Bryopsis possible solution - Page 7

Art13 · 01/14/2017, 09:45 AM

After the constant struggle and two years of manual removal, many failed attempts to rid myself of this, i'm almost in disbelief, i thought i would have to shut my tank down.

peiloy3196 · 01/14/2017, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Art13

I believe the OP has been rid of it since November if i'm not mistaken with no side effects at this time.

Yes. I have been Bryopsis free since the start of November. All Sps, Lps and fish have shown no changes. Actually my SPS is once again thriving without the bryopsis. Water chemistry is stable.

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FullBoreReefer · 01/14/2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Art13

I believe the OP has been rid of it since November if i'm not mistaken with no side effects at this time.

Trust me I'm not disagreeing but many people won't take one case and consider it fool proof. I firmly believe this is a cure for this algae issue. But to consider it a scientifically proven cure from one case is not how it works.

I want it to be a proven case, and while it surely looks to be, time will tell as more and more people take the plunge to give it a try. With many many cases of proven success then I would consider it a proven cure.

We hear all to often on these forums of what works for one, never makes a dent to another. With that being said, for example, a dozen or so people confirm this removal method, with no ill effect over manny many months, not just a few, then yes, it would be considered proven.

I'm not trying to be "that guy", I'm just stating what it takes to be a proven case.

So with that being said, hopefully more people take the chance, document their scenarios, and provide the info needed to prove this method.

So, people, if your considering this method, please take before pics, pics during the treatment, and after pics. State what your tank specs are and what livestock you have, weather it be fish or corals, and be specific. The reason I say specific is because there could be a species out there that doesn't cope with this drug and is killed off. Then future hobbiest know to either remove them during treatment, or not to risk it at all.

In my honest opinion I think "we" are on to something!

Art13 · 01/14/2017, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FullBoreReefer

Trust me I'm not disagreeing but many people won't take one case and consider it fool proof. I firmly believe this is a cure for this algae issue. But to consider it a scientifically proven cure from one case is not how it works.

I want it to be a proven case, and while it surely looks to be, time will tell as more and more people take the plunge to give it a try. With many many cases of proven success then I would consider it a proven cure.

We hear all to often on these forums of what works for one, never makes a dent to another. With that being said, for example, a dozen or so people confirm this removal method, with no ill effect over manny many months, not just a few, then yes, it would be considered proven.

I'm not trying to be "that guy", I'm just stating what it takes to be a proven case.

So with that being said, hopefully more people take the chance, document their scenarios, and provide the info needed to prove this method.

So, people, if your considering this method, please take before pics, pics during the treatment, and after pics. State what your tank specs are and what livestock you have, weather it be fish or corals, and be specific. The reason I say specific is because there could be a species out there that doesn't cope with this drug and is killed off. Then future hobbiest know to either remove them during treatment, or not to risk it at all.

In my honest opinion I think "we" are on to something!

I agree, while there is only one long term case we see in this thread, I believe the 5 or so, give or take, people that have tried this method in this thread have a 100% success rate on killing bryopsis. Too soon to tell for long term effects, but to me that is a major sign. Tech m and H2O2 were touted as cures, but you can see from multiple threads if you were to pull the first 5 people who tried it, none were 100% effective.

FullBoreReefer · 01/14/2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Art13

I agree, while there is only one long term case we see in this thread, I believe the 5 or so, give or take, people that have tried this method in this thread have a 100% success rate on killing bryopsis. Too soon to tell for long term effects, but to me that is a major sign. Tech m and H2O2 were touted as cures, but you can see from multiple threads if you were to pull the first 5 people who tried it, none were 100% effective.

I completely agree.

I really really do hope this is "it", this could be a major game changer for this hobby as a whole.

People could even start QT'ing frags in this medication before even introducing into their DT's to help stop the transfer of this invasive algae.

IvanTheTerrible · 01/14/2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FullBoreReefer

I completely agree.

I really really do hope this is "it", this could be a major game changer for this hobby as a whole.

People could even start QT'ing frags in this medication before even introducing into their DT's to help stop the transfer of this invasive algae.

That's a great idea. I think I'll give that a try when it's time to start filling up my tank.

