husbandry methods, etc. Something to consider.

You had me a bit startled with the coral and garden rock pics! I thought, wow, this is going to be a real lagoon in your back yard...

pookstreet · 07/17/2009, 11:02 AM

Cool updates. Anxiously awaiting photos of the tank filled once again. I need more inspiration from all the reef tank gurus here to keep me going!

mpoletti · 07/17/2009, 11:10 AM

Very Nice Leo.

Are you a footballer?

Leonardo_ · 07/17/2009, 11:35 AM

Jeff; Of course I went there

Sanjay's and Anthony's lectures were very interesting.

Jonathan; You're right. That information can be very interesting, when making changes in your husbandry etc. Maybe I do have to look into it. btw, no Lagoon in the backyard! In winter it would be covered in ice over here

Thanks Kenny! I'll give an update as soon as I have more progress to show.

Mark, I'm not a footballer, why are you asking?

07/07/2009, 08:22 AM	#701
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	why not just buy a profilux leonardo? this is not something i would leave to chance. __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

07/14/2009, 08:46 AM	#705
Carlos Arouche Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 193	I just canÂ´t believe on that... and very glad to know that there is a 2.0 coming... CanÂ´t wait to see the next reef !!! __________________ Carlos Arouche de Toledo. Aquarist since 1998. Current Tank Info: 500 galon reef tank

07/17/2009, 08:08 AM	#708
mpoletti You'll never walk alone Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 18,245	And you were worried that you were going to have to move your thread Update Please __________________ -Mark a.) I believe... The curse is a reality b.) Fish poop is your friend c.) Why chase numbers? #CoralsLiketoDisco #ReefSerenity

07/17/2009, 09:24 AM	#710
Leonardo_ TRC Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,568	UPDATE! A few pages back I desribed the new plans for my Lagoon. These include: 90 degree turn of the tank, making it peninsular and 3-side viewable. Adding a layer of Aragonite sand. Finalizing and improve the aquascape. Covering the Lightrack with Foamed PVC plate + cooling. *Adding more corals and livestock. Last week I began the transition. The whole rebuild isn't finished yet, so more updates will follow later. Cooking the dry Aragonite sand in used tankwater. I used several Aragonite grain sizes and a bag of Caribsea Reef-grade LiveSand to make the sandbed look natural. This sand has been cooking for 1,5 month. I found some large dry coral skeletons to create an aquascape. I'm not sure if I will use them all (or at all), But I have something to work with now. First, they were cleaned using a high pressure power washer. After the cleaning they were sun dried/bleached. Then they were cooked in used tank water for two months. __________________ 450G Office Reef

07/17/2009, 09:25 AM	#711
Leonardo_ TRC Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,568	UPDATE! These coral branches are VERY porous, but very strong and heavy. They were this strong, that I had to use a concrete powerdrill to get a hole through them Of course every rebuild demand a large supply of saltwater. I decided to perform a 50% waterchange with new saltwater. After three EXHAUSTING days, the tank has it's new place. A 3-side viewable peninsular Lagoon! Now the "only" thing I have to do is filling up the tank, replumbing, redo the electrical part, and aquascaping... In the meantime all my corals are patiently waiting for their improved home... In this last photo you see some of my large colonies. Leonardo __________________ 450G Office Reef

07/07/2009, 05:25 PM	#702
scaryperson27 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Coral, F.L. Posts: 2,106	Yeah, no kidding. Isn't the only way you can run two timers in series is if they both receive power? Leonardo, you need some sort of Digital timer, that is for sure. The mentioned Profilux would be so nice on your tank. That or the new Neptune that is coming out.

07/14/2009, 07:31 AM	#704
SunnyX Moved On Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,991	DELETE

07/17/2009, 07:52 AM	#707
scaryperson27 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Coral, F.L. Posts: 2,106	Oh i see. That makes sense

07/17/2009, 09:33 AM	#714
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	well, profilux is german, so you should be able to get it in EU __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

07/17/2009, 09:35 AM	#715
jeff127 Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK Posts: 98	Whats that next to the vodka, Leonardo? Jeff.

07/17/2009, 09:42 AM	#718
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	Leo, where are you located again? I don't recall...good luck with 2.0, it'll be sweet! __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

07/17/2009, 10:45 AM	#722
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	The one thing about using a multi-controller is that you get data back from the system you can graph and use to evaluate tank conditions, husbandry methods, etc. Something to consider. You had me a bit startled with the coral and garden rock pics! I thought, wow, this is going to be a real lagoon in your back yard... __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

07/17/2009, 11:02 AM	#723
pookstreet Registered Stick Killer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Upland, California Posts: 7,332	Cool updates. Anxiously awaiting photos of the tank filled once again. I need more inspiration from all the reef tank gurus here to keep me going! __________________ Kenny Men's natures are alike, it is their habits that carry them far apart - Confucius All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke Talent is God given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. Conceit is self-given. Be careful - John Wooden Current Tank Info: What's that???

07/17/2009, 11:10 AM	#724
mpoletti You'll never walk alone Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 18,245	Very Nice Leo. Are you a footballer? __________________ -Mark a.) I believe... The curse is a reality b.) Fish poop is your friend c.) Why chase numbers? #CoralsLiketoDisco #ReefSerenity

07/17/2009, 11:35 AM	#725
Leonardo_ TRC Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,568	Jeff; Of course I went there Sanjay's and Anthony's lectures were very interesting. Jonathan; You're right. That information can be very interesting, when making changes in your husbandry etc. Maybe I do have to look into it. btw, no Lagoon in the backyard! In winter it would be covered in ice over here Thanks Kenny! I'll give an update as soon as I have more progress to show. Mark, I'm not a footballer, why are you asking? __________________ 450G Office Reef