Neptune Systems FMM/FMK - Page 2

jason2459 · 02/23/2017, 11:25 AM

Nice, I have a 1.5" return and 3 1.5" drains.

Good point on the debris. I wonder what kind of maintenance these will require to keep them clean and reading the flow right.

jason2459 · 02/23/2017, 11:29 AM

Grrrrr..... I just noticed this part " British Standard Parallel Pipe (BSPP) "

Can they be submerged?

Desert Sea · 02/23/2017, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jason2459

Grrrrr..... I just noticed this part " British Standard Parallel Pipe (BSPP) "

Can they be submerged?

I didn't see where it said "British Standard Parallel Pipe" but I did see where it said "....adapter fittings for North American customers...."

Why would they not provide these with NPT or IPT threads? Neptune is an American company, why not start off with providing the sensors with the pipe threads common to North America first and then provide alternate thread types for other markets as the sensors are rolled out in those markets.

Makes me wonder if the COR pumps will come with an offshore thread type...

LobsterOfJustice · 02/23/2017, 12:06 PM

From what I understand the sensor itself has BSPP threads (standard worldwide except US) and if you order from BRS they will include unions which adapt the BSPP thread to PVC slip. Essentially makes the threading irrelevant. I assume the flow sensor itself is manufactured by an overseas company hence the BSPP threads.

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jason2459 · 02/23/2017, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LobsterOfJustice

From what I understand the sensor itself has BSPP threads (standard worldwide except US) and if you order from BRS they will include unions which adapt the BSPP thread to PVC slip. Essentially makes the threading irrelevant. I assume the flow sensor itself is manufactured by an overseas company hence the BSPP threads.

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Matters when you want to thread it into an existing threaded fitting and not want to add all that bulk.

I would also assume the US is their largest market.

Desert Sea · 02/23/2017, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LobsterOfJustice

From what I understand the sensor itself has BSPP threads (standard worldwide except US) and if you order from BRS they will include unions which adapt the BSPP thread to PVC slip. Essentially makes the threading irrelevant.

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Yes and no. Adapters are available from many sources. The thing that becomes an issue is that adapters take up space and having to use adapters is not as clean of an install as just threading these sensors into a manifold or onto an existing piece of equipment. These BSPP threads are common to Europe and China. My guess is that these sensors ended up with these threads because that is what the Chinese manufacturer is used to and not necessarily what is driven by the market. Would be interested to know if Neptune spec'd them this way and why.

ca1ore · 02/23/2017, 02:37 PM

FWIW, the ETM Vectra has the same BSPP 'problem'.

ca1ore · 02/23/2017, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jason2459

Nice, I have a 1.5" return and 3 1.5" drains.

Good point on the debris. I wonder what kind of maintenance these will require to keep them clean and reading the flow right.

Just one more good reason to put a screen on the drains

jason2459 · 02/23/2017, 02:43 PM

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Just one more good reason to put a screen on the drains

my little feather dusters say poopoo to stinking screens.

jason2459 · 02/23/2017, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

FWIW, the ETM Vectra has the same BSPP 'problem'.

It also has the problem of not being Apex controllable. Why I went with a Waveline Apex ready version. I would have totally went with an L1 if it was.

Desert Sea · 02/23/2017, 06:10 PM

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it also has the problem of not being apex controllable....

^ +1

jason2459 · 02/24/2017, 02:49 PM

And something more exciting as a nice and fun to have

Bottom left dKH from a recent video of their flow monitor.

Elricsfate · 02/27/2017, 09:11 AM

Interesting. I can't find DKH monitoring in any of the features lists for this module. How are they measuring it?

jason2459 · 02/27/2017, 09:20 AM

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Interesting. I can't find DKH monitoring in any of the features lists for this module. How are they measuring it?

It's not out yet and I'm not sure what it will plug into and my guess would be either something with the 1 link, it's own aquabuss, acc port.

ca1ore · 02/27/2017, 12:02 PM

They licensed that gizmo at MACNA with a name I cannot recall from the guy who's name I also cannot recall .... clear? At the show it was connected to a BNC pH port.

jason2459 · 02/27/2017, 12:03 PM

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They licensed that gizmo at MACNA with a name I cannot recall from the guy who's name I also cannot recall .... clear?