- Ivan

atraperegrinus · 01/14/2017, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FullBoreReefer

I completely agree.

I really really do hope this is "it", this could be a major game changer for this hobby as a whole.

People could even start QT'ing frags in this medication before even introducing into their DT's to help stop the transfer of this invasive algae.

That's actually not a bad idea, run it full time in a coral qt system.

I wonder how fast it would kill a small potion of bryopsis.

tkeracer619 · 01/14/2017, 03:56 PM

That is what I am doing. Seeing progress but I don't think 100% of my issue is bryopsis. The bryopsis is definitely suffering. So far so good. I have a macro progress shot from yesterday but am not home to post it. Will try for later.

Mrs. Music · 01/14/2017, 07:57 PM

I am on day 4 and I am definately seeing less algae on my rock in my experiment tank. I was not sure it was bryopsis but it has improved. I will post pictures soon.

tkeracer619 · 01/15/2017, 10:15 AM

Day 3, Bryopsis is in serious trouble. The entire structure is white and frail.

Day 4, I don't think our test subject is feeling well

Today is day 5, hoping to see more progress on the algae tufts that are on the frag plugs.

Since I don't think our test subject is going to be much use I will have to find something else to take a photo of but for an example this is the tank as a whole... taken on day 1.

ali1 · 01/15/2017, 10:34 AM

Love the case scenarios

Art13 · 01/15/2017, 03:10 PM

Day 8

Art13 · 01/15/2017, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

Day 3, Bryopsis is in serious trouble. The entire structure is white and frail.

Day 4, I don't think our test subject is feeling well

Today is day 5, hoping to see more progress on the algae tufts that are on the frag plugs.

Since I don't think our test subject is going to be much use I will have to find something else to take a photo of but for an example this is the tank as a whole... taken on day 1.

I think you should mail me that frag rack and everything on it

sculpin2 · 01/15/2017, 05:49 PM

I have also confirmed this. After 9 days in a pico system at 1 pill per 5 gallons water volume of Fish Flucon (15 gallon system), I'm down to almost no living Bryopsis. The only side effect I have seen is minor polyp bailout on an Acan which may or may not be related to the treatment.

ali1 · 01/15/2017, 07:17 PM

I assume it kills all other algae including chaeto, ATS, gha. Can someone confirm their refuge took a hit. Not a bad thing at all, it will give your fuge a clean start

Art13 · 01/15/2017, 09:19 PM

I didn't have anything in my five but I do have a bit of gha popping up after a few days of the treatment. Cyano isn't affected either.

Mrs. Music · 01/16/2017, 07:08 PM

Day 5IMG_2291.jpg

Mrs. Music · 01/16/2017, 07:12 PM

Day 1. A little bit of improvement. But my heater failed and the temp dropped to 65. Not really sure this was bryopsis, but the neomeris did not improve. Sigh.

FullBoreReefer · 01/16/2017, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Art13

Day 8

All I can say is WOW! Looks great!

Mrs. Music · 01/16/2017, 09:19 PM

well. now that I have looked at the picture a bit more I do see a bit of improvement.

bobbravo2 · 01/16/2017, 09:38 PM

Just ordered me some of this magical elixer!

Art13 · 01/17/2017, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FullBoreReefer

All I can say is WOW! Looks great!

It does, I was about a month away from pulling out the livestock from my tank and nuking it. I can sit back and enjoy my tank now, no more weekly cleanings and knocking everything off the rocks trying to get to the bryopsis. I'll be putting one other pic up today, day 10, but it's useless to do anymore after that. All the bryopsis is gone. I'll do some follow up posts down the road just to confirm if the tank is still algae free like the op did.

As for the OP, thank you for finding this, you saved my tank.

bobbravo2 · 01/17/2017, 07:03 AM

@op - yes thank you! Where did you find this happy accident of science? Seems so lucky

peiloy3196 · 01/17/2017, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbravo2

@op - yes thank you! Where did you find this happy accident of science? Seems so lucky

No problem guys. I was just so fed up of my Bryopsis problems I googled relentlessly reading anything I could on the topic. After getting nowhere I started translating other reef forums that were in another language and that is where it was being discussed, so I figured what do I have to lose at this point and gave it a shot. The thanks really should be for those guys. I just took a leap of faith. Lol.

