180 gallon build: Modular control system, 3D printed equipment, open-source - Page 4

7thdarkangel · 03/16/2016, 02:34 PM

I'm definitely going to try out that ball valve idea.
Nice Build!

travis9791 · 03/16/2016, 05:40 PM

I't took me a while to get the wife convinced to let me get into saltwater.Now I'm going to have to work on a 3d printer.

jrhupp · 03/16/2016, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thdarkangel

I'm definitely going to try out that ball valve idea.
Nice Build!

Thanks. I'll put the source files up as soon as I am finished putting them together. I have been through many iterations of the valve (about 18 months of tinkering on the design) and am pretty confident they are good to go. But want to get the final version up and running before sharing the files, just incase there is something missed.

jrhupp · 03/16/2016, 06:44 PM

I had to make some space on my phone today and caught that I had a couple other progress pics from the valve build.

Here are the assembled balls after sanding.

Here they are after being brushed with acetone. Once the part gets sanded, if it is not brushed with acetone it won't vapor polish correctly (or at all). Sanding and brushing with solvent alone can provide a pretty decent finish. But its not quite as nice as what you get with a good vapor polishing.

Here are some smaller parts being vapor polished. The setup is pretty basic, but it gets the job done.

laverda · 03/16/2016, 10:04 PM

I really like you valve design.

ThisGuy12 · 03/17/2016, 10:06 AM

How long do you leave the parts in the vapor polishing "machine"? That looks like a mad scientist experiment

jrhupp · 03/17/2016, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisGuy12

How long do you leave the parts in the vapor polishing "machine"? That looks like a mad scientist experiment

They stay in until the surface looks mostly smooth; typically just a couple of minutes. Things generally don't smooth out entirely in the vapor bath, but they will continue to "polish" for several minutes after being removed from the vapor while the solvent dissipates from the surface. So its something close to the final surface finish I look for before pulling them out.

This is something that is more art then science (at least with a crude setup like this) as the surface and temperature of the part prior to going into the bath has a fairly significant impact on how long the polish takes.

dread240 · 03/17/2016, 12:48 PM

I hope you realize what you've created. I'm soon to be the most annoying question asker in the world as I have nobody else to reference when it comes to 3d printing :-P

Westcoastindia · 03/17/2016, 01:35 PM

I use solidworks since a long time. I find it easy to mill on a 5 axis cnc machine. But there are some limitations to the geometry. Professional 3d prints cost a fortune. Never had a go for diy printers.
Surely tagging.

Way to go mate.
Good luck

jrhupp · 03/17/2016, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dread240

I hope you realize what you've created. I'm soon to be the most annoying question asker in the world as I have nobody else to reference when it comes to 3d printing :-P

No worries. I'll offer what help I can.

jrhupp · 03/17/2016, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westcoastindia

I use solidworks since a long time. I find it easy to mill on a 5 axis cnc machine. But there are some limitations to the geometry. Professional 3d prints cost a fortune. Never had a go for diy printers.
Surely tagging.

Way to go mate.
Good luck

Thanks.

CNC is on the dream list of tools. I don't need something as fancy as what you work with. But would like to build something to do flat work with plywood. I have many design ideas I would like to explore using interlocking plywood pieces to build mid-century'ish furniture.

If you don't mind me asking, what part of India are you in? I have traveled a bit across India for work. Just curious if I might have been in the same area at one point or another.

Westcoastindia · 03/18/2016, 07:41 AM

As the name suggests, WestCoast.
Mumbai, Maharashtra.
I'm sure you must have visited.

jrhupp · 03/18/2016, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Westcoastindia

As the name suggests, WestCoast.
Mumbai, Maharashtra.
I'm sure you must have visited.

I here it is quite nice there, but unfortunately that is not a part of the country I have been in. Maybe at some point in the future I'll get the chance.

Westcoastindia · 03/18/2016, 12:17 PM

Sure mate! You can be our guest. Will take you to the southern most part of the country where a reef exist. Mostly indo Pacific region, a lot of local stuff is poached. Corals are banned in India. Even imports via sites are restricted. One can't possess or keep a coral legally. But you might know how thing work here.

