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10/02/2017, 06:23 AM | #626 |
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Well, that was thorough!
Would have expected nothing less!
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I did some experimenting since I have that Precision Hydrometer for a brief time. This is overkill, but I like precision. -> Mixed up Salt Water to Exactly 1.0250 @ 25 deg C. -> Took Specs for future Water mixes (# Grams , Water Level Mark on mixing Bin) ---> Learned that it's pretty fine work. (Final Adjustments were at cup level for final perfection) -> Found that that Calibrating with 0 or 35ppt is still a bit off (when I measured 1.0250 Mix) -> Calibrated my Refractometer to 1.0250 (not 0 or 35) -> And made myself a Bottle of 1.0250 Calibration solution Even if I lose or break my Refractometer, I can mix up a pretty close bucket of 1.025 Topic Marin PRO Salt. Which should last me for 5 months (@ 2 5Gal WC's a week) Now onward. I'm working on ALK/CALC dosing next. Getting pretty close to understanding that too. |
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I now know how you feel. When I wake up each morning, I run downstairs to check on the SPS tank. Then I get dressed Things are look good. Very good (Everywhere). So Far! |
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10/02/2017, 02:35 PM | #629 |
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Good!
How is/was alk today?
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I'll give you all the details on ALK/Calcium. Don't want to give guesses.
I'll explain shortly. Been working hard, on analysis. Will confirm results tonight, since I want to understand things on a 24 hour period (and same time of measurements). Don't worry, I am being very VERY careful for ALK stability. At this point I am confident for next Water Change. |
10/02/2017, 05:49 PM | #631 |
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Another (Different Creature) Looks like Bristle worm (but a probing Tentacle)
Yeah, I stare (Intensely) at my tank while at my desk a lot Examing EVEYRTHING for changes, (either good or bad) So I notice these two tentacles coming out of a crevice in the Plating Monti. Picture is of one tentacle. The tentacles look like you typical Bristle worm, but there are two of them. Reaching around. Coming in and out. Looks more intelligent arm movements than a dumb bristle worm. (Bristle worm kind of crawl. This is an arm that touches around, poke and prods. Curls up, and retreats) My Kitchen tank has all kinds of critters, and never was a concern. I can to be safe (remove this loose rock) and dip it in Revive. It would take a lot of revive since rock is about 12" Maybe I should make up a Revive Bath Bucket, and not throw out the liquid. Heat when I need to treat. Should I be concerned? Last edited by Wally.B; 10/02/2017 at 05:56 PM. |
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Not a concern, necessarily. It looks like a mini serpent starfish.
Where there is one, there are usually more. They are harmless scavengers, generally. I have heard stories of people having massive populations of them which become a problem. But I’ve never experienced that first hand... personally, I’d leave it alone.
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can you explain why in this case it is better to try and mantain 6.5 and not try to raise it to 7.0? generally when we see a decrease we try to correct it, but in this case you have aproached a different strategy?? thanks
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I’m only trying to avoid the yo-yo ing of the alk.. Because it dropped to 6.5 from around 7.3, when the frags went in, my intention was to avoid any more swings.. correcting upwards would have forced the corals deal with the sudden drop and then an immediate increase. Holding at 6.5 allows the corals to simply deal with the current conditions instead of having to deal with the drop AND an increase.. Once Wally has stabilized at the new alk, kept it there for a few weeks, the intention is to gradually bring it back up over another few weeks.. If Wally’s tank had been at 8 and dropped to say 7.4, I would have said the same thing- try to hold 7.4.. Same if his tank had been at 6.5 and dropped to 6.. So, in the short term, the actually level isn’t too important (assuming it isn’t dangerously low or high), stability is important.. once things are stabilized and under control, then long term actions can be taken to correct to the desired alk. Now, it could be argued that doing an immediate alk increase, back to 7.3, where it was when the corals went in, is a better idea or just as good and maybe that is true. But without knowing exactly how much buffer to add, one could over dose by accident.. my method simply avoids any possible extra swings in alk.. just leans towards immediate stabilizing at current conditions
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10/03/2017, 06:25 AM | #635 |
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understood,
thanks Matt
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10/03/2017, 09:52 AM | #636 |
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ALK (Analysis / Dosing Two-PART ) Stability PLAN