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Scorpius · 01/17/2017, 08:41 AM

So you only dose it once?

01/14/2017, 03:56 PM	#158
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	That is what I am doing. Seeing progress but I don't think 100% of my issue is bryopsis. The bryopsis is definitely suffering. So far so good. I have a macro progress shot from yesterday but am not home to post it. Will try for later. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

01/15/2017, 10:15 AM	#160
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Day 3, Bryopsis is in serious trouble. The entire structure is white and frail. Day 4, I don't think our test subject is feeling well Today is day 5, hoping to see more progress on the algae tufts that are on the frag plugs. Since I don't think our test subject is going to be much use I will have to find something else to take a photo of but for an example this is the tank as a whole... taken on day 1. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k. Last edited by tkeracer619; 01/15/2017 at 11:13 AM.

01/15/2017, 10:34 AM	#161
ali1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 997	Love the case scenarios __________________ Originally Posted by Gogandantess "I'm totally frustrated by this disease. My display has been fallow for 2 months now. If ich happened to mysteriously appear again, I'm giving up and going back to African Cichilds."

01/15/2017, 07:17 PM	#165
ali1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 997	I assume it kills all other algae including chaeto, ATS, gha. Can someone confirm their refuge took a hit. Not a bad thing at all, it will give your fuge a clean start __________________ Originally Posted by Gogandantess "I'm totally frustrated by this disease. My display has been fallow for 2 months now. If ich happened to mysteriously appear again, I'm giving up and going back to African Cichilds."

01/16/2017, 09:38 PM	#171
bobbravo2 Reef Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 967	Just ordered me some of this magical elixer! __________________ Bob G. - O.R.C.A Member Current Tank Info: 65 Gallon \| Radion Pro G3 \| MP40 \| MP10 \| Apex \| Jaebo DC9000 \| KNOP Calcium Reactor \| Mated Picasso Clowns \| Mix of LPS, SPS and Softies

01/14/2017, 09:45 AM	#151
Art13 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,444	After the constant struggle and two years of manual removal, many failed attempts to rid myself of this, i'm almost in disbelief, i thought i would have to shut my tank down.

01/14/2017, 07:57 PM	#159
Mrs. Music Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sylvania, OH Posts: 636	I am on day 4 and I am definately seeing less algae on my rock in my experiment tank. I was not sure it was bryopsis but it has improved. I will post pictures soon.

01/15/2017, 03:10 PM	#162
Art13 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,444	Day 8

01/15/2017, 05:49 PM	#164
sculpin2 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 107	I have also confirmed this. After 9 days in a pico system at 1 pill per 5 gallons water volume of Fish Flucon (15 gallon system), I'm down to almost no living Bryopsis. The only side effect I have seen is minor polyp bailout on an Acan which may or may not be related to the treatment.

01/15/2017, 09:19 PM	#166
Art13 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,444	I didn't have anything in my five but I do have a bit of gha popping up after a few days of the treatment. Cyano isn't affected either.

01/16/2017, 07:08 PM	#167
Mrs. Music Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sylvania, OH Posts: 636	Day 5IMG_2291.jpg

01/16/2017, 09:19 PM	#170
Mrs. Music Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sylvania, OH Posts: 636	well. now that I have looked at the picture a bit more I do see a bit of improvement.

01/17/2017, 07:03 AM	#173
bobbravo2 Reef Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 967	@op - yes thank you! Where did you find this happy accident of science? Seems so lucky __________________ Bob G. - O.R.C.A Member Current Tank Info: 65 Gallon \| Radion Pro G3 \| MP40 \| MP10 \| Apex \| Jaebo DC9000 \| KNOP Calcium Reactor \| Mated Picasso Clowns \| Mix of LPS, SPS and Softies

01/17/2017, 08:41 AM	#175
Scorpius Stick Head Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 1,208	So you only dose it once? __________________ Current Tank 65gal DSA rimless. Vortech MP-10 x4 Vectra M1. Kessil A360we x3 4-24in T5's. BRS 2 part LPS/SPS mixed reef. Will do ______ for Acropora.