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Old 03/04/2019, 12:20 PM   #4726
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I just got done with the basic frame for one of these, using kiln dried douglas fir. I went for 38x20x35H, for a 40 breeder tank. Only modification is an additional center piece in the bottom frame, and the green (screw strip) pieces span the entire height of the frame for added piece of mind. I will be skinning the bottom frame/platform, top of the frame, and adding two shelves to use the stand as a bookshelf too.

For anybody that is considering building one of these, the single biggest piece of advice that I can give, is use very good screws! The amount of pain/fuss it will save you cannot be stressed enough. I decided to go ahead and follow the advice I was given regarding using these GRK screws, and they are sold specifically with the recommendation that they do not require predrilling or countersinking. They work as advertised for sure- the only issue I had with them was due to me putting one right next to a knot that I hadn't noticed, and subsequently splitting the piece... I simply glued and clamped the piece and it was easily repaired, due to it being a very small split. I was using kiln-dried douglas fir- if you were to use a harder and/or denser wood you may still wish to predrill for added insurance against splitting, especially in the areas where you are drilling into the endgrain of the boards. No matter what you do, apply lots of glue between pieces, and clamp them well during assembly to ensure they are nice and tight during screw-up.


These are the screws I used-

https://www.homedepot.com/p/GRK-Fast...3101/203525228

I can honestly say that I will never cheap out on screws again, or bother with philips-head for such applications. These were an absolute breeze to use.

Here's the stand so far- it's getting a torch taken to it to darke and bring out the grain, as well as a boiled linseed oil finish. Going for a simple and rustic look.




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Old 03/09/2019, 12:21 PM   #4727
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this is the one, thank you for the inspiration. No down to the shop to begin.... Wish KresDFW's pics where still in the thread. they no longer show up. I would like to see your inspiration.


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Old 04/15/2019, 09:13 PM   #4728
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Green 2x4s

Great thread. Why don't the green 2x4s go all the way to the top too? Wouldn't that easily create more suppport?


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Old 04/15/2019, 10:33 PM   #4729
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They are only stiffeners. If you have to plane the top members, or the bottom members, having the green members extended all the way to the top means you have to plane across the ends of boards.

Don't do it. Trust me. I had someone build a stand for me and specifically pointed out these were not to extend to the top/bottom, but they thought they knew better. The top was not perfectly flat and I spent hours working away at the ends of those stiffeners because they were protruding up too far.


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Old 04/16/2019, 08:49 AM   #4730
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Update on mine-

no stain, just boiled linseed oil and polyurethane, after torching and sanding the wood.

Next step is some shelves (this is doing double duty as a bookshelf) and mounting the light hanging bars.


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Old 04/16/2019, 02:28 PM   #4731
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Here is a beautiful one...







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Old 06/07/2019, 12:08 PM   #4732
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A question. I plan to start a 36 x 18 x 18 tank for now, with the possibility to upgrade it to a 48 x 24 x 24 in a few years down the road so the stand will be sized for the larger tank.

I was planning on the building the top frame with cross members in the middle and also at the points that the 36" tank will sit, but the vertical braces would still only be at the corners. I am thinking that if I run LVLs , 2x6s or sistered 2x4s for the 48" length it should easily handle the weight of a 50g tank that is only 6" away from the outer edge of the vertical support but I thought I would get opinions.

The entire frame will be assembled with a dowelmax jig so strengthwise it shoudl already be much stronger than pocket screws or glued/screwed butt joints.


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Old 06/08/2019, 06:14 AM   #4733
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I would think that you *should* be fine if you go 2x6 for your upper rails, especially if you put some supports front to back between the rails that will put the rim of the 36x18 tank directly in the middle of each piece of wood. I've seen plenty of similar setups over the years that seem trouble free. Are you skinning the stand as well?


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Old 06/08/2019, 06:28 AM   #4734
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Also, finally put the shelf in mine, and loaded it with books



Going to try and find a narrow ~10 gallon or so container for a topoff reservoir that will go behind the books on the bottom soon, but otherwise I'm very happy with it.


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Old 06/08/2019, 08:16 AM   #4735
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I would think that you *should* be fine if you go 2x6 for your upper rails, especially if you put some supports front to back between the rails that will put the rim of the 36x18 tank directly in the middle of each piece of wood. I've seen plenty of similar setups over the years that seem trouble free. Are you skinning the stand as well?
Yes, ply sides and the front will be partially skinned. Considering some cross bracing in the corners front and back too.


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Old 06/21/2019, 09:52 AM   #4736
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Looking at building a stand for a 48x48x24 plywood tank that I am looking at building. I plan on framing the tank like walls of a house to prevent bowing. Would the the stand be essentially the same to build?


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