I'm visiting that place in third week of April. Will post stuff if I'm alive or not jailed. (just kidding)
Apologies I don't wanna hijack this thread, let's stick back to the topic.

Harry_Y · 03/18/2016, 07:28 PM

Now that's a cool idea for the PC boards

I never thought about scribing the resist away

I have tried milling them directly with limited success

Harry_Y · 03/18/2016, 08:08 PM

For tin plating look at a product called Tinnit

Reefers4U · 03/19/2016, 03:43 AM

This is most radical man! Subscribed and ordered a 3D printer. Is that a surge device? Sorry if I missed the function.

zcfihu · 03/19/2016, 06:25 AM

Took too long to get the kid to bed, so it seems I can't fix the links in my original posts. So here are the images (I hope). Should be in the same order.

jrhupp · 03/19/2016, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry_Y

For tin plating look at a product called Tinnit

I know many use it, and I have considered it but haven't tried it yet. I have been hesitant as from what I have read online it has a limited shelf life once mixed, the tin coat can be quite thin and that it is prone to wiskering between closely spaced traces. This has kept me from trying it; especially the shelf life issue as I don't do PCBs very often.

It probably provides a brighter nicer finish then what I am using and is likely a bit easier to solder to. But for the cost and shelf stability I pretty happy with the Oatey product at the moment. But a may give this a go down the road.

jrhupp · 03/19/2016, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reefers4U

This is most radical man! Subscribed and ordered a 3D printer. Is that a surge device? Sorry if I missed the function.

Yes, the valves are for a surge system. In the early posts I have some pics of the overall setup and you can see the surge tank in them; its a 20 gallon long mounted above the display tank. The plan is to run two of these valves on an alternating cycle, dumping water in opposite ends of the tank.

Devaji108 · 03/19/2016, 11:34 PM

wow, just wow man...

eb2292 · 03/21/2016, 07:15 AM

Dude. This is so awesome.

I've been wanted a 3D printer for a long time.. so I actually just pulled the trigger on a Makerfarm Pegasus 10" after seeing this thread. Can't wait for more progress pics!

Bent · 03/21/2016, 07:29 AM

Yeah this is pretty much the coolest build on earth.

eb2292 · 03/21/2016, 08:22 AM

My inner nerd senses are going nuts. Need moar pics.

dread240 · 03/21/2016, 09:34 AM

I ended up going wanhao duplicator i3v2 LOL

Lets get a tally at how much money he has cost us from reading this thread.... I'm about 500 down with buying filaments and stuff now lol

03/16/2016, 02:34 PM	#76
7thdarkangel Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Naugatuck,CT Posts: 114	I'm definitely going to try out that ball valve idea. Nice Build! __________________ 180g DT, 125g Sump, 40g Frag, 40g Refugium, Build: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2512584

03/16/2016, 06:44 PM	#79
jrhupp Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 318	I had to make some space on my phone today and caught that I had a couple other progress pics from the valve build. Here are the assembled balls after sanding. Here they are after being brushed with acetone. Once the part gets sanded, if it is not brushed with acetone it won't vapor polish correctly (or at all). Sanding and brushing with solvent alone can provide a pretty decent finish. But its not quite as nice as what you get with a good vapor polishing. Here are some smaller parts being vapor polished. The setup is pretty basic, but it gets the job done. __________________ Current build thread : http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2547305 I ate a jellyfish... tasted like soy sauce. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon system in progress

03/16/2016, 10:04 PM	#80
laverda Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 6,902	I really like you valve design. __________________ 240G mixed reef, 29G SPS/LPS clam tank, 50G mixed reef Current Tank Info: 300g mixed reef, 50g cube

03/17/2016, 12:48 PM	#83
dread240 Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Essex, MD Posts: 979	I hope you realize what you've created. I'm soon to be the most annoying question asker in the world as I have nobody else to reference when it comes to 3d printing :-P __________________ BRB, Goldfish on fire How much deeper would the ocean really be if sponges didn't exist? Current Tank Info: 75 gallon mixed reef tank