So here is what I did, and where things stand. When ALK dropped from 7.3 to 6.5 (which I didn't expect), I was caught off guard. I didn't have my Spiritual Advisor Matt around at Midnight so I had to made a decision myself. Based on the following facts: 1) SPS Tank was running at ALK=7.7 Prior to Reset Water Change 2) SPS Tank was at ALK=7.3 After Water change 3) NEW 777 Frags came from ALK=7.7 system (I kept Frag Water) 4) ** If I dosed once a day there would be ALK swing anyway ** So I decided I would restore ALK=7.0 (Kind of half way between 6.5 & 7.3) also nice on Salifert test kit (perfect Drop) How I did my analysis and ALK Restore: -> I made assumption that I could make some errors, and accuracy of tests. -> I wanted to ensure that everything would be Gradual, and ensure I DID NOT Overshoot ALK over 7.0. -> My fact point was ALK dropped from 7.3 to 6.5 over 48 hours 1) Using the Reef Chemistry Calculator I got an estimate on how my ESV two Part I would need. 2) I chose 1/2 the amount needed 3) 1 chose 1/2 the 1/2 = 1/4 as a starting point 4a) Each Manual dose (Both Two Parts) was allow to run into the system for 4 hours and then I would test before next dose 4b) I watch PH since Probe (Swing was never more than 0.01) 5) Last dose that got me to ALK=7.0 was 1/8 dose (That I soaked overnight) FIRST ASSESEMENT: -> DAILY DOSING appeared to be 10 ml A/B a day VALIDATION (Yesterday): -> To be safe I decided to try 7ml, not 10ml as a First Dose Trial -> I broke the 7ml dose into 3 Parts (3ml, 2ml, 1ml, 1ml) -> I didn't start dosing till I watched ALK for 12 hours -> Observation was ALK doesn't drop till after Photo Period (ALK drop from 7.0 to 6.8) -> I then did each of 4 small Doses, 2 hours apart measuring ALK each time -> Alk reached the TARGET=7.0 -> This morning ALK was same 7.0 SUMMARY [ ALK TARGET=7.0 ] : -> I will continue the Manual alk dosing 7ml/day = ( 2ml, 2ml, 2ml=6ml/7ml) (Will add last 1ml if needed) -> Manual Dosing [Doser to Bottle, and Bottle to Tank] (Rinsing Bottle so all Solution is added as such small quatities) -> Once validated 100%, I will break full daily dose (Approx 7ml) into 1ml doses (every few hours) -> I can dose anytime, any amount with my DIY Doser - (OPTION A) --------> So may pick LOW PH time (0.5ml x12) (Midnight to 6am) - (OPTION B) --------> Just before Consumption Time (which appears to be When MAIN Lights (MH) come on 3pm-9pm) - (OPTION C) --------> Or can dose evenly 24 doses ( 0.25 ml once a hour) - (OPTION D) --------> Other -> SPS TANK (Parameters ) CURRENT ------------->> ALK=7.0 ------------->> CALC=435 ------------->> MAG=1450 -> FIRST (5%) WATER CHANGE IS TONIGHT ------> Tropic Marin Pro (New Bucket) ------------->> ALK=8.5 ------------->> CALC=440 ------------->> MAG=1350 Last edited by Wally.B; 10/03/2017 at 10:14 AM. |
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Love it. I’d suggest small regular doses as opposed to low ph times.. it’s really splitting hairs with the quantities we are talking about but I think small regular maintenance is always better..
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Good plan?
What is best OPTION (A,B,C,D) ? I updated the post, while you were reading. |
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I like option c best.
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This setup blows my mind!
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Oui Maître Matt
- (OPTION A) --------> So may pick LOW PH time (0.5ml x12) (Midnight to 6am) - (OPTION B) --------> Just before Consumption Time (which appears to be When MAIN Lights (MH) come on 3pm-9pm) - (OPTION C) --------> Or can dose evenly 24 doses ( 0.25 ml once a hour) - (OPTION D) --------> Other OPTION C was my preferred choice as well (Even Distribution) After thinking...... I may decide on 12 doses 0.5ml each (every 2 hour across 24 hours) ** FOR THE TOTAL AUTOMATED DOSING ** ----> Reason is if I'm doing a water change or maintenance (I have a 2 Hour window and not worry about Interference, since Doser+ does Water Changes Too) ----> And better accuracy since no worry about 1/2 drops. |
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How does the frag that got dewormed look?
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It looks a bit upset at the base where I scraped. But the ReVive Dip didn't hurt it since it rest of it look fine. I'm sure it's now safer with the Worm Gone. Hey, it's looks better than when I brought it home Aug 30th. It did survive all the Abuse over the last month. Not all were so strong. |
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Yup! It does look better.
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I'm Becoming Paranoid (Since all Corals doing Great) Another Frag Creature thing.
This spot has been there since I got it. Doesn't move. Not one of the dangerous things (don't want to mention the name). Egg of some sort? pluck it before it hatches? sorry for all the paranoia. I used to look at corals rotting slowly, now they are all getting better, so other things stand out. (I even see colors coming out. Never seen that before) |
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Looks fine to me.. I’d leave it alone..
Is it moving around? Can you get a clearer shot?
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Looks like a bare patch of skeleton with some algae growing there. Pretty harmless.
Give it a week or so. If it’s still there, you could gently brush it with a toothbrush or something.
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Same kind of color on some fresh part of the plug. So that's it, all my corals on in good shape. BTW. I did the first water 5% Auto W-change. I'll do a water test to see impact (I halted every two hour dosing to see Water tests after WC). I can resume right away (ensuring dosing amounts don't need adjustment). After that, I can breath a bit easier, and take more of a step back (from micro managing this Reset Phase). |
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