Jim Welsh but I don't think he had a name for it at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJttd_YzmbQ

ca1ore · 02/27/2017, 12:08 PM

That's good .... so I only forgot one thing

Elricsfate · 02/27/2017, 12:22 PM

I heard they bought it. But is it in actual production now? I don't recall seeing it the last time I looked at their product catalogue

jason2459 · 02/27/2017, 12:26 PM

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I heard they bought it. But is it in actual production now? I don't recall seeing it the last time I looked at their product catalogue

It's not out yet. Last year they said maybe this year but don't bet on it until it's actually out. I'm still waiting to see when the COR comes out.

ca1ore · 02/27/2017, 12:28 PM

Seems like 18 months from announcement to release ...

soulpatch · 02/27/2017, 02:35 PM

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I1/4" to monitor flow from my CaRx.

I didnt even think of this till you mentioned it. I was all about the solenoid, main return, and such but that would be a great backup to know the flow...

Darn now I might need to buy this but then I have to rejig my control cabinet to fit it...

jason2459 · 02/27/2017, 02:37 PM

Looks like its not good for drip flow monitoring. 3gph minimum required

soulpatch · 02/27/2017, 02:50 PM

that is unfortunate...

ca1ore · 02/27/2017, 04:21 PM

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I didnt even think of this till you mentioned it. I was all about the solenoid, main return, and such but that would be a great backup to know the flow...

Darn now I might need to buy this but then I have to rejig my control cabinet to fit it...

I actually cancelled the 1/4" sensor because it requires a minimum of 3 gph, which is FAR more than my CaRx spits out. Ordered a second 1" so I can monitor my siphon drain.

d2mini · 03/11/2017, 04:02 PM

I need just the BSPP adaptors.
Can anyone point me to a source to purchase?
Looking to go from a G 1-1/4 thread to 1-1/4" USA.

02/23/2017, 11:25 AM	#26
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Nice, I have a 1.5" return and 3 1.5" drains. Good point on the debris. I wonder what kind of maintenance these will require to keep them clean and reading the flow right. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

02/23/2017, 11:29 AM	#27
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Grrrrr..... I just noticed this part " British Standard Parallel Pipe (BSPP) " Can they be submerged? __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

02/23/2017, 12:06 PM	#29
LobsterOfJustice Recovering Detritophobe Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 7,443	Neptune Systems FMM/FMK From what I understand the sensor itself has BSPP threads (standard worldwide except US) and if you order from BRS they will include unions which adapt the BSPP thread to PVC slip. Essentially makes the threading irrelevant. I assume the flow sensor itself is manufactured by an overseas company hence the BSPP threads. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I remember when zoanthids were called things like "green" and "orange" and not "reverse gorilla nipple." Current Tank Info: 180g reef with all the bells and whistles

02/23/2017, 02:37 PM	#32
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	FWIW, the ETM Vectra has the same BSPP 'problem'. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

02/24/2017, 02:49 PM	#37
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	And something more exciting as a nice and fun to have Bottom left dKH from a recent video of their flow monitor. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

02/27/2017, 09:11 AM	#38
Elricsfate Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Fredericksburg, Va Posts: 482	Interesting. I can't find DKH monitoring in any of the features lists for this module. How are they measuring it?

02/27/2017, 12:02 PM	#40
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	They licensed that gizmo at MACNA with a name I cannot recall from the guy who's name I also cannot recall .... clear? At the show it was connected to a BNC pH port. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

02/27/2017, 12:08 PM	#42
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	That's good .... so I only forgot one thing __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

02/27/2017, 12:22 PM	#43
Elricsfate Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Fredericksburg, Va Posts: 482	I heard they bought it. But is it in actual production now? I don't recall seeing it the last time I looked at their product catalogue

02/27/2017, 12:28 PM	#45
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Seems like 18 months from announcement to release ... __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

02/27/2017, 02:37 PM	#47
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Looks like its not good for drip flow monitoring. 3gph minimum required __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

02/27/2017, 02:50 PM	#48
soulpatch Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 4,017	that is unfortunate... __________________ 150 SC tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550948 Some have bar tabs. I have a coral tab at my LFS. Life goals.

03/11/2017, 04:02 PM	#50
d2mini Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 10,344	I need just the BSPP adaptors. Can anyone point me to a source to purchase? Looking to go from a G 1-1/4 thread to 1-1/4" USA. __________________ -dennis Elos Diamond 120xl \| Elos Stand \| Radion G4 Pros \| GHL Profilux Controller \| LifeReef Skimmer \| LifeReef Sump Photos taken with a Nikon D750 or Leica M.