03/18/2016, 12:17 PM	#89
Westcoastindia Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: India Posts: 96	Sure mate! You can be our guest. Will take you to the southern most part of the country where a reef exist. Mostly indo Pacific region, a lot of local stuff is poached. Corals are banned in India. Even imports via sites are restricted. One can't possess or keep a coral legally. But you might know how thing work here. I'm visiting that place in third week of April. Will post stuff if I'm alive or not jailed. (just kidding) Apologies I don't wanna hijack this thread, let's stick back to the topic. __________________ Ball till I fall, I did it for my doll. Last edited by Westcoastindia; 03/18/2016 at 12:24 PM.

03/16/2016, 05:40 PM	#77
travis9791 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 72	I't took me a while to get the wife convinced to let me get into saltwater.Now I'm going to have to work on a 3d printer.

03/17/2016, 10:06 AM	#81
ThisGuy12 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 822	How long do you leave the parts in the vapor polishing "machine"? That looks like a mad scientist experiment

03/17/2016, 01:35 PM	#84
Westcoastindia Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: India Posts: 96	I use solidworks since a long time. I find it easy to mill on a 5 axis cnc machine. But there are some limitations to the geometry. Professional 3d prints cost a fortune. Never had a go for diy printers. Surely tagging. Way to go mate. Good luck

03/18/2016, 07:41 AM	#87
Westcoastindia Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: India Posts: 96	As the name suggests, WestCoast. Mumbai, Maharashtra. I'm sure you must have visited.

03/18/2016, 07:28 PM	#90
Harry_Y Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NY Posts: 454	Now that's a cool idea for the PC boards I never thought about scribing the resist away I have tried milling them directly with limited success __________________ . 180 Gallon Reef with Basement Sump, Apex Controller, Hamilton Cebu Sun Light, Lifereef Skimmer and Calcium Reactor.

03/18/2016, 08:08 PM	#91
Harry_Y Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NY Posts: 454	For tin plating look at a product called Tinnit __________________ . 180 Gallon Reef with Basement Sump, Apex Controller, Hamilton Cebu Sun Light, Lifereef Skimmer and Calcium Reactor.

03/19/2016, 03:43 AM	#92
Reefers4U Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: IE Posts: 1,422	This is most radical man! Subscribed and ordered a 3D printer. Is that a surge device? Sorry if I missed the function. __________________ "In a free government the security for civil rights must be the same as that for religious rights." -James Madison Current Tank Info: 120 Visio // Radions // Eschopps Skimmer // MP40 x2 // Tunze ATO // BRS Dosing Pumps and Dual Reactor // Apex Gold //

03/19/2016, 06:25 AM	#93
zcfihu Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 4	Took too long to get the kid to bed, so it seems I can't fix the links in my original posts. So here are the images (I hope). Should be in the same order.

03/19/2016, 11:34 PM	#96
Devaji108 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jackson Hole Wy Posts: 3,430	wow, just wow man...

03/21/2016, 07:15 AM	#97
eb2292 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 295	Dude. This is so awesome. I've been wanted a 3D printer for a long time.. so I actually just pulled the trigger on a Makerfarm Pegasus 10" after seeing this thread. Can't wait for more progress pics!

03/21/2016, 07:29 AM	#98
Bent I got nothin' Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The anals Posts: 6,420	Yeah this is pretty much the coolest build on earth. __________________ Quitters never lose. [QUOTE=CStrickland]Who gets mad at a starfish?[/QUOTE] Current Tank Info: 75g DT, 30G refugium, 10g chaeto tank, 50g stock tank basement sump

03/21/2016, 08:22 AM	#99
eb2292 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 295	My inner nerd senses are going nuts. Need moar pics.

03/21/2016, 09:34 AM	#100
dread240 Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Essex, MD Posts: 979	I ended up going wanhao duplicator i3v2 LOL Lets get a tally at how much money he has cost us from reading this thread.... I'm about 500 down with buying filaments and stuff now lol __________________ BRB, Goldfish on fire How much deeper would the ocean really be if sponges didn't exist? Current Tank Info: 75 gallon mixed reef tank