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Unread 08/01/2017, 12:26 PM   #76
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I will probably put a foam protective covering but in Los Angeles the temperature will go from 40 degrees on a cold winter night to 105/110 degrees on a hot summer day.


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Unread 08/01/2017, 12:54 PM   #77
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Official understatement of 2017.



This tank is so over the top awesome from the crazy amount of MPs to the professional fish room to the ridiculous canopy to the fantastic aquascape. Thank you for doing what most of us can not afford nor are daring enough to undertake and posting the pictures online so we may live vicariously through you.



Hats off, this is one amazing build. Subscribed!


Wow your compliments have lit up my day, I love this hobby and have always had an affinity towards fish and underwater life.

My first fish was approximately 30 years ago with a Beta fish and it grew from there.

Back in 2009 I started my first reef tank and I found myself super addicted...I loved having such a complex world at my fingertips and the challenges of keeping a reef keeps me coming back!

I thank God that I've been given a good job and I've been working hard and been blessed to have the funds to make this tank and my vision come to life!

Thanks again for your supportive post!

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Unread 08/01/2017, 01:49 PM   #78
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I will probably put a foam protective covering but in Los Angeles the temperature will go from 40 degrees on a cold winter night to 105/110 degrees on a hot summer day.


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I wasn't sure what you had for climate conditions but figured it didnt hurt to mention it just in case it was an oversight. I'd hate to see a major leak on that beast. If you do have concerns about any freak/ odd cold snaps you can add something called heat trace tape. Its basically a heated wire taped to the exposed portion of pipes and it is electrically powered. They use these on exterior sprinkler systems for example but they do have a short lifespan (maybe 5yrs) but still it adds piece of mind. In your application it looks like it would be a good canidate because you could also set it up to toggle on only when needed making it last much longer. At any rate, great build!

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Unread 08/01/2017, 09:27 PM   #79
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The pipes were placed underground before I poured the concrete and it travels approximately 75' in total!




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And does it run downhill all the way to the sump? I ask because I contemplated a remote fish room that required the drain line to go down and then back up a bit to go into the sump. But it looks like you've figured all that out with your build. I've seen a few others post with similar setups to yours and have wondered how any potential air traps are avoided?


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It is a flat run that has to come up and over the sump, so there is a chance for possible air bubbles...we built in some venting outside of the fish room to try to prevent air pockets! Hopefully it works out...here is a pic of the air vents.




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It is a flat run that has to come up and over the sump, so there is a chance for possible air bubbles...we built in some venting outside of the fish room to try to prevent air pockets! Hopefully it works out...here is a pic of the air vents.




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Ahh...yes, I see. I would think the air vents would make a big difference. Keep the updates and pics coming!


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Unread 08/04/2017, 07:00 PM   #82
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sweet tank... love the size and the aquascape is awesome. why do you have all the powerheads on one side though?? those MP60s will probably have more then enough flow for that side


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Freeze protection in LA? NO, you need heat protection, lol. Even if it does get cold enough, the constant water movement wouldn't allow the pipes to freeze.

Great build George! Great attention to detail!


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Unread 08/07/2017, 05:49 PM   #84
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Yes heat protection but freeze protection as well, dont be naive kust because its LA, thats a big problem, easily avoided for those fluke days that occur over the years...

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Yes heat protection but freeze protection as well, dont be naive kust because its LA, thats a big problem, easily avoided for those fluke days that occur over the years...

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I'm not being naive, I'm just stating the facts. There is no way his pipes would freeze living in LA. It gets no where near freezing here in S.Cali. Even if it does get that low, the water in the pipes would have to be standing still for it to freeze. His pipes will have constant water movement from the drains to the returns which is also moving 78-82 degree water.

Even the Jacuzzi at the cabin in the mountains I used to rent wouldn't freeze over the winter and it's much colder up there than LA. All they did was run the Jacuzzi all winter.


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I'm not being naive, I'm just stating the facts. There is no way his pipes would freeze living in LA. It gets no where near freezing here in S.Cali. Even if it does get that low, the water in the pipes would have to be standing still for it to freeze. His pipes will have constant water movement from the drains to the returns which is also moving 78-82 degree water.



Even the Jacuzzi at the cabin in the mountains I used to rent wouldn't freeze over the winter and it's much colder up there than LA. All they did was run the Jacuzzi all winter.


I completely agree.


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I'm not being naive, I'm just stating the facts. There is no way his pipes would freeze living in LA. It gets no where near freezing here in S.Cali. Even if it does get that low, the water in the pipes would have to be standing still for it to freeze. His pipes will have constant water movement from the drains to the returns which is also moving 78-82 degree water.

Even the Jacuzzi at the cabin in the mountains I used to rent wouldn't freeze over the winter and it's much colder up there than LA. All they did was run the Jacuzzi all winter.
True enough but just think of the extra electric you are wasting when heat escapes.

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True enough but just think of the extra electric you are wasting when heat escapes.

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I don't think that short bit of exposed pipes running from the wall to the ground would make much of a difference. I think where insulation would play the biggest role would be the pipes that were buried and running along side his house.

I am not sure if the pipes being buried at the depth they are would take into account geothermal warming and cooling also.


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I don't think that short bit of exposed pipes running from the wall to the ground would make much of a difference. I think where insulation would play the biggest role would be the pipes that were buried and running along side his house.

I am not sure if the pipes being buried at the depth they are would take into account geothermal warming and cooling also.
Depends how cold it is, you'd be surprised how quickly heat would escape, don't see why you wouldn't insulate when it would cost next to nothing to do and could save money in the long run.

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Given the minimal costs vs investment, I would. Call it peace of mind if you want. All it takes is on crappy bad day, even if abnormal, like snow in the desert or Hawaii (which both have happened). Judging by the photos, this is a long term project and as such I prefer to err on the side of caution, perhaps thats being over cautious in your mind and thats fine again Im weighing the cost of the added protection. If my point is not taken by the OP, that is fine too. Im simply pointing out a consideration that may have been an oversight due to the typical climate there, meaning he probably already thought about the heat but maybe not the coldness. Less than 50 bucks vs the cost of livestock.... no brainer for me.

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675 gallon glass display / 1,100 + gallon system in LA





Starting to get the canopy ready, we are gonna have it connected to a motorized winch in the attic to have the height be adjustable. Still fussing with the details.

Also the cabinetry started coming together around the base and a side cabinet to add storage and hide the electronics and pipes.


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Man, what a great idea!!! Keeping the winch in mind for my next build!


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Today we finished the carpentry around the display tank!


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Cabinets look terrific! Seems that the winch doesn't have to work for too long... I only see a small amount of cable available. The pic is likely deceiving though. How much can the hood move up/down?


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Cabinets look terrific! Seems that the winch doesn't have to work for too long... I only see a small amount of cable available. The pic is likely deceiving though. How much can the hood move up/down?


Good observation, we are reworking the cables for that exact reason...can't wait until we figure it out and start seeing some lights on the tank.


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Good observation, we are reworking the cables for that exact reason...can't wait until we figure it out and start seeing some lights on the tank.


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Can't you just reduce the slack on the cables to be taut instead of giving it enough slack to form a triangle? I figure this would give you enough winch cable to lift the light higher.


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