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Geez the last few pages are very saddening and frightening. I just ordered a rimless 300g, and logically, it just seems like a rimless tank would fall apart easier...
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08/09/2007, 06:07 AM
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Any updates? Surely you have the tank drained by now.
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08/09/2007, 06:07 AM
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08/09/2007, 06:20 AM
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I would not worry about it at all. There are so many factors involved with Shawns tank it is really difficult at best to point blame. You cannot look at a split seam in a picture and conclude it is the fault of the manufacturer. Being that this aquarium is in the basement and was such a pain to get into place I would do the repair myself, and take a good hard look at the stand. That is a 5000+pound tank on a 4x8 foot print, things settle and a little on one end will equate to a lot on the other.
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08/09/2007, 06:36 AM
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I agree 100%
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08/09/2007, 06:37 AM
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And I still say the 2x4's wedged in there by Shawn & the movers as well as using a level that was to small for the job would have had to been a contributing factor. IMO
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08/09/2007, 07:55 PM
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Thanks melev! I was actually serious in asking this because ive never had live rock before. so i appreciate you actually helping me with an answer.
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08/09/2007, 09:33 PM
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No problem, Kevin. The more we pass on information to each other, the more informed everyone will be and as a result more people can enjoy beautiful tanks.
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08/09/2007, 10:27 PM
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i agree! give me 10 years and soon after that i will be able to pass it on too..lol!
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08/10/2007, 06:00 AM
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Yes, even if it is controversial information 
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A few goof remarks were made about this picture, but really! Crisco and wax paper?! Perspiring minds and all are still wanting to know how these 'secrets of the trade' are utilized. If anyone knows, or is willing to divulge, I'd really like to do some more reading on how these items are used in the glass tank trade. All kidding aside 
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08/11/2007, 12:46 PM
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its always good to have a little fun before any big projects is constructed?
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I'm starting to feel the presence of a fish hook in that bait!! 
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08/17/2007, 10:32 AM
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Shawn, has anything further happend with this situation?
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08/17/2007, 10:40 AM
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What's wrong with combining a medical exam with tank building??
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08/17/2007, 10:54 AM
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Maybe that further defines the definition of 'brown algae' 
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08/17/2007, 11:15 AM
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As for the current status of the tank I still have the clamp on it holding as I have no had time to deal with it since I have been working and right now I am out of state for work...
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08/17/2007, 11:49 AM
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It would probably cheaper to fly Will and his helper to Columbus and have him fix it on site if that's possible.
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That's a great idea!
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08/17/2007, 02:09 PM
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Considering that the warranty is expired and he didn't have to do anything at all I'd say that sounds pretty reasonable to me.
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I certainly don't want to get into the middle of anything here, but I'd like to see an amicable solution to the problem...can you get it repaired by a local company and split the cost with Will.
I only mention splitting the cost because the cause of the failure hasn't been agreed upon, and the warranty has expired. You should be able to get it repaired for $200-500. The local guy should be motivated to get the free press as the hero. |
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08/17/2007, 03:41 PM
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Good point. This whole thing is bothering me. It doesn't make sense to me that this isn't resolved very quickly in the interest of good PR and customer support. If I were the tank builder, I would send a local 3rd party over to inspect it first thing and determine what the cause is, and what can be done to repair it, if anything.
For me, although I would love a glass tank, I just don't think it's worth the risk living in an earthquake prone area, without some serious thought (and money) given to absorbing shock waves. In any case, I would install any tank on a foam pad to help even out the pressure. The question is, how can we all learn from this, and how can he get it remedied in the LEAST painful way.
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My thoughts exactly. The size of the aquarium and its final location are dictated by the consumer. Being it is out of warrantee and in the basement I would cut it apart and fix it myself. I would also check that stand for signs of fatigue
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If it were my tank and I went through the expense and time of getting that tank out of the basement and paid for shipping to and from AO to have it fixed, I would not put it back into the basement. I would leave it on the first and plumb it to the basement. I just wouldn't want to take the chance on getting some thing with that kind of weight and size down a flight of stairs and maneuvering it around corners and such. Especially if it can't be done in a up-right position as they are designed to be. If you have the luxury of having a walk out basement then ok. But I just wouldn't chance it other wise. Also I would recommend building a box around the out side of the tank so that it takes the pressures put on it more so than the seams. I would not put 2x4's inside the tank(wrapped in plastic or not). They are putting pressure on the seams in those areas. They do not disperse the pressure evenly like water does